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PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 2:10:19 AM   
DominatrixDreams


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Status: offline 		Hi everyone! Hope your day is going well?

After having my profile suspended for the umpteenth time, I just HAD to comment on the automatic suspension and deletion methods employed by Collarme.

It will probably come as no surprise to many on here, that we Ladies (whether professional or not) get trillions of mail every day and most of it from the same totaly sad wankers, who seem to get a vicarious thrill from sending what they think are twoo sub messages to anyone who happens to have a domme nick
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These inadequates look at pictures, cannot be arsed to read profiles and will usually demand that you meet and top them when and how they choose ( usually including kinky sex) and all for free. When told politely or otherwise to go away and have sex somwhere else, they routinely report your profile just out of spite and malice. There are other reasons that people maliciously report profiles: It was brought to my attention that a well known scammer and fraudster had pasted my entire profile content into her own profile and was even using a version of my nick, but her own picture. I brought this to the attention of admin and her profile was deleted, but I then recieved an email informing me that 'they' would 'get me out' and that I would be sorry.  Next morning my profiile was suspended due to 'several complaints' ...Errrrrrrrrr coincidence or wot?  After a routine number of reports hey presto! you suddenly find your profile is suspended and you have to begin all over again. Surely it would have made sense to check my profile before suspension?.
My gripe is not that the profile is suspended, but that it is done so ROUTINELY and without even glancing at or checking the content. Also, the site does not tell you what part of your profile is supposed to contravene the rules! How the hell are we supposed to know what to alter? Surely this is unfair and stupid? It also gives the site a bad name as one where people disappear overnight and very frequently and no one has a clue why. No wonder that people complain about fly by nights and fakes!

Yes, I am a pro domme, but I NEVER ever tout for business, I never spam or bully and the only time I even mention my profession is when another asks me outright if they can have details. Even then, I respect the site and tell them to mail me via another link for details. Many many persons on here will testify that I have exchanged chat and mail with them over a long period and have never once hinted anything or mentioned playing for money.

To finish...Everyone genuine who has sent me friendly memos and or positive comments and wonderful compliments..if I disappear , it is not because I am a scammer or a 'fake' but because nasty, malicious and deeply sad little inadequates think that kinky sex and wanking online is BDSM.

Thankyou for listening and do have a nice day! X

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 2:13:03 AM   
MissMagnolia


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Status: offline 		I dunno. My profiles pretty full on on the whole "kinky sex and reading profiles" thing and it's never been reported. Well it might have been, but it's never been suspended.

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 2:44:04 AM   
summersprite


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Status: offline 		Guess it depends if you're asking for money..... Or not ;-)

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 2:45:45 AM   
DominatrixDreams


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Status: offline 		summersprite....... Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I'm not.

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 2:49:26 AM   
camille65


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Status: offline 		I bet this is why:"I am a professional domme and I do not play for free." That is the first line in your profile and though you say you don't ask for money, to me at least, it implies such.So that could be why your profile gets pulled?

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 2:55:23 AM   
MissMagnolia


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Status: offline 		OP, your profile says that you report subs who email you with the same letter more than once. They piss us all off, but deleting and blocking is all most of us do. Subs have the same rights here as anyone else to report what they want to report. What's sauce for the goose, etc................................................

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 2:57:38 AM   
DominatrixDreams


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Status: offline 		I do not ask for cash . Read the entire profile and not just one line. I am not here to tout for clients, BUT people need to know that I am also not interested in aquiring personal subs. I am not one of those ladies who wait until the sub asks to play before suddenly demanding money for my services, Being upfront and honest serves the purpose of 1/Stopping me getting 50 e mails a day 2/ Wasting everyone elses time.  I expected a lot of adverse comments from none pros. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and we are well used to negative and very hostile attacks, usually from those who know absolutely nil about us as individuals and how we operate.  The forum is here to exchange views and comments, so do carry on.

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 3:02:06 AM   
RumpusParable


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Status: offline 		In my experience, it depends on how you respond to the unpleasant emails received.  I had basically the same profile up for years with only minor tweaks here and there with no problems, viewed and discussed with moderators over that time.  But, within 2 weeks of the day I decided I'd let myself be rude in return to the worst of the emails I received that my profile was forced hidden. 

Assuming the OP is talking about forced locking/hiding of a profile as it's usually done and not speaking of what happens *after* a mod gets a look at the situation, it's not done by mods: the message received when the profile is shut down is very clear in stating that it was pulled by the automated system due to too many user reportings and will be checked by a human when they get a chance.  Once I started telling the rude and creepy clearly where to go, the automated system was quick to pull me.  Took a couple of months to have it checked by a mod to where I could edit it or unhide it again.  Again, the profile that was shut down by the reporting system was the same one I had asked mods about previously to make sure I was conforming to site guidelines and had been viewed socially a good number of times over the years with no issue.

Unless there was some amazingly coincidental timing and/or a new set of mods put into place at once, it comes down to the creeps don't like being told they're creeps.

OP, while it's frustrating, it's understandable.  This is a free site, it's a report-based system with a very few mods to deal with the two sides of the site...  Even in major paid sites such things can be problematic. 

If you got pulled by the automated system, wait it out and work with the mods to fix any problem if they feel one exists once they get to checking on it. 

If that already happened and/or the mods decided to outright delete you themselves, then I'd just suggest taking a look at what you were doing and saying and see if you accidentally did cross the line somewhere and avoid it in the future.  If you can't think of what it was you'd be better off emailing the mod who deleted you, or any of them, instead of complaining here on the boards.  They tend to be pretty reasonable and friendly if you just come asking how you can work things out or get clarification.

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 3:04:44 AM   
HalloweenWhite


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Status: offline 		I think She has a point though, they could at least tell her WHY her ENTIRE profile has been deleted, how hard is it to send her a memo saying "Please delete the first line of your profile as it breaks the rules of this site, thank, CollarMe".?.

Wouldn't that be the human thing to do?.

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 3:05:52 AM   
camille65


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Status: offline 		Yep I agree, if a profile is yanked a reason should be given.

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 3:10:15 AM   
DominatrixDreams


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Status: offline 		Rumpus!..Thankyou so much for your reply and for making SENSE in explaining what may have happened. You also offer suggestions and solutions as to how to make things right, which is worth ten million criticisms and snide comments. I will certainly mail the admin and try to get things sorted out and I have taken on board your comments as to how to try to avoid it happening again.
Again, thankyou! Thankyou! THANKYOU!

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 3:15:11 AM   
MissMagnolia


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Status: offline 		OP, you're insisting that you are not a ProDomme and you don't ask for money. Then you say "I expected a lot of adverse comments from none pros".  I am not a Pro, but I have many ProDomme friends on here and haven't seen any of them have their profile pulled. I have said many things in my journal and in the forums defending the rights of ProDommes and the subs who choose to see them.

Obviously you are doing something to piss people off so, as RumpusParable said, find out what it is and stop doing it, but don't snark about "the non pro's".

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 3:18:16 AM   
DominatrixDreams


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Status: offline 		Excuse me love..errrrrrrrr Have I missed something here? Where do I say I am not a pro domme? I make a POINT of saying that I am. If you are going to be negative, at least do get it right..ok?   ( sits back and waits for 'ah well youre asking for cash' even though Ive already said that I dont ask <<sighhhhhhs)

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 3:20:32 AM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		Greetings.
There could be many different reasons, but I am going to hazzard that it is because - although it is extremely well written - your profile does read as advertising and if you have read the TOS it clearly states that you cannot advertise your business unless you have had it pre-approved by CM.
 
You are advertising by suggesting what you are (Professional D) stating you do not want a personal s-type but go on to explain what you can provide.  Even if price is not mentioned outright the insinuation is there.

 
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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 3:23:52 AM   
MissMagnolia


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Status: offline 		A. Don't call me "love". B. Make up your mind. You don't ask for money. You aren't here to tout for clients. You're profile says that you do not want any personal subs. I don't think you know what the fuck you are doing, but I can fully see how YOU pissed off enough people to get  your profile pulled, and MORE than once. Noone else here has had their profile pulled. Not non pros and not pros. Hmmmmmmm see a pattern?


Grow a brain.

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 3:24:28 AM   
summersprite


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Status: offline 		Well apparently it is for free now.... that line about not playing for free seems to have disappeared.... so, have fun all you submissive boys....

And, maybe one day, if I'm ever a single sub, (which is unlikely since I have a wonderful Dom), but if I am.... what does it mean if I tout myself as a 'professional submissive'?

Just wondering.....

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 3:25:49 AM   
RCdc


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ORIGINAL: HalloweenWhite

I think She has a point though, they could at least tell her WHY her ENTIRE profile has been deleted, how hard is it to send her a memo saying "Please delete the first line of your profile as it breaks the rules of this site, thank, CollarMe".?.

Wouldn't that be the human thing to do?.


When you sign up, you should hopefully read the TOS. I know, I know - not many people really do.  However, if you did you would see that you are signing up to agree that CM can remove whatever they deem inappropriate or not what they want.  To me that say they do not have to tell you because you signed that away.
 
the.dark.

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 3:27:02 AM   
DominatrixDreams


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Status: offline 		I'm sure you're right love.

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 3:28:04 AM   
camille65


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Status: offline 		Dropping that line may make all the difference in being able to keep the profile alive and well.OP, hopefully that was the problem but if not just contact CM and ask.  No one was being snarky, you asked a question and got replies until you were the one that got huffy. Seriously. You ask why your profile is being deleted and when folks say its because of the money bit, you get angry and defensive.

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RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? - 6/3/2008 3:30:42 AM   
DominatrixDreams


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Status: offline 		Yes..thats right. I changed the line in response to the messages being posted on here. I am open to all advice and criticism belive it or not and am willing to carry out suggestions on how to avoid future problems. Is that something I shouldnt be doing then?

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ORIGINAL: summersprite

Well apparently it is for free now.... that line about not playing for free seems to have disappeared.... so, have fun all you submissive boys....

And, maybe one day, if I'm ever a single sub, (which is unlikely since I have a wonderful Dom), but if I am.... what does it mean if I tout myself as a 'professional submissive'?

Just wondering.....

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