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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 7:49:47 PM   
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As already pointed out, Obama is a career politician, so holding him to an impossibly perfect standard of honesty and accuracy that none of the other candidates are held to must be motivated by something.

Is it because he's a Muslim terrorist?  Or because he insists on being sworn in on a Koran?  Is it because he came up through the Chicago political machine?  Or because his pastor was an unpatriotic draft dodging commie who cheered 9/11?

When you discard all those hoaxes, then out of whatever is left, then the one that fits best is a good place to start.

So just what is it about Obama that is sooooo obvious... and sooooo  'scary'?



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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 7:55:03 PM   
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He smiles too much.  He can't be trusted.  Wait ... he doesn't smile enough ..... His hair is too long ... no. its too short .....

Nope.  I can't figure out why he's so scary either. 

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 8:09:01 PM   
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My dislike for him has to do with his radical left-wing ideology. And it took him 6 weeks to figure out how he's going to respond to the Wright scandal. First it was that Wright was that "crazy uncle." Then it was "I was never there where he made those statements." Then it was, "I was there but I dont agree with it." Yet in Obama's book he clearly states Wright's speeches were the source of his inspiration.

Bill Clinton was right. This campaign is one gigantic fairy tale. And his wife is a victim of a conspiracy. It's a conspiracy by the radical left-wing to push the most radical and left wing person they can find. They not only want conservatives out of the government....they also want the moderates out. Have any of you ever gone to some of those blog sites and message boards? The stuff they say on those sites is damn near communist and that isn't an exaggeration!
There is some really strange forces behind Obama. The establishment is behind him, the big rich socialists like George Soros is behind him, and an awful lot of money is behind him. If there was ever a Manchurian candidate...Obama is it! I mean it doesnt make any sense. This guy is clearly not qualified to be president. He's not even been in the Senate for a full term. He has no foreign policy experience. No one really knows how he really feels about anything. Seriously...why would anyone vote for this person?

I think the Democrats have royally fucked up. A Hillary/Edwards ticket would have won an electoral sweep. Now we have to choose between pro-war McCain or a socialist/racist who hasnt a damn clue what he's doing. Great choice!

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 8:16:38 PM   
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Ohhhhhh, FFS.........

Is the national political objective to make us miss "W" when he's gone?



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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 8:18:51 PM   
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I don't have much of a problem with confusing Auschwitz with Buchenwald.  Although a few friends, who had family members there, were a bit troubled by his 'misstatement'.

But, now, I have to wonder who it was in Obama's family that was fighting there.  In his speech in 2002 opposing the Iraq war, he mentions his Grandfather and stories of Auschwitz.  Is this just another "gaffe"?  Were either his Great-Uncle or Grandfather really part of Buchenwald's liberating force?  Anyone have a link to the 'real facts'?

From http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech

"My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka."

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 8:24:43 PM   
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My dislike for him has to do with his radical left-wing ideology. And it took him 6 weeks to figure out how he's going to respond to the Wright scandal. First it was that Wright was that "crazy uncle." Then it was "I was never there where he made those statements." Then it was, "I was there but I dont agree with it." Yet in Obama's book he clearly states Wright's speeches were the source of his inspiration.

Bill Clinton was right. This campaign is one gigantic fairy tale. And his wife is a victim of a conspiracy. It's a conspiracy by the radical left-wing to push the most radical and left wing person they can find. They not only want conservatives out of the government....they also want the moderates out. Have any of you ever gone to some of those blog sites and message boards? The stuff they say on those sites is damn near communist and that isn't an exaggeration!
There is some really strange forces behind Obama. The establishment is behind him, the big rich socialists like George Soros is behind him, and an awful lot of money is behind him. If there was ever a Manchurian candidate...Obama is it! I mean it doesnt make any sense. This guy is clearly not qualified to be president. He's not even been in the Senate for a full term. He has no foreign policy experience. No one really knows how he really feels about anything. Seriously...why would anyone vote for this person?

I think the Democrats have royally fucked up. A Hillary/Edwards ticket would have won an electoral sweep. Now we have to choose between pro-war McCain or a socialist/racist who hasnt a damn clue what he's doing. Great choice!


A Democratic presidential candidate with a liberal ideology and a lot of campaign money who is supported by Soros, and left wing bloggers?  Well, I never...  

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 8:35:30 PM   
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Could the reason people fear Obama have anything to do with the fact that he is still running a cleaner campaign than Billary?  I would never consider voting for Billary but I might consider Obama overMcCain if he continues to run a decent campaign and doesn't have to resort to telling tales of a D-day style landing while serving as 1st lady. 

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 8:39:44 PM   
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I think that there is a large element of 'waiting for the other shoe to drop' in the serious doubters of Obama.

He wouldn't be where he is, if he were in fact too good to be true.

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 8:44:34 PM   
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He wouldn't be where he is, if he were in fact too good to be true.



That's exactly what the GOP said about Bush in 2000.

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 8:44:41 PM   
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Could the reason people fear Obama have anything to do with the fact that he is still running a cleaner campaign than Billary?  I would never consider voting for Billary but I might consider Obama overMcCain if he continues to run a decent campaign and doesn't have to resort to telling tales of a D-day style landing while serving as 1st lady. 



Actually, the truth is...his campaign has gotten 97% as ugly as all the fucking other campaigns...he's just letting Hillary set the table.

