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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/5/2008 7:51:30 AM   
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I read somewhere that sometimes people who crave salt may have a calcium deficiency.



Interesting.  I crave salt on french fries.  Other than that...I don't even cook with it.  We get enough from packaged foods as it is to kill us.  Let alone adding more to our food.


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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/5/2008 8:21:03 AM   
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HK, yes i love peppers and spicy stuff, although i'm finding the older i get the less my tummy likes them. 

you make a good point angelika, probably easier to do it that way, and with the products that several posters have suggested.

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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/5/2008 10:35:33 AM   
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HK, yes i love peppers and spicy stuff, although i'm finding the older i get the less my tummy likes them. 

you make a good point angelika, probably easier to do it that way, and with the products that several posters have suggested.
I laid off of chilies for the most part for a few years after having owned a "Southwestern" restaurant and my tolerance went waaaaaaay down. I've never had chilies bother my tummy, and I suspect it's not the chilies but the fatty foods that one finds on the #7 combo plates in Alpo-Mex restaurants. I put the Thai chili & garlic sauce on all kinds of stuff now, and avoid salt myself.

I've eaten past the burn twice. Once at the restaurant, where I and a server made up all kinds of salsas on a slow night. Made one that takes you up immeduiately, then comes in waves for about 20 minutes with a smoky Pasilla de Oaxaco bass note. Other time was in mexico City, at a Yucatecan restaurant with some habanero salsa. Intense endorphin highs, like being on valium and dilaudid at the same time. 

After you have simmered the kraut, drain it and then add some sweet Riesling to the pot and resume simmering. In a saute pan, saute some thinly sliced bacon. Remove the bacon and drain. In another saute pan, saute some thinly sliced apples in butter (I quarter them, cut the seeds, and then slice. I only peel if the skins are thick. I use organic apples so i don't get the pesticides and the wax). Add the bacon and the apples to the kraut with Riesling, add caraway seeds and a bit of white pepper (I like a pinch or two of nutmeg, clove, or allspice also). Serve when kraut is tender.

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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/5/2008 10:37:12 AM   
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HK, yum and thanks....got it, loud and clear!

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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/5/2008 12:49:01 PM   
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sorry, just a try

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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/5/2008 1:34:02 PM   
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huh?

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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/5/2008 1:37:50 PM   
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i'm hypertensive so i understand the whole no salt thing (yep 23 and hypertensive got to love genetics). vinegar, lemon juice, and a lot of fresh herbs. it's mainly a matter of just letting yourself get used to it. there's a lot of hidden salt in stuff too so if you really want to cut down you need to read the back of bottles including your herb mixtures. cajun seasoning is full of it. i'm not sure how much you really want to cut out though.

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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/6/2008 8:07:00 AM   
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i am addicted to salt, i put it on most anything.  i've come to realize that i eat too much of it and since i'm no spring chicken anymore, that it is an area i need to look at seriously. 

in the last few days i've tried to cut my intake down and boy do i not like unsalted food!  maybe i'll just have to acquire a taste for it over time.  i suppose i could just go cold turkey, i'm sure my body wouldn't go into shock, but i might find myself looking for a salt-lick the next time i'm on a hike.

anyone have some tips for easing out of a bad salt habit?  are there herbs or spices that might come close to salt?  any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


As it happens, i was put on a salt-free diet when i was pregnant many years ago, due to toxemia.
 
Man, food tasted like sh*t -- particularly bread, for some reason. 
 
Frankly i simply could not adhere to the MD's orders and ate a salt-reduced diet....but not much actual reduction was going on. i just could not face the salt-free stuff and i was sooo hungry.
 
Why are you concerned about yr salt intake?  What makes you think it is excessive?  Are you having any symptoms, like retaining a lot of water?
 
My advice is salt your food, unless and until it is clear salt presents a real danger to you. 
 
Salt-free groceries are ( or were) very hard to find and cost the earth.
 
As well, who knows what the manufacturers are substituting for salt as an ingredient?  (i made my own bread, back in the day.  It is not possible to get the dough to rise properly without salt, so bread manufacturers are definately using s'thing instead.)
 
If i sound a bit definate in my views about this, i can assure you, i come by this position honestly.  Food is supposed to nourish you, but that can't happen if you can't gag it down.
 
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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/7/2008 4:41:02 AM   
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lol..."salt lick".
i think your addiction may be mental too maybe? i do not cook or put salt on my foods. It just began one day and now it is the norm. After awhile you dont really miss it much. there are products out there that you can use in place of salt. As i have not read any other replies to you, i may be repeating, so i apologize in advance. You can try to experiement with different hearbs in place of salt, see how that works for you. Mrs. Dash is good too.
And, as you still look to have many, many years ahead of you..... too much salt can also cause edema, and other health issues i am sure when you get older..

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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/7/2008 11:48:43 PM   
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...but i do have severe anemia and pica...maybe that could cause my salt cravings...


Hi Christine. I would seriously consider this as a cause of your salt cravings. I say this both from the perspective of an individual who has experienced anemia and as a person working in health care. I have always had a heavy menstrual cycle and for a good chunk of my life I hovered close to being anemic and actually having two somewhat severe bouts of it. During my teens and most of my 20's, I would chew ice. I do recall too a time in my early 20's when I had a desire for salt. Apparently it is something that those with low iron and/or anemia will do. (I have the stress fractures on my teeth to show for it!) I don't chew ice now - or at least I don't have this desire to do it, but now that I am aware of how these odd cravings can be stimulated from being anemic or having low iron levels, I try to keep on top of maintaining good iron levels.

If your salt cravings were anything like mine were, replacing it with something else isn't going to entirely relieve the cravings. I think you might try slowly diminishing the amount of salt you use on those foods that "must" have salt and trying to enhance the flavors of other foods so that you can, eventually, completely eliminate the use of salt on those foods. Does that make sense? I still like a LOT of salt on french fries, but I rarely eat fries so it isn't a problem.  There isn't an easy  fix. You will have to be vigilant in how much salt you use in order to whittle it down to a "normal" level.

Bonne chance! :)

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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/9/2008 3:58:49 PM   
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I've heard that the real problem with table salt is the additives. Try some UNREFINED seassalt.It is expensive but doubles as a very effective mineral supplement. The problem with it is that it is not as salty as table salt, and there is a fine line between enough and too much. Plus you have to grind it as you use it. I think that's where the saying "pound salt" came from. Whoever was supposed to help in the kitchen was inept so they got to smash up the salt for the meal. You can't do this in advance, because it absorbs moisture from the air, it will again become a piece of rock soon.

Notice regular table salt does not do that, and I believe that it is that property which makes it harmful. Unrefined salt even in the coarse form will turn into a piece of rock if it is not kept in an airtight comtainer. Then you would have to pound salt and then pound salt again.

It's a pain in the ass actually, but this is your health.

As mentioned Mrs Dash is a good alternative, and one that I haven't seen mentioned is vinegar. In soups and stews as well as chili and paprikash it can all but eliminate the need for salt. For real addicts it can at least reduce the amount needed. Works on alot of other things as well, but there are some things you just can't use it on.

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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/9/2008 6:03:22 PM   
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Just stop using it. You will get used to it pretty quickly. I quit using it a long time ago. You do need the iodine in salt so you will need to get it from somewhere else. Iodine is fairly important, they put it in salt so everyone would always get enough.

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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/18/2008 3:29:29 PM   
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thanks to all for the suggestions, i've tried the Ms. Dash and lemon juice, vinegar etc and it does help.  i've just slowly cut down and i'm getting used to it. 

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RE: Pass the Salt - 6/18/2008 4:53:23 PM   
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Fast Reply:

As Hekaron mentioned,
a craving for salt may indicate a bodily MINERALS deficiency.

Try taking a daily multi-minerals supplement.

Seems safe to presume that no harm would accrue, even if it does not help.
[barring your having an IRON overload susceptability]
[perhaps find a multi-minerals sans IRON supplement]

Alternatively, speak with a homeopath.
Bodily imbalances are something they commonly address.

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