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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 12:24:10 PM   
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I've seen Thomas the tank engine a couple of times.. that show just CREEPS me OUT!! Maybe it's from having read the Dark Tower books.....


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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 12:41:19 PM   
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LOL got pics of BUtterhead all mud-covered?

I've seen Thomas the tank engine a couple of times.. that show just CREEPS me OUT!! Maybe it's from having read the Dark Tower books.....



No I do not have a pic of that.  I will make a mental note to get one, because that is a fantastic idea.

Thomas the train is creepy I think because of their faces on the trains.  I loathe the show because I think that they are really mean to the trains, and I don't like that.  I just do not think that it is right.  It is cool that George Carlin did the readings for them, but. . . the stories bother  me. 

Just do me a favor and NEVER get my dad started on the whole "Spongebob" thing.  Oy Vey!  Every Christmas I have heard about it.  For some reason I am thinking that I will again this year.  LOL 

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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 12:50:11 PM   
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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 1:14:22 PM   
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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 1:22:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I do not get SpongeBob either.  I have seen a couple shows.  But my dad's big issue with it was over my cousin.  Apparently she won't let her kids see ANY cartoons.  None.  And then they were over, and all the grandkids and cousins and such were there, and they were watching some Spongebob at some point.  My father was outraged that her kids had never seen it.  And there were some other issues involved.  He still gets on a roll about the whole thing.  I just say, "Okay dad."  No, Butterhead has never seen Spongebob either, but that is because she watches toddler shows and sometimes the Food Network with me.  Most of the time she completely ignores it and plays with her farm, her kitchen, her tools, or gets into everything. 

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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 1:41:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Are your cousin's kids in a Waldorf School? Because that's part of their curriculum. They believe that watching someone else's dreams stifle a kid's creativity. You have to promise never to take them to a Disney film. Of course they also believe kids should not be taught to read till third grade, and if you put a kid who does read into the school, they discourage them from reading.

Mine went for 8th grade only and it was a warm, supportive place but academically poor.

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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 1:46:50 PM   
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Are your cousin's kids in a Waldorf School? Because that's part of their curriculum. They believe that watching someone else's dreams stifle a kid's creativity. You have to promise never to take them to a Disney film. Of course they also believe kids should not be taught to read till third grade, and if you put a kid who does read into the school, they discourage them from reading.

Mine went for 8th grade only and it was a warm, supportive place but academically poor.


No, she home schools them.  There have been several issues that have driven my parents nuts about what goes on. 

Hmm. . .stifling creativity by watching other peoples dreams. . . there is an Orson Scott Card short story like that, you might check it out. . . "Unaccompainied Sonata."

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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 1:48:58 PM   
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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 1:58:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		We have some sort of primates on.  Some sort of nature show. 

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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 1:59:25 PM   
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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 2:00:21 PM   
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Your hubbies family slideshow perhaps?


That could very well be, Ron.  I will have to check.

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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 2:18:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		If it's one of his horror stories, I'll skip it thanks. But he's great author and I'll have to look for that.

If this is because she's super religious and the stories talk about witchcraft, I have nothing good to say.

The Man's sister just retired from being a reading teacher. She's been going on and on for years about the evils of Harry Potter because they're evil, in her superreligious viewpoing any witch is by definition evil. And how a reading teacher can promote censorism I will never understand.

I home schooled seventh grade and it's so easy. Two hours in the morning daily equals what they learn in a week at public school. But I couldn't do high school. And I'm a proponent of public schools, especially in the elementary grades as the teach multiculturism just by being a mixed group all of whom play together at recess and go to each other's birthday parties.

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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 2:47:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		He classifies it as a "Fable-Fantasy" in his short fiction compendium, Maps in a Mirror.  Unfortunatly it is not one that he has for free on his Hatrack website.  In his afterward he does say that he considers it one of his best.  It was originally published in Omni in March, 1979, if that helps your search any. 

We have discussed home schooling extensively, as I am not all that fond of the public school system.  I am not worried about witchcraft in the Harry Potter stories (although I do think that parents need to be careful about the age children read each of the stories, the later ones are pretty dark) and I am pretty sure that it is not religion behind the reason my cousin home schools.  My personal thoughts on her reasons are not very kind. 

I can understand a reading teacher guiding children to appropriate books, but yes, I think that censorship is very strange.  Sure, there may be some extra work needed to explain concepts and such, but I  do not think that avoiding issues actually helps any. 

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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 3:07:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I read the synopsis on wikipedia. It's interesting that he assumes someone with an innate musical gift, given access to instruments would not devise a musical system that pleased him. I'd assume he would find himself drawn to certain sounds over others, either formal musical systems such as classical, or more changing ones that are less rigid like jazz.

Because people did invent these systems once. Somebody came up with a sound system that really got to him and it became opera, or rhythmic drumming, or the blues. Personally I'm about ready to believe that Robert Johnson did get it from the devil. Son House was discovered in his 80's as a retired janitor in Buffalo, NY and recorded an album. Some music and a lot of talking. He had played with Johnson a few months before he reappeared playing incredible music and had at that time no real knowledge of the guitar nor any signs of experimenting with a new sound.

Now Son House obviously was biased against Johnson  because of his fame but even with that accepted, there should have been negative comments about his music style, not a total absence of it.

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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 3:34:12 PM   
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I read the synopsis on wikipedia. It's interesting that he assumes someone with an innate musical gift, given access to instruments would not devise a musical system that pleased him. I'd assume he would find himself drawn to certain sounds over others, either formal musical systems such as classical, or more changing ones that are less rigid like jazz.


(Since you find out in the first two paragraphs or so. . .) the main character is not allowed to listen to anyone else's music. 


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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 4:24:11 PM   
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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 6:12:32 PM   
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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 6:16:27 PM   
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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 6:55:13 PM   
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I read the synopsis on wikipedia. It's interesting that he assumes someone with an innate musical gift, given access to instruments would not devise a musical system that pleased him. I'd assume he would find himself drawn to certain sounds over others, either formal musical systems such as classical, or more changing ones that are less rigid like jazz.


(Since you find out in the first two paragraphs or so. . .) the main character is not allowed to listen to anyone else's music. 



Yes, they mentioned that in the synopsis. But if you played a guitar by yourself, wouldn't you find that you preferred fast licks over dreamy stuff? Or vice versa? Wouldn't you in essence invent your own musical style over time? I can't imagine someone discovering ten different styles and not preferring one over another. Like kids with fingerpaints, they are drawn to different colors and touches. My son always liked making little fingerprints of color, my daughter long messy sweeps. They experimented and settled on what they preferred.

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RE: The Holly and Potty Show - 9/12/2009 10:17:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ummm. . . I don't think that was the point of the story.  I just thought that you might find it interesting. 

Anyway. . . I just got back in from going out.  I went to a "dueling pianos" Barrel House.  It was interesting.  I would take someone there.  It seemed somewhat 'carnivalesque.'   I am not quite sure how to explain that without some shared experiences in what I mean.  For instance, I explained it to the other half. . . but in that case I was able to draw on things and events that we have been to togeather. 

I hope that everyone has a wonderful Sunday! 



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