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-=Life in the 1500's=- - 5/14/2008 12:08:56 AM   
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Life in the 1500's:

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in
May and were still smelling pretty good by June. However, they were
starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the
b.o.

Baths equaled a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had
the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men,
then the women and finally the children.  Last of all the babies.  By
then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.
Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water."

Houses had thatched roofs.  Thick straw, piled high, with no wood
underneath.  It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the
pets...dogs, cats, and other small animals, mice, rats, bugs lived in
the roof.  When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals
would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying, "It's raining cats
and dogs."

There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed
a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could
really  mess up your nice clean bed.  So, they found if they made beds
with big posts and hung a sheet over the top, it addressed that
problem.  Hence those beautiful big 4 poster beds with canopies.

The floor was dirt.  Only the wealthy had something other than dirt,
hence the saying "dirt poor".  The wealthy had slate floors which would
get slippery in the winter when wet. So they spread thresh on the floor
to help keep their footing.  As the winter wore on they kept adding more
thresh until when you opened the door it would all start slipping
outside.  A piece of wood was placed at the entry way, hence a "thresh
hold".

They cooked in the kitchen in a big kettle that always hung over the
fire.  Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot.  They
mostly ate vegetables and didn't get much meat.  They would eat the stew
for dinner leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then
start over the next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had been
in there for a month. Hence the rhyme: peas porridge hot, peas porridge
cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old."

Sometimes they could obtain pork and would feel really special when that
happened. When company came over, they would bring out some bacon and
hang it to show it off.  It was a sign of wealth and that a man "could
really bring home the bacon."  They would cut off a little to share with
guests and would all sit around and "chew the fat."

Those with money had plates made of pewter.  Food with a high acid
content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food.  This happened
most often with tomatoes, so they stopped eating tomatoes. . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . .for 400 years!

Most people didn't have pewter plates, but had trenchers - a piece of
wood with the middle scooped out like a bowl.  Trencher were never
washed and a lot of times worms got into the wood.  After eating off
wormy trenchers, they would get "trench mouth."  (??????)

Bread was divided according to status.  Workers got the burnt bottom of
the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the
"upper crust".

Pewter mugs (containing lead!) were used to drink ale or whiskey.  The
combination would sometimes  knock them out for a couple of days.
Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare
them for burial.   They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple
of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait
and see if they would wake up.  Hence the custom of holding a "wake".
(????)

England is old and small and they started running out of places to bury
people.  So, they would dig up coffins and would take their bones to a
house and re-use the grave.  In reopening these coffins, one out of 25
coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized
they had been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a
string on their wrist and lead it through the coffin and up through the
ground and tie it to a bell.  Someone would have to sit out in the
graveyard all night to listen for the bell. Hence on the "graveyard
shift" they would know that someone was "saved by the bell" or he was a
"dead ringer


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RE: -=Life in the 1500's=- - 5/14/2008 5:02:52 AM   
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Edgar Allen Poe was terrified of being buried alive.  Hence, many of his most gut wrenching tales hinge on that very concept mentioned in your last paragraph.  Yes, he had breathing tubes and bells in his grave.

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RE: -=Life in the 1500's=- - 5/14/2008 5:03:11 AM   
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When I was in England I got to visit Shakespeare's original house.  Victorian England was very different than most of us would have expected.  It was common to have sex before you were married to make sure that the woman could get pregnant.  You only married if you knew that she was fertile.

Chamber pots were emptied directly onto the streets.  (Typically businesses were on the ground floor and living quarters were above for the less well to do.)  A man throwing his coat over a puddle was to save a woman from stepping into sewage, not mud puddles.

Queen Victoria was thought to be mad because she bathed four times a year.  Most people, after bathing, would have goose grease rubbed on their bodies and then they were sewn into undergarments that stayed on until the next bath. 

The nursery rhyme, Ring Around the Rosies, described the plague.  First spots appeared (the rosies), a pocket full of posies was that people put flowers in their pockets to hide the smell.  "A tissue, a tissue" was that people would start to sneeze and need to blow their noses, "We all fall down" - everyone that caught it expected to die.

Interestingly, the reason that Europeans tend to blow their nose and Orientals tend to spit in the streets is a cultural difference based on the fact that the plague didn't reach the Orient.  They feel it is disgusting to blow your nose or spit into a handkerchief and then put it in your pocket keeping the filth with you.  Most Westerners are repelled by someone hacking and spitting it into the street.  It all goes back to that very bad time hundreds of years ago.

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RE: -=Life in the 1500's=- - 5/14/2008 5:07:59 AM   
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Of course, Victoria also thought that men were animals.  (Not to far off!)  She put skirts on tables and piano legs so that men would not become overly aroused by the naked extremities of the furniture.  Now THAT my friends, is kinky.

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RE: -=Life in the 1500's=- - 5/14/2008 7:31:39 AM   
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Fortunately no one is that interested in our bedroom antics, morals or behaviors any more. Oh..Wait. They are. Dayum..Queen Victoria Survived!!!

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RE: -=Life in the 1500's=- - 5/14/2008 9:01:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chamberqueen

When I was in England I got to visit Shakespeare's original house.  Victorian England was very different than most of us would have expected.  It was common to have sex before you were married to make sure that the woman could get pregnant.  You only married if you knew that she was fertile.



Actually William Shakespeare was in Elizabethan England.  In the time of her father (Henry VIII) it was common for girls to marry once they began to mensturate or shortly their after.  Anne Bolyen's sister Mary was married at 12 and became Henry's lover not long after that.

Queen Victoria and Prince Albert had a varied and full sex life.  However the monarchs, and their courts before her were rather self-indulgent and there was little regard for those who lived out-of-court life generally.  Victoria became very family minded (she had 9+ pregnancies) and conscious of the needs of her people, the covering of table legs, etc was an over-reaction by the populace to the debauched days.

Prince Albert had the first publicly known 'Prince Albert'.

I'd have liked to live in Victorian England in a titled family.

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RE: -=Life in the 1500's=- - 5/15/2008 1:32:30 PM   
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quote:

Chamber pots were emptied directly onto the streets.


I read somewhere that this is why proper etiquette for a man and a woman walking down the street together is for the man to walk on the left. As the gentleman, it was his duty to take the hit for the lady.

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RE: -=Life in the 1500's=- - 5/15/2008 1:42:13 PM   
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Don’t know if it is true or not but...

During outbreaks of the plague sick people were often driven out of town. These poor souls would then try to find succor in another town only to be "greeted" by townspeople determined to keep them out. Afraid to touch the sick people the town's people would use ten foot long fence rails to push the unfortunates away. Of course, that was still too close for some people, hence the expression "I wouldn’t touch that with a ten foot pole."

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