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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/5/2008 7:10:54 AM   
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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/5/2008 7:26:06 AM   
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oh man, go back and reread CD's previous post and you'll realise why your comment is so funny, TC

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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/5/2008 7:32:38 AM   
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Yup-you get stabbed in the back enough times, you get in the habit of looking over your shoulder for the next knife.


  You know...I was going to try and come up with something profound to add to this as I was reading along, but Leatherist sums it up short and sweet.
  Of course, it goes for both sexes. Anyone who hasn't lived life hidden away in a bubble has some scars from the past. That makes us cautious, but that's life. I don't know if I'd go as far as to say "paranoid," but definitely cautious. The time it takes to let down your guard and trust the person you're involved with is relative to the individuals. Both those that give their trust and those who earn the trust of another.
  My .02 cents.

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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/5/2008 7:51:22 AM   
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The past doesn't stop me at all. But it does force me to take my time-and time will out most issues you may have with other people. I guess patience and pain are sort of linked.

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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/5/2008 7:59:30 AM   
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Leatherist, isn't that just exercising common sense instead of being paranoid?

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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/5/2008 8:10:03 AM   
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<scrolls back to see CD`s post>
 
 
I do like the words *comon sense alot bettter than paranoid...Growing up in the late 60`s early 70`s I  *remember*....paraniod! <blinks>
 
I remember flying off to stay a few days with a lady...once we talked etc, and negotiated play...I remember thinking...* I dont KNOW this lady THAT well...what if I beat her and she calls the po po*
 
It kinda ruined some forms of play but taught me a HUGE lesson...
 
Leave the cane at home...
 
<mumbles>
 
Best KNOW who your beating...<grins>
 
 

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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/5/2008 8:38:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Geeeee, I can't imagine why men...dominant or submissive...might be just a bit paranoid.



Many of you know what I'm going through now. "Paranoid" isn't a big enough word for how I'm feeling...

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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/5/2008 8:40:07 AM   
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subtee let me get my hands on you and at lest one of us will be feeling better.

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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/5/2008 8:51:16 AM   
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If someone don't like that, too bad. I prefer to be alone most of the time anyways, so I guarantee it's no major loss for me. Then again, there's a reason I'm single, not dating anyone, and have no plans to ever get married.


I was the same way and  my oversense of mistrust but I also  sabotaged relationships since I was always expecting the worst from them, and  became just like you are now and did so for way too long .  Then one day I was listening to this song ...not just the song but the words  and I realized it is akay to take some chances and gamble but use common sense in doing  .. and I accepting that inorder to find a good relationship I might have to experience pain but if I use common sense I can limit it and it is noit necessarily a bad thing if I take lessons from the pain dealt to me....and that isolation  and loneliness is  also painful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaqQF4l_8Ks




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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/5/2008 9:04:49 AM   
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subtee let me get my hands on you and at lest one of us will be feeling better.


Aren't you the sweetest, most considerate...wait. Nevermind (~grumbles about "one of us"~).

Oh well, as long as you don't want to get your "Hanes" on me.

[Edited because the period goes outside the parenthesis. Duh.]

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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/5/2008 1:31:56 PM   
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 I am talking about single men with whom I have played. I have noticed that, even when I have exhibited trust in a play partner (been to their home alone, had them in MY home, told them my real name, disclosed some information about my emotional life, etc.) they still seem to be much more wary than their vanilla counterparts. Any ideas why this is, folks?
 
Lilith


Just a hunch, but it might be the fact that, as opposed to a vanilla woman's sexual arsenal of lacy panties, pheremone perfume and small talk, they're walking into a domme's sexual arsenal of Floggers and Crosses and Needles, Oh My!  Call me crazy, but a BDSM toy bag has a lot more opportunity to do actual harm than a frilly bra and a blowjob... unless, of course, the blower has braces, then all bets are off.

With the sweetest of dripping sarcasm,
Naked

P.S.-  I haven't read any of the replies yet, but I really couldn't resist.

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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/5/2008 3:24:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissMorrigan
RT, your post troubles and saddens me greatly.


It shouldn't; I'm a relatively happy person, actually.  I like to think I'm realistic about the shape of reality, but I also don't take it personally.  Things are just things.

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For instance, my partner's grandmother is in her 80s, she's a woman I admire and the reason being is that she never sees the bad in people. She's never been afraid of people, has always treated others with respect, is not only liked in our community but so well respected. Not once in her 80s years has she been abused/taken advantage of, has never been robbed, mugged or assaulted. Could that just be sheer luck? I really believe not.