Because of Obama, the campaign has been decidedly smoother and with less vitriol...however...Obama's campaign has played this like a violin....he/they knew that Hillary would go for the jugular...and all they had to do was sit on the sidelines...wait for it to happen and then open up their own can of nuclear whoop ass and say "but she said it first!!!!!!!....look at her...she's so mean!!!!  She's a mean one, she is...look at her...so mean....she's really mean...you know she is...meany person that she is...all mean and such...."

Meany...

It's fucking waaaay old shit...ain't nothing changed but the shirts they wear.

And to me...even those look the same.

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 8:50:21 PM   
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I suspect my view will not be popular, but I think the reason why so many in America find Obama scary is very simple....he is black

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 8:50:34 PM   
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He wouldn't be where he is, if he were in fact too good to be true.



That's exactly what the GOP said about Bush in 2000.


You really don't get it do you? 

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 9:22:24 PM   
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None of this matters, they are all puppets.

You think if one of the REAL leaders of the world made a little fuckup as to which country, that he could call Bush and say, no it wasn't Syria it was Libya, and then all our jets would just slam on their brakes and come home ?

None of these numbnuts means shit, they will do what they are told.

Let me put it this way, I was in a room once, admonished to shut the fuck up, and they used those words. It was a meeting and I really did not belong there, but they were talking about what to do about a certain issue, something about building permits and I remember things, among them, a guy making a statement "We can't ask him to do that, he would get voted out". This was the kind of shit they were talking, and I did not participate, the site they were focussed on, I didn't even know where it was and had never seen it. But I was there by invitation. One of those thousand a plate dinner type of events.

No matter which one of these rubes gets in it will be business as usual. Yes there could be minor changes and who knows, but the business of the businessmen will go on. I know it.

They will all misspeak from time to time, but it doesn't matter, with the President, what matters is if he signs a bill or EO. He is instructed to do so by the real power. The people who put him there. And they can remove him, just like JFK, and he knows it.

The elections they hold in occupied countries are nothing but a show. When big money chooses the candidates we lose. When we choose the candidate we are fed faulty information and we still lose.

Democracy doesn't work and never has, that is why the framers of the Constitution made it a republic.

In a republic the leaders are chosen, and can be by democratic vote, but basic issues about the form of government and it's purpose ar not up for debate. In a democracy it is.

What if the townspeople hated your ass for some stupid reason ? In a true democracy they could vote to have you killed or expelled or whatever they wanted. That is true democracy. The founding Fathers of this country were well versed in the ways of the world, and that is exactly why they gave us a republic, if we can manage to keep it.

In a true republic, leaders think of themselves as servants, and are proud to accept RESPONSIBILITY for their actions.

Compare that to what we got. All of them have spent more time avoiding responsibility than taking that. That I can guarantee you. I have known many people, rich and small, short and tall. I have seen people beat all the odds, and yet I have also seen people lose it all, millions.

I have come to some conclusions, one is that if a rich guy tells you he just lost everything, don't offer any advice. It seems to be the prevalent function of their lifecycle to build and burst. And the beat goes on.That is how they are and it is no sense trying to change them.

Get a grip, it took their whole life to get this wat, how long do I get to change all that ? Fuck all that.

I just don't want to go much further but I understand how these people are. I personally know someone who is out on TWO MILLION DOLLARS bail. Cash.

The incompetent ones are sent into politics, I wish I was kidding here. It is no wonder they slip up now and then. After all they are trying to project their own image through a cast of fame and fortune that was bestowed upon them, not earned.

Not one of them could even begin to withstand a debate with me, alone. Not in a million years, but then to make it fair,l here is a guy wants to lead the country. Well I want HK and DA at the table. A few other who disagree with me, but everybody seems to have a diferent perspective.

Someone who is to lead this country should be able to handle that, wouldn't you think ?

Personally, professionally and publicly, I think that the most intelligent people in the world should be running it. But that is not what is happening.

And it doesn't matter a lick who gets elected, it will be the status quo.

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 9:28:50 PM   
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The people who put him there. And they can remove him, just like JFK, and he knows it.

Pray tell, who exactly are "they"?  Who are these shadowy people who exist above law and government?

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 9:39:25 PM   
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I suspect my view will not be popular...


How ignorant of you!

Survey says that's the number one popular reason to dislike Obama.

Obviously, no one admits to that reason...



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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 9:44:46 PM   
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The people who put him there. And they can remove him, just like JFK, and he knows it.

Pray tell, who exactly are "they"?  Who are these shadowy people who exist above law and government?

Give the devil a face and a name so he can be seen by all.



I actually knew a "They" once...they became a "them", and then one of them became a liberal...and I'll tell you whut....it was all downhill from there.

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/27/2008 10:02:14 PM   
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I can't see why ole Hussein isany more scary than ole John or ole Hillary. I find none of them to be particularly scary. Any more than I would find a puppet to be scary.
I admit there are a lot of creepy puppets but not scary ones really.

What I'm scared of are the puppeteers.

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/28/2008 3:14:05 AM   
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I suspect my view will not be popular, but I think the reason why so many in America find Obama scary is very simple....he is black


It's not popular, but it is correct, Arpig.

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/28/2008 4:02:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arpig

I suspect my view will not be popular, but I think the reason why so many in America find Obama scary is very simple....he is black


It's not popular, but it is correct, Arpig.
Perzackly. Notice my improved spelling? Boring night hahaha.

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RE: Obama misspeaks again - 5/28/2008 4:18:18 AM   
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