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RE: Who are you? - 10/20/2005 1:43:25 PM

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Maybe I'm not reading what you said correctly but, I don't assume to be anything but true to myself. I'm not sure how you twisted what I said to the point you thought I think I'm better than anyone. We all have strength and weaknesses. I'm just more concerned about finding my place rather than trying to be like, or change someone else.

I am aware of what you said. I can read very well. I was merely making a point on what you happened to say. Also putting some knowledge about human nature behind it.
Most people are not evolved enough to allow things to bounce off of them without having to try to get the world to believe things the way they see them. It is refreshing to see a person who is stable enough in who they are that they do not care.

Thank you for clarifying your point. This is actually a new perspective I just accepted this year. It's helped me to really find mysef when I stopped worrying about others more than I worried about me.

To the rest of you sorry I took this thread off track.

Sincerely,
sub suzanne

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RE: Who are you? - 10/20/2005 1:48:38 PM

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Thank you for clarifying your point.

No problem, just ask in the fiture. I type at lightning speed. Usually never fix any typo's. Hate long stories..so sometimes I don't say enough for people to fully understand.

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RE: Who are you? - 10/20/2005 2:47:52 PM

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I'm a cartoon ya silly wabbit...(smiling)

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RE: Who are you? - 10/20/2005 4:41:59 PM

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And what cartoon be you?

Sufferin' Succotash!

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RE: Who are you? - 10/20/2005 5:37:41 PM

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M. Z-

< I woke up in a soho doorway, the policeman knew my name- he said 'you can go sleep at home tonight if you can get up and walk away'...>

(Sorry- now it's stuck in my head)

I'd like to think I am real, if for no other reason, when someone asks me about my dreams or fanatsys, it's hard to come up with something I haven't done...

I would hope that those that meet me find that I am pretty much the person I represent myself as- I suppose that's 'real', too. I hope, so, anyway- I have spent a lot of time working on myself, and I think I have mostly done a pretty good job of become the man I want to be. I try to think about what I do and who I am, and my standards are pretty firm for myself, but flexible for others.

When it comes to this stuff, I often think that around ten years ago it stopped being 'something I did' and began to become a part of 'who I am'. It is a fairly inate part of my character, and something that I would have trouble delinating in myself. Is it related to my sexuality that my suborndinates at work will line up for a tough project with me over taking an easy assignment with the other superiors? Does my ability to effectivly utilise personal assets to achieve my professional goals make me a more effective lover?

I think there IS such a thing as 'real'- I mean that there is a valid, if subjective, value or quality that we recognise as 'real' or perhaps 'true'.

But really, all that matters is that we stay warm in a cold, cold world...

Stay warm,
Lawrence

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RE: Who are you? - 10/20/2005 6:40:32 PM

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"I think there IS such a thing as 'real'- I mean that there is a valid, if subjective, value or quality that we recognise as 'real' or perhaps 'true'."

Very interesting and well said, thanks, Lawrence.

"I woke up in a soho doorway, the policeman knew my name- he said 'you can go sleep at home tonight if you can get up and walk away'...> "

Darn it! I like The Who, but now that song is stuck in my head. ...( help..save us all. Top men have ability to place catchy tunes in innocent minds.. oh pure torture) :)

best to all, fawne

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RE: Who are you? - 10/20/2005 6:46:20 PM

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but now that song is stuck in my head. ...( help..save us all. Top men have ability to place catchy tunes in innocent minds.. oh pure torture) :)

" ain't it just like the night-
to play tricks when you're trying to so quiet..."

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RE: Who are you? - 10/20/2005 8:30:04 PM

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I am the sum and total of what everyone else percieves me to be. I am good to some, harsh to others and unyielding to still others. I'm Dad, husband, lover, friend, brother-in-arms and compatriot. I'm a good neighbor, a poor horseman, a strong ally and a gentle man. What the world sees of me and what I see of myself are different in their sameness and polar in their differences. No one person knows me but without all of them I wouldn't exist as I am.

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RE: Who are you? - 10/21/2005 1:21:53 AM

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"We see this empty cage now corrode
Where her cape of the stage once had flowed
The fiddler, he now steps to the road
He writes ev'rything's been returned which was owed
On the back of the fish truck that loads
While my conscience explodes."

I am certainly not one of those who need to be prodded. In fact, if anything, I am the prod.
Winston Churchill

I am a part of all that I have seen.
Alfred Lord Tennyson

I am still learning.
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I don't do drugs. I am drugs.
Salvador Dali

I may live without air and water, but not without Him.
Mohandas Gandhi

yeah, what He said

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RE: Who are you? - 10/21/2005 1:37:02 AM

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People I Love and Respect:

People who have humanity,
People who have Honour,
People who have integrity,
People who have discipline,
People who have a sense of duty,
People who care!