This is definitely contrary to my opinion on the subject - I would suggest it is almost entirely luck!  Luck to have been born where she did, to have had the opportunities she had growing up in the UK, which is one of the safest nations on the planet, and to have simply not run into the very wrong person.  

Perhaps, of course, we are dealing with differing levels of human misconduct, but I have seen several situations where, had she run into the individuals there, she would most likely be dead and thrown in a ditch somewhere.

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She has lived in Brighton her entire life, she's 'out there' in the community every day and does a lot of work through the church, which means she also does a lot of work for the homeless. She has been married twice. She survived her first husband, they had a great marriage. It took her a long while to come to terms with his death and eventually she remarried. Her second husband also died, sadly. Again the marriage was great. I've never heard a foul word or bad comment leave her mouth and she would give a person her last penny if she felt they needed it more than she.

She's just a tiny old lady, yet the hoodies and local ruffians treat her with respect.

What does that say about human nature to you?


As I said in my post above, I don't believe that everyone is a "bad" person.  What it tells me is that she landed in a good spot, with a healthy environment to grow up in, and then managed to treat other people well and was lucky enough to both not run into the wrong person and to be in the UK.  There's no magic there; it's fairly easy to see.

I would also like to point out Brighton is pretty tame.  As a UK national, how do you think she'd fare in Iraq?

For every good story, there is one just as bad.  The world is not a 'nice' place in my view, and if you disagree, you are more then entitled to your opinion.  I've just seen enough in the way of truly vicious conduct that I'm not going to ever believe it; I think my sample size is large enough to be significant.

My ultimate point, regarding the OP, is that I just don't trust people often.  End of story.  I think a certain degree of 'paranoia', if you will, is justified; and, again, I don't classify based on gender, race, or what not.  Most people are a lot more unpleasant than you think, if they have the right opportunity or are in the right situation.

Maya,

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I was the same way and  my oversense of mistrust but I also  sabotaged relationships since I was always expecting the worst from them, and  became just like you are now and did so for way too long .  Then one day I was listening to this song ...not just the song but the words  and I realized it is akay to take some chances and gamble but use common sense in doing  .. and I accepting that inorder to find a good relationship I might have to experience pain but if I use common sense I can limit it and it is noit necessarily a bad thing if I take lessons from the pain dealt to me....and that isolation  and loneliness is  also painful


I would suggest that you cannot be like I am now if this is your story.

Read what I posted above; I am genuinely happy being alone.  It's not painful for me, and I actually enjoy it quite a bit more than being in any relationship I've had so far (perhaps this will be different in the future, but I don't try to predict the future - who knows?).  Likewise, I have a pretty high pain tolerance and tenacity in human relationships; I just fail to see the point in bothering with most people.  Perhaps this is because my standards for a relationship are brutally high and I am unwilling to compromise, and am thus happier doing without?  Perhaps this is because I'm just a wildly misanthropic loner?

I can tell you right now that you're totally off target here - if you think I want sympathy, want to change, or am unhappy, you are very seriously mistaken.

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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/5/2008 6:47:22 PM   
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I'd say it's because we're more likely to be targeted by a scam than women are.  Sorry ladies, yes you get inundated with creepy men, but the scam artists head our way.            


That and the possibility of sexual harrassment / r*pe accusations if the woman gets mad. 


Ayep.

Someone count off the last 10 times you've read in a news article about all the women who later recanted their story / accusation of rape, and were sent to prison for just 10% of the time a man would have (and has) gone to prison unjustly.

And don't tell me it doesn't happen.

It happened to me when I was 13.  I'd just broken up with a girl, had been with an adult the entire day, proveably (sp?) and verifiably, with multiple other witnesses...and yet I still had to take a lie detector test (which of course, frightened to death, I failed...twice).

Her "proof"?

She had multiple scratches on her arm, bleeding in several spots.

My defense?

Along with my adult supervision the entire time she claimed this event occurred, along with the other witnesses, was added to the fact that I'd been a nailbiter my entire life (I quit decades ago) and when I showed my nails to the cop, he walked me down the street, 7 doors down to her house, asked to see both her and her mother out in the driveway and he point blank asked her...."tell me sweetheart...did this boy nub you to death?"

And don't tell anyone "it's rare that this happens"...to the one falsely accused...the frequency that the male is falsely accused hardly seems rare at that time.

It seems even less rare when you're sitting in jail.

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RE: Are men too paranoid? - 5/9/2008 3:15:50 PM   
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Who said i was paranoid?

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