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orfunboi -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 6:09:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1 Doesn't that mean your behavior was learned? If what you had to endure made you what you are? I'm just saying... Where in his post, did he say, what he endured made him gay? Maybe you should go back and reread his post. I think you missed something.....

orfunboi -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 6:16:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zensee quote: ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1 Explain why most molestors were molested themselves by your randomiser gene. That is a completely irrational challenge. There is no relationship between sex crimes and a randomiser gene - none has been suggested in this thread. You are just making crap up and setting impossible proofs for others while ignoring any reasonable requests for you to substantiate your assertions. And flinging insults at those who call your bullshit doesn't count as a cogent argument. Z. Why is it, that everytime people start discussing homosexuals and sexual orientation, someone brings up molesters? Do they really believe one has anything to do with the other? Are people really that stupid?

kittinSol -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 6:25:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: orfunboi Why is it, that everytime people start discussing homosexuals and sexual orientation, someone brings up molesters? Do they really believe one has anything to do with the other? Are people really that stupid? Yes, they are.

orfunboi -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 6:28:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Isn't God a vegetarian black single-mother lesbian who works as a social worker? I would believe everything but the vegetarian part. Why would a veggie god make a steak taste soooooo good, if she didn't want us to eat it?

Emperor1956 -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 6:30:32 AM)
FR: quote: quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Isn't God a vegetarian black single-mother lesbian who works as a social worker? orfunboi: I would believe everything but the vegetarian part. Why would a veggie god make a steak taste soooooo good, if she didn't want us to eat it? Of course that would legitimize cannabalism, too. Hmmmmmmm. "If the Juju hadn't wanted us to eat people, she wouldn't have made us of meat!" -- Flanders and Swann

rulemylife -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 6:31:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1 Again, show me proof that there is a gay gene, and I'll believe it hands down and never argue the point again. But then there are a whole lot of other sexual deviations that need to be explained as well. And are you equating being left handed to being D/s? If quote: ORIGINAL: philosophy This is an old study from '95, and there has been much more research since. Specifically, I remember recent articles duplicating the results in mice. Unfortunately, I don't have the time or patience to locate this all for you, but if you really want to educate yourself just say "Google". quote: ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1 Was I born to enjoy torturing men? Is being a Domme in my biology? From what I've been told I was a sweet, loving, caring, kind little girl with white blonde hair and bright blue eyes who loved everything and everyone. There was no indication whatsoever that I would grow up to enjoy being sadistic sexually. Is D/s a kink? Perhaps. I can have and enjoy sex without it. But I enjoy sex much more when I'm in control of the situation. And I enjoy sex even more when my partner is pushed just a little past his comfort zone. Can I choose not to be Domme? Of course. Do I want to? Would I choose to be submissive? I'd rather die than be submissive. Is it in my DNA? Hardly. (my italics) ......i assume you are trying to suggest that all sexual behaviour is a pure choice? That type of position would support your assertion that homosexuality is a choice. However, it does go against virtually all research into the subject. i italicised the last phrase of your post. How do you know there is no DNA based component to enjoying D/S based sex? i'm left handed, it is entirely possible that exactly the same DNA twist that makes that true for me also has an influence in non-usual sex practices. The thesis presented in this book... http://www.righthandlefthand.com/ ......suggests it may be true. Now, if you're a geneticist or some other biological scientist who has a cogent and verifiable thesis suggestion as to why, say, homosexulity, does not have a DNA component i'd love to hear it. If you're just expressing an opinion then your arguments go into another pile, along with the rest of those who deny all verifiable research in order to continue holding onto a disproven thesis.

kittinSol -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 6:31:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: orfunboi quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Isn't God a vegetarian black single-mother lesbian who works as a social worker? I would believe everything but the vegetarian part. Why would a veggie god make a steak taste soooooo good, if she didn't want us to eat it? To test your resolve :-) .