People I can not Tolerate:

Mean minded people,
People who are bigoted,
People who pour abuse and derogatory comments on other peoples' works and have no creative ability themselves.
Craven cowards,
Abusers and attackers of: The aged, the infirm, the young, women, religions and priests and priestesses (in any form) of any religion.

De Oppresso Libra

Viva l'Mercinare! Viva l'Chevelare! Viva l'Mort!

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RE: Who are you? - 10/21/2005 1:56:22 AM

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whew, thanks for the disclaimer, this slave thought you were trying to consolidate the discussion boards into just one post!
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LOL, that pretty much sums it up for me, too. I once wrote a 304 page novel trying to explain myself. Not that anyone ever bought it...the words or the novel.

< Message edited by ExistentialSteel -- 10/21/2005 1:58:36 AM >

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RE: Who are you? - 10/21/2005 8:22:00 AM

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Reality and Truth are wayy too subjective for me to define for another person. Am I real because of this or that? Odd, I have never had my reality questioned before. My motivations, loves, and hates are uniquely mine, as with anyone lese.

What I really wanna know is why does the wind blow sideways, Grasshopper?

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RE: Who are you? - 10/21/2005 9:51:03 AM

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Being real, and being "for real" are two different things. All matter is "real". People who act dishonestly with other people for no other reason than because they are bored and have nothing better to do...are not for real. Thats my opinion on the matter. :)

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RE: Who are you? - 10/21/2005 10:19:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Abusers and attackers of: The aged, the infirm, the young, women, religions and priests and priestesses (in any form) of any religion.

I agree totally with that. Only would add animals too. I cannot stand animal abusers as well.

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RE: Who are you? - 10/21/2005 9:06:36 PM

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Whoah!! That MUST have been a real mouthul the first time you said it!
see my other posts here for the rest

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RE: Who are you? - 10/21/2005 11:07:42 PM

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oh!- How can I explain-
It's so hard to get on...

LIFE is my canvas-
Some of my paintings even I don't understand...

S. Dali

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RE: Who are you? - 10/22/2005 1:45:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: ZandD
Are you real because you've seen how "they" do it and know that because of their methods, they aren't real? Are you real because someone said you are? Are you more real because someone you like or love said you were a true (add title here)? Are you real because of all the books and websites that you have read?

I'm real because I strive to be absolutely real to myself. The first person I have to be honest with is the one in the mirror. As long as I am honest with them I can remain honest with everyone else.

The image in the mirror is never static, and neither is the reality...it's an ever-evolving and never-ending process.

As for BDSM - I see the Dom in my relationship as another mirror I must face naked each day.

Cin

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RE: Who are you? - 10/23/2005 9:22:19 PM

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what is real? that keyboard you are pounding on is real.
what is true? that board someone just cut is perfectly straight without one flaw in it and matches 100% to the measure. that's called...being-true.
if you are referring to the lifestyle??/ they ain't no such critter.
just coz MY Ms doesn't have sex with me just coz She does not have a romance with me......just coz we dont do no big huge s/m stuff........dont mean we aint true.
EVERYONE can BE true...in their OWN way.
what motivates me? a sink full of dirty dishes...a garbage can full of trash...things like this.
what do i love? "I" won't spell it THAT way...i use l u v.
in MY head l o v e infers romance.
and "I" luv a clean house.
what do i hate? politics religion sex race and lil green men.
what do i live with that i can't stand?
poverty, war, hunger, strife, social in justice, social assholes,...should i keep going?
what is hilarious?
3 stooges...sunday comics..,.saturday cartoons....and et cetera
what is in bad taste? see "what i live with"

secrets? THIS lil gray wolf has NO secrets from any living human on this planet. all ya gotta do is ask THEE correct question to get THEE correct answer.

what do i stand for? truth,..justice and freedom...power to the people...we shall overcome the administration....a gov't OF the people...FOR the people...BY the people........
and commonsense reasoning..........
who am i?

whoooooooooooooooooo

i am the lone wolf..........i do not NEED anyone FOR anything..........i am self efficient and live fine alone....i do not NEED neighbors and i would just-as-soon-as build a 10 foot wall around my property if i owned a place.
but you said MORE than mere surviving? aw shit. oh kay if'n i have to.
i need my vhs library. i need my rock n roll.
i need my soda and my lil cherry cigars.
i need to serve my Mistress to feel useful.

have i helped or hindered?

bye for now..

woofie...sniffing for a snack...hmm...i see apple pie in the kitchen...

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RE: Who are you? - 10/23/2005 10:59:19 PM

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You can of course be true to yourself and to your friends/family.

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RE: Who are you? - 10/24/2005 7:55:23 AM

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Who who, who who?

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