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MojoRisin -> Legalities (10/13/2005 11:55:33 AM)
What subs have given their Doms/Masters legal power over them? Such as signing over bank accounts, power of attorney, things of that nature....

ownedjulia -> RE: Legalities (10/13/2005 12:00:51 PM)
Interesting question. i don't have a bank account any more, my money gets paid into Masters. I live with him, in his house, that is also in his name. i don't have any credit cards or anything else.

OscarHargraves -> RE: Legalities (10/13/2005 8:00:43 PM)
That doesn't sound like something I would even consider until I knew the Sub very well and had lived with her for awhile. Too many legal complications if the whole thing goes sour. That is going further than marriage and further than 'custody' in most cases. I would also suggest to a Sub that she be VERY careful of anyone who wants to do this until she knows that person very well. March carefully son, pitfalls abound!

Soulhuntre -> RE: Legalities (10/13/2005 10:00:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MojoRisin What subs have given their Doms/Masters legal power over them? Such as signing over bank accounts, power of attorney, things of that nature.... I don't know many that have "signed over" such things but I do knwo many that have done what amounts to much of the same stuff in a practical way. For instance while my girls never "signed over" bank account, they do deposit the money they make in accounts that are in my name. Same effect.

anopheles -> RE: Legalities (10/13/2005 10:25:15 PM)
Legal proceedings are definitely not to be taken lightly. I would have serious concerns about a Dominant that asked that particular type of commitment especially if it was early in the relationship. --Anopheles

SweetDommes -> RE: Legalities (10/13/2005 10:42:34 PM)
Interestingly enough, our new boy has no bank accounts, no credit cards (he has one debit card, but it isn't attached to a bank account ... it's weird), and when I told him I wanted him to start saving money, he handed it over. He doesn't see the point in me putting his name on one of my bank accounts (and no, I'm not being stupid about this ... the account that I'm adding him to is a savings only - no access to my checking account at that bank - and only has about $40 in it at the moment). The only reason he's going with me on Monday is because I'm making him. We want him to have something that is his, and right now, he has almost nothing except for his car, and even that he may have to fight over because his cousin is also on the title and they aren't talking any more. We don't want our boys to sign over everything to us - we share. They are our partners, as well as our submissives. I know that there are a lot of people out there who don't agree with the dynamics that we have, but they work for us. We don't want anyone that we care about to be left in a position of having nothing should something happen to the two of us.

Wolfie648 -> RE: Legalities (10/13/2005 11:57:13 PM)
quote: We don't want our boys to sign over everything to us - we share. They are our partners, as well as our submissives. I know that there are a lot of people out there who don't agree with the dynamics that we have, but they work for us. We don't want anyone that we care about to be left in a position of having nothing should something happen to the two of us. If it works for you that's all that's needed (barring the obvious of hurting someone against their will). On the other hand I would ask why it is he has only this for means of proof. No need to expose yourself to unpleasantries. This smacks of something, and personally I have alarm bells going off - I hope I am wrong. D (Owner of j)

SweetDommes -> RE: Legalities (10/14/2005 12:02:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wolfie648 quote: We don't want our boys to sign over everything to us - we share. They are our partners, as well as our submissives. I know that there are a lot of people out there who don't agree with the dynamics that we have, but they work for us. We don't want anyone that we care about to be left in a position of having nothing should something happen to the two of us. If it works for you that's all that's needed (barring the obvious of hurting someone against their will). On the other hand I would ask why it is he has only this for means of proof. No need to expose yourself to unpleasantries. This smacks of something, and personally I have alarm bells going off - I hope I am wrong. D (Owner of j) You are wrong. Who said that this was his only means of proof? This was just one example. And please keep in mind that this is me insisting on this - he doesn't see the need for it. If I will insist on this, so that he has something, what on earth makes you think that this is the only thing that I have insisted upon?

Wolfie648 -> RE: Legalities (10/14/2005 12:36:17 AM)
quote: You are wrong. Who said that this was his only means of proof? This was just one example. And please keep in mind that this is me insisting on this - he doesn't see the need for it. If I will insist on this, so that he has something, what on earth makes you think that this is the only thing that I have insisted upon? quote: Interestingly enough, our new boy has no bank accounts, no credit cards (he has one debit card, but it isn't attached to a bank account ... it's weird), I only have to go by what you tell me (you didn't say that you had other means). You said it's weird. Not me. You saying it's weird, means -to me -, correct or otherwise, that you have your own concerns. I'm wrong, fantastic. Sorry I suggested to be careful ;-) D (owner of j)

SweetDommes -> RE: Legalities (10/14/2005 12:52:32 AM)
It is weird ... but I was talking specifically about the way his debit card is set up - until he explained it to me, I didn't realize that companies still did debit cards without having a bank account connected to it. As for his other issues - those are taken care of, he just has never bothered to save money in the past. Now he doesn't have a choice because I'm not giving him one. I was also only talking about him - not my finances, not my girlfriend's, not our other boy's. As a family, we have enough - and we make sure that as individuals we all have at least something.

