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UBERMUNSCHIST -> A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 9:23:30 AM)
Would a fetish fall into its own sexual classification? If that fetish became a sexual preference, would it become a sexual orientation?

CalifChick -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 9:27:10 AM)
Define "fetish" as how you see the word. A "fetish" is something (usually but not always, an object unrelated to traditional sex), that must be present for sexual arousal to take place. Since by definition, a fetish is a requirement, it is not a preference. Perhaps you could tell us of a specific kink or fetish you are referring to. Cali

RCdc -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 9:27:33 AM)
First you would have to define what you mean by orientation and what the fetish was. It would only occur within specific areas IMO - so it's not impossible - but the questions to narrow to answer correctly. the.dark.

UBERMUNSCHIST -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 9:31:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CalifChick Define "fetish" as how you see the word. A "fetish" is something (usually but not always, an object unrelated to traditional sex), that must be present for sexual arousal to take place. Since by definition, a fetish is a requirement, it is not a preference. Perhaps you could tell us of a specific kink or fetish you are referring to. Cali I'll use masochism as an example. [&:] If I can no longer "get off" without pain, what would that be?

CalifChick -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 9:38:07 AM)
My idea of a good time? Cali

ResidentSadist -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 9:42:07 AM)
When you speak of fetishes and their classifications, are you referring to the medical community or the BDSM community? Fetishes are paraphillias and there are 106 that I know of. However, only 8 are clinically recognized paraphillias by the DSM. Forgive the following cut & paste from my personal web site ---------------------------------------------------- 8 Clinical Paraphilias In my research I have noticed that there are only 8 officially recognized clinical paraphilias. 1. Exhibitionism: the recurrent urge or behavior to expose one's genitals to an unsuspecting person. 2. Fetishism: the use of non-sexual or nonliving objects or part of a person's body to gain sexual excitement. Partialism refers to fetishes specifically involving nonsexual parts of the body. 3. Frotteurism: the recurrent urges or behavior of touching or rubbing against a nonconsenting person. 4. Pedophilia: the sexual attraction to prepubescent or peripubescent children. 5. Sexual Masochism: the recurrent urge or behavior of wanting to be humiliated, beaten, bound, or otherwise made to suffer. 6. Sexual Sadism: the recurrent urge or behavior involving acts in which the pain or humiliation of the victim is sexually exciting. 7. Transvestic fetishism: a sexual attraction towards the clothing of the opposite gender. 8. Voyeurism: the recurrent urge or behavior to observe an unsuspecting person who is naked, disrobing or engaging in sexual activities, or may not be sexual in nature at all. ---------------------------------------------------- 106 Paraphilias 1. Abasiophilia: love of (or sexual attraction to) people who are lame or crippled and/or who use leg braces or other orthopaedic appliances 2. Acarophilia: sexual pleasure from being tickled 3. Acomophilia: sexual attraction to baldness (also hairless genitalia) 4. Acousticophilia: sexual arousal from certain sounds 5. Acrotomophilia: love of (or sexual attraction to) amputation or amputees 6. Adolescentilism: sexual pleasure from acting or dressing like an adolescent 7. Aelurophilia: a form of zoophilia—sexual attraction to cats 8. Agalmatophilia: sexual attraction to statues or mannequins or immobility 9. Algolagnia: sexual pleasure from pain 10. Amaurophilia: sexual arousal by a partner whom one is unable to see due to artificial means, such as being blindfolded or having sex in total darkness. (See: sensory deprivation) 11. Andromimetophilia: love of women dressed as men or have had a sex change; see also gynemimetophilia 12. Apodysophilia: desire to undress, see also nudism 13. Apotemnophilia: desire to have (or sexual arousal from having) a healthy appendage (limb, digit, or male genitals) amputated 14. Aquaphilia: arousal from water and/or in watery environments, including bathtubs or swimming pools 15. Aretifism: sexual attraction to people who are without footwear, in contrast to retifism 16. Asphyxiophilia: sexual attraction to asphyxia; also called breath control play (or being strangled); including autoerotic asphyxiation; see medical warnings 17. Autoabasiophilia: sexual attraction to oneself being lame or crippled 18. Autagonistophilia: sexual arousal from being observed or creating