orfunboi -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 6:39:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Emperor1956 FR: quote: quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Isn't God a vegetarian black single-mother lesbian who works as a social worker? orfunboi: I would believe everything but the vegetarian part. Why would a veggie god make a steak taste soooooo good, if she didn't want us to eat it? Of course that would legitimize cannabalism, too. Hmmmmmmm. "If the Juju hadn't wanted us to eat people, she wouldn't have made us of meat!" -- Flanders and Swann Why, does human meat taste the same as cow? I would think it would be very tough and stringy. Edited to add the comma

orfunboi -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 6:41:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: orfunboi quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Isn't God a vegetarian black single-mother lesbian who works as a social worker? I would believe everything but the vegetarian part. Why would a veggie god make a steak taste soooooo good, if she didn't want us to eat it? To test your resolve :-) . Oh great, another test blown to chit....oh well, maybe next life.

kittinSol -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 6:41:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: orfunboi Why does human meat taste the same as cow? How do you know that [sm=afraid.gif] ???

orfunboi -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 6:44:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: orfunboi Why does human meat taste the same as cow? How do you know that [sm=afraid.gif] ??? I don't, that's why I was asking Emperor about it. (then I added a comma to the question to make it sound more like what I was asking)

kittinSol -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 6:58:29 AM)
I read that human meat tastes like pig. Something to do with both species being omnivorous - gawd [X(] .

Emperor1956 -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 7:03:52 AM)
FR: quote: quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: orfunboi Why does human meat taste the same as cow? How do you know that [sm=afraid.gif] ??? I don't, that's why I was asking Emperor about it. Ahh the famous "what does human taste like?" I won't rehash the entire debate, which is writ large on the 'Net (but goes back 100s of years). The problem is, of course, that either you answer this question by saying "I don't really know..." or by saying "Yes, I have eaten people meat and it tastes like..." at which time usually your audience has either drawn a personal weapon and is pointing it at you or fled. or both. Suffice it to say that (1) Paul Theroux, the fine travel writer, stated that the reason spam is so ubiquitously popular in the Pacific islands is that it approximates the taste of human meat for the now excannibals that reside there. Granted, Theroux later said that his statement was a joke, and noted that he -- as a committed vegetarian -- found ALL meat eating pretty equally gross. (2) Accounts of cannibal rememberances say people taste like a softer, fattier, sweeter mild beef. Not rangy or stringy at all. Oddly enough, interviews with the Donner party or those people in the Andes that survived by dining on their fellow travellers don't usually focus on gastronomy. So, kittin, want to join Me for dinner while I'm in Boston WINK? E.

beargonewild -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 7:04:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: orfunboi Why is it, that everytime people start discussing homosexuals and sexual orientation, someone brings up molesters? Do they really believe one has anything to do with the other? Are people really that stupid? Probably the same reason why too many people think bisexuals are just confused or lesbians just need a good man to make them straight or gay men are just experimenting and will eventually desire a female. It's just stupid fallacies which should be dead and buried in this day and age. But I guess it just reflects how little humanity has actually evolved over the past millennium.

faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 8:48:43 AM)
kittinsol tastes like strawberries [8\|]

Aynne -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 8:52:19 AM)
mmmm Soylent Green, it's what's for dinner.[;)]

Griswold -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 5:46:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster What does this new information do to Intelligent Design? Is God gay too? (Only when he flies in to Oakland).

Leatherist -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/22/2008 5:50:02 PM)
I've also seen polyamorous people try to use the behavior of the bonobo chimpanzee as justification for thier "Natural and correct" lifestyles. The only problem with that argumant being, we aren't a bunch of fucking monkies. Though I am sure that can also be argued. [:D]

philosophy -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/23/2008 10:20:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Leatherist The only problem with that argumant being, we aren't a bunch of fucking monkies. ..perhaps a more accurate observation is that, essentially, we're just monkeys fucking.......

Zensee -> RE: Scientists claim homosexuality common in nature (5/23/2008 10:43:24 AM)
Indeed, Leatherist, we are not monkies. But then neither are chimpnazees. They, and we, are great apes. And, while we are correcting misconceptions, polyamory is no more "natural and correct" than the nuclear family. Z.

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