Phoenxx -> RE: Legalities (10/14/2005 12:55:25 AM)
Well being married.. I signed everything over to her LOL.. good thing it's all debt j/k Seriously, that is something that should take some time. I kow a few peole, both in the lifestyle and out of it who have been totally screwed by "sharing" bank accounts... Hey just watch the peoples' court and see what happens there.... ;-) Tony thats my 2 cents ....

Phoenixandnika -> RE: Legalities (10/14/2005 3:31:42 AM)
good morning, My Master and I consider everything we have "ours". We work as a unit to make sure our household runs smoothly. Right now I manage the money and bank account, simply because I tend to be more on balancing it and am more aware of the bills we have and when they are due. That is not an insult to him, some are simply better at things than their partners. Some dread dealing with these kinds of things. We do not do the credit card thing, so that isn't an issue. He does know that I have a DNR and in the future I do look to have him made the one who is in charge of the situation if I can not make those descisions for what ever reason. My Master has certain power over my childrens health care being provided if I am unavailable as well as the ability to deal with their schools and such. Nika{Phoenix}

krikket -> RE: Legalities (10/14/2005 5:50:02 AM)
For 20 of 26 years my ex and i shared bank accounts (and debt), both paychecks going into the same account, etc. i paid the bills for a while, then he decided to do it. After he "lost" his job, he took over the finances, since he was home and had the time (his reasoning), and after 20+ years of marriage i had no reason not to trust him, or so i thought. Eventually our checking account was closed and he got a new one -- closer to the house or something like that. i continued to give him both of my paychecks, and he paid the bills..well, sorta.. to make a long, boring story short(er), by the time he left to join his "slave" in TX, the account had been closed and i was up to my elbows in ~~debt collectors~~ alligators. i've thought about this a lot over the years since then, and still don't know what i'll do about my finances if i ever become involved with a Dom to the extent that money/finances are an issue. <sigh> i think i'll sign off before i completely depress myself..lol.. TGIF, y'all!!!!! jimini

ChereeAmoor -> RE: Legalities (10/14/2005 5:56:51 AM)
I am living a cash-free life. I am not currently working, have no credit cards, no vehicle of my own, and am exquisitely cared for.

hawk58 -> RE: Legalities (10/14/2005 8:05:36 AM)
We have a "house account". Monies gets put into a joint checking and savings account. Moneies gets paid out, as the hea of House determime's. Sometimes its as simple as a phone call stating "pay the phone bill, or do the shopping". He is ever aware of what gets spent and how it gets spent. I dont touch or spend any house money unless given permission. But joint accounts woked for us, so that i can takecare of bills and necesseties as needed. Just a matter of convience for us. Also, in the past, we had a 2nd girl, and her name was also added to the joint account. Before she left, her name was removed. -dove

NakedOnMyChain -> RE: Legalities (10/14/2005 1:35:00 PM)
Well, I haven't signed anything over, technically. I did close my account, but I was put on Master's when we moved in together. Later we were married, but pretty much everything is in both of our names.

darkinshadows -> RE: Legalities (10/14/2005 3:10:11 PM)
Yes And why would You wish to ask such? May I enquire as to what knowledge have You gained. Peace and Love

CaptCraig -> RE: Legalities (10/14/2005 7:08:37 PM)
Mojo, you have hit a nerve that only the brave will address. Each of us has a unique situation and yet others can learn from us. I have a slave. I own her and all she earns. There is no disagreement about that and there never will be. Slave is property and she has signed her life over to me. I, as a smarter than average Homo sapiens, married her. I hear you "purists" out there, saying, "What a dork!" My rational; a truly dedicated slave needs protection. If and when Master shuffles off his mortal coil, she deserves Master’s Estate for her total dedication and obedience. I would think that the powers that be would look upon someone listed as a slave on a will less than valid by all and sundry. Slave is secure and therefore can devote herself to Master with total abandon. I love it so!

perverseangelic -> RE: Legalities (10/14/2005 7:38:31 PM)
We're currently totally independant financially. He's on his parents tab still, so we don't want to join anything. When he's independant we plan to have a joint account where our checks go to cover bills and two sepereat, but accessable to both accounts for us for special fun stuff. As to power of attorney and all that, we don't see the point. I do plan on giving him some power in case for some reason I'm hospitalized for my mental illness. i trust his judgement and want someone looking out for me.

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