conditions for faciliating observation; see also exhibitionism 19. Autogynephilia: love of oneself as a woman (also see Blanchard, Bailey, and Lawrence theory for discussion on controversy) 20. Autonephioplia: (a.k.a diaper fetishism) sexual arousal from diapers 21. Autossassinophilia: sexual arousal from fantasizing about or staging one's own murder 22. Biastophilia: sexual pleasure from committing rape or being raped; see also raptophilia 23. Celebriphilia: pathological desire to have sex with a celebrity 24. Chrematistophilia: sexual arousal from paying for sex or being robbed by one’s sexual partner; see also harpaxophilia 25. Coprophilia: sexual attraction to (or pleasure from) feces 26. Crush fetish: sexual arousal from seeing small creatures being crushed by members of the opposite sex, or being crushed oneself 27. Dacryphilia: sexual pleasure in eliciting tears from others or oneself 28. Dendrophilia: sexual attraction to trees and other large plants, popularized by the movie Superstar with Molly Shannon 29. Dwarf or 'midget' fetishism: sexual attraction to little people 30. Emetophilia (a.k.a. vomerophilia): sexual attraction to vomit 31. Endytophilia: prefering to have sexual activity while fully clothed 32. Ephebophilia (a.k.a. hebephilia): sexual attraction towards adolescents 33. Eproctophilia: sexual attraction to flatulence 34. Erotophonophilia: sexual arousal from trying to commit murder 35. Exhibitionism: (a.k.a peodeiktophilia) sexual arousal through sexual behavior in view of third parties (also includes the recurrent urge or behavior to expose one's genitals to an unsuspecting person) 36. Faunoiphilia: sexual arousal from watching animals mate 37. Fecophile: sexual arousal from defacation or watching a partner defecate, paticularly on oneself. 38. Sexual fetishism: is the use of non-sexual or nonliving objects or part of a person's body to gain sexual excitement. Examples include: Balloon fetishism -- breast fetishism -- bike fetish -- foot fetishism (podophilia) -- fur fetishism -- leather fetishism -- lipstick fetishism -- medical fetishism -- panty fetishism -- robot fetishism -- rubber fetishism -- shoe fetishism -- smoking fetishism -- spandex fetishism -- dental braces fetishism -- transvestic fetishism (see below) 39. Formicophilia: sexual attraction to smaller animals, insects, etc. crawling on parts of the body 40. Forniphilia: sexual objectification in which a person's body is incorporated into a piece of furniture 41. Frotteurism: sexual arousal from the recurrent urge or behavior of touching or rubbing against a nonconsenting person 42. Galactophilia: (a.k.a lactophilia) sexual attraction to human milk or lactating women 43. Gerontophilia: sexual attraction towards the elderly 44. Gynemimetophilia: love of men dressed as women or have had a sex change; see also andromimetophilia 45. Gynophagia: sexual attraction toward eating woman 46. Haematophilia: sexual attraction involving blood (either on another person or the liquid itself; not to be confused with haemophilia, a genetic disorder of the blood) 47. Harpaxophilia: sexual arousal from being the victim of a robbery or burglary; see also chrematistophilia 48. Homeovestism: sexual attraction towards the clothing of one's own gender 49. Hybristophilia: sexual arousal to people who have committed crimes, in particular cruel or outrageous crimes 50. Hypephilia: sexual attraction to fabrics 51. Incestophilia: sexual attraction to one's own family 52. Infantilism: sexual pleasure from dressing, acting, or being treated as a baby 53. Katoptronophilia: sexual arousal from having sex in front of mirrors 54. Kleptophilia: sexual arousal from stealing things 55. Klismaphilia: sexual pleasure from enemas 56. Lust murder: sexual arousal through committing murder 57. Macrophilia: sexual attraction to larger people and large things (including larger body organs such as breasts and genitalia) 58. Maiesiophilia: sexual attraction to childbirth or pregnant women 59. Masochism: the recurrent urge or behavior of wanting to be humiliated, beaten, bound, or otherwise made to suffer 60. Mechaphilia: sexual attraction to machines, especially robots or androids 61. Microphilia: sexual attraction to smaller people and things of smaller size 62. Mysophilia: sexual attraction to soiled, dirty, foul or decaying material 63. Narratophilia: sexual arousal in the use of dirty or obscene words to a partner 64. Nasophilia: sexual attraction to the sight, touch of human noses 65. Necrophilia: sexual attraction to corpses 66. Necrozoophilia: (a.k.a necrobestiality) sexual attraction to the corpses or killings of animals 67. Nepiophilia: (a.k.a. infantophilia) sexual attraction to children three years old or younger 68. Olafactophilia: sexual stimulus with smells or odors 69. Parthenophilia: sexual attraction to virgins 70. Pecattiphilia: sexual arousal from sinning or guilt 71. Pediophilia: sexual attraction to dolls 72. Pedophilia: sexual attraction to prepubescent children (British spelling: paedophilia) 73. Phalloorchoalgolagnia: sexual arousal by the experiencing of painful stimuli being administered to the male genitals 74. Pictophilia: sexual attraction to pictorial pornography or erotic art 75. Plushophilia: sexual attraction to stuffed toys or people in animal costume, such as theme park characters 76. Pyrophilia: sexual arousal through watching, setting, hearing, talking or fantasizing about fire 77. Raptophilia: sexually attracted to the idea of being raped; see also biastophilia 78. Retifism: sexual arousal from shoes 79. Sadism: sexual arousal from giving pain 80. Saliromania: sexual arousal or satisfaction of soiling or damaging a partner’s clothing 81. Schediaphilia (a.k.a. toonophilia): love of (or sexual arousal from) cartoon characters or situations; see moe 82. Scoptophilia: sexual pleasure from watching other people have sex; not to be confused with voyeurism 83. Sitophilia: sexual arousal from food 84. Somnophilia: sexual arousal from sleeping or unconscious people 85. Spectrophilia: sexual attraction to ghosts 86. Stigmatophilia: sexual focus on a partner who is tatooed or scarred 87. Stygiophilia: sexual pleasure from the thought of going to hell 88. Symphorophilia: sexual attraction with stage-managing a disaster, such as a traffic accident 89. Telephone scatologia: being sexually aroused by making obscene telephone calls to strangers 90. Telephonicophilia: sexual arousal in explicit phone conversations 91. Teratophilia: sexual attraction to deformed or monstrous people 92. Toonophilia: (a.k.a. schediaphilia) sexual attraction to cartoons or anime characters 93. Transformation fetish: sexual arousal from depictions of transformations of people into objects or other beings 94. Transvestic fetishism: (a.k.a transvestitism) sexual attraction towards the clothing of the opposite gender 95. Trichophilia: sexual arousal from hair 96. Troilism: sharing a sexual partner with another person while looking on 97. Urolagnia: sexual attraction to urine 98. Vincilagnia: sexual arousal by bondage 99. Vomerophilia: (a.k.a. emetophilia) sexual attraction to the act of vomiting 100. Vorarephilia: sexual attraction to being eaten by, and/or eating, another person or creature 101. Voyeurism: sexual arousal through secretly watching others having sex (also includes the recurrent urge or behavior to observe an unsuspecting person who is naked, disrobing or engaging in sexual activities, see peeping tom) 102. Xenophilia: sexual attraction to foreigners (in science fiction, can also mean sexual attraction to aliens) 103. Xylophilia: sexual attraction to wood 104. Zelophilia: sexual arousal from jealousy 105. Zoophilia: emotional or sexual attraction to animals 106. Zoosadism: the sexual enjoyment of causing pain and suffering to animals ------------------------------------------------------------- Paraphilia List Declining *Perverts will become endangered species* There were previously more than 8 paraphilias because homosexuality was listed as a paraphilia in the old DSM-I and DSM-II (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual). We are currently on text revision DSM-!V-TR. Now the modern medical community is moving to completely abolish sadism and masochism as disease categories in the future of DSM-V-TR. Arguments are that the truly pathological forms of sadism and masochism are adequately covered by other diagnoses. The definition of various sexual practices as paraphilias has been met with opposition and the medical community is getting political pressure to remove sadism and masochism as paraphilias from the upcoming DSM-V-TR. Efforts by the BDSM lifestyle communities, the ReviseF65 project and the many coalitions for sexual freedom, claim discrimination against sadomasochism referring to the precedent of removing of homosexuality from the list of mental disorders in the current DSM. If they abolish sadism and masochism as paraphilias, that will bring the list of clinically recognized paraphilias down from 8 to 6 and set masochists and sadists apart from being official recognized as perverts. That's OK with me, I didn't want my sadism to be officially recognized, covered by medical insurance or cured. ------------------------------------------- Sources The ReviseF65 project: link Wikipedia: link Wikipedia: link Wikipedia: link American Psychological Association (APA): paraphilia. (n.d.). Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary. Retrieved April 28, 2007, from Dictionary.com: link DSM-IV-TR The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual published 2000, by the American Psychiatric Association AAPL, American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law link Medicine Net link Jahsonic: link -------------------------------- [edit: to fix numbering in cut & paste]

RCdc -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 9:43:51 AM)
If you enjoy recieving pain, that would make you a masochist. Giving makes you sadist. Both can be a fetish and orientations - just not a sexual one(for clarification). the.dark.

Prinsexx -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 9:44:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UBERMUNSCHIST I'll use masochism as an example. [&:] If I can no longer "get off" without pain, what would that be? I'd call it masochism. Are we going around in circles here?

DiurnalVampire -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 9:46:54 AM)
Sexual orientation has more to do w th whom your chose as partners, not what you do as actions. Your orientation is Gay, straight, bisexual, polysexual, so on so forth. If you are a masochist who cannot get off without pain, that is a need , but not an orientation. If you are a straight masochist, you will not get off if someone of the same gender is beating you. If you are a gay masochist, you wont get off if someone of the opposite gender is the giver of pain. My view, at least. DV

Prinsexx -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 9:51:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UBERMUNSCHIST Would a fetish fall into its own sexual classification? If that fetish became a sexual preference, would it become a sexual orientation? These are helpful for terminology: http://www.xeromag.com/fvbdglossary.html http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/dictionary/(Informed Consent has a 7 day waiting period I think now from sign-on).

UBERMUNSCHIST -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 9:55:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Prinsexx quote: ORIGINAL: UBERMUNSCHIST I'll use masochism as an example. [&:] If I can no longer "get off" without pain, what would that be? I'd call it masochism. Are we going around in circles here? Yeah, I'm a little dizzy! [sm=frown.gif] I think that ALGOLAGNIA is slightly different than Masochism because I don't think that masochist 'enjoy' the pain . If they did then it wouldn't be painful... but if it isn't painful then what is it? Does anyone know what I mean?!

faerytattoodgirl -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 10:05:52 AM)
yes...your gay if you wear womens panties [8\|]

UBERMUNSCHIST -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 10:09:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire Sexual orientation has more to do w th whom your chose as partners, not what you do as actions. Your orientation is Gay, straight, bisexual, polysexual, so on so forth. If you are a masochist who cannot get off without pain, that is a need , but not an orientation. If you are a straight masochist, you will not get off if someone of the same gender is beating you. If you are a gay masochist, you wont get off if someone of the opposite gender is the giver of pain. My view, at least. DV I guess my real question is, What is the need?

DiurnalVampire -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 10:09:16 AM)
Masochists dont necessarily enjoy the pain, they enjoy the sensations. Fox enjoys hurting for me, bcasue of the context it is in. He doesnt enjoy PAIN in general, he enjoys pain as part of everything else we do together, and of course there are al the chemicals that your body releases in repsonse to that pain which most masochists truly enjoy. You dont have to like the pain to be masochistic, you have to want the pain. Some want that pain for the aftereffects, but they stil want the pain, so they are still masochists. The need, then, would be the extra stimulation. Some people cannot get off without more stimulation that stright sexual activity gives them. Some need lots of foreplay to get there, others need to be hurt, some need to be blindfolded. Its al a matter of stimulation and how your body registers and reacts to it.

UBERMUNSCHIST -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 10:12:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire Masochists dont necessarily enjoy the pain, they enjoy the sensations. Fox enjoys hurting for me, bcasue of the context it is in. He doesnt enjoy PAIN in general, he enjoys pain as part of everything else we do together, and of course there are al the chemicals that your body releases in repsonse to that pain which most masochists truly enjoy. You dont have to like the pain to be masochistic, you have to want the pain. Some want that pain for the aftereffects, but they stil want the pain, so they are still masochists. I'm aware that masochism is the want for pain, and that algonia is the arousal from pain. What would be the *need* of it though?

MadRabbit -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 10:13:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire Sexual orientation has more to do w th whom your chose as partners. I have a strong aversion to hippies as partners, but can deal with them as friends [:D]

atursvcMaam -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 10:14:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UBERMUNSCHIST quote: ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire Sexual orientation has more to do w th whom your chose as partners, not what you do as actions. Your orientation is Gay, straight, bisexual, polysexual, so on so forth. If you are a masochist who cannot get off without pain, that is a need , but not an orientation. If you are a straight masochist, you will not get off if someone of the same gender is beating you. If you are a gay masochist, you wont get off if someone of the opposite gender is the giver of pain. My view, at least. DV I guess my real question is, What is the need? i need 10 aspirin, does that help?

DiurnalVampire -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 10:14:21 AM)
Read the edit I answered after I saw the comment

faerytattoodgirl -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 10:16:00 AM)
quote: What would be the need of it though? pain makes you feel alive. if you have ever had hot wax poured on you..that is an example of pain making you feel that you are alive. i have had sessions longer than a couple hours of wax poured. flogging is also another form that makes you feel alive especially after it is over.

UBERMUNSCHIST -> RE: A Sexual Orientation? (4/23/2008 10:17:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire Read the edit I answered after I saw the comment Great post, thank you all for clearing this up for Me! [:)]

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