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Level -> The Gas Prices We Deserve? (6/6/2008 7:56:55 PM)

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Drilling is underway 60 miles off Florida. The drilling is being done by China, in cooperation with Cuba, which is drilling closer to South Florida than U.S. companies are.

ANWR is larger than the combined areas of five states (Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Delaware), and drilling along its coastal plain would be confined to a space one-sixth the size of Washington's Dulles airport. Offshore? Hurricanes Katrina and Rita destroyed or damaged hundreds of drilling rigs without causing a large spill. There has not been a significant spill from an offshore U.S. well since 1969. Of the more than 7 billion barrels of oil pumped offshore in the past 25 years, 0.001 percent -- that is one-thousandth of 1 percent -- has been spilled. Louisiana has more than 3,200 rigs offshore -- and a thriving commercial fishing industry.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/04/AR2008060403052.html




TheIslandofO -> RE: The Gas Prices We Deserve? (6/6/2008 8:13:54 PM)

Yes, but it will take a spectacular event to get the politicians and the special interests to do a damn thing. It will come and we will not like it when it does.




NumberSix -> RE: The Gas Prices We Deserve? (6/6/2008 8:17:28 PM)

I would rather not that we drill and cheapen it.


our godamn oil, exspensive as it is, can hang in the ground till its an emergency.

Am I missing something, or is there a shortage?  




Termyn8or -> RE: The Gas Prices We Deserve? (6/6/2008 11:50:07 PM)

Gas prices we deserve ? Did you forget I was here or something ?

Lesse here now.twenty thousand lives,just for want of a round figure. Over a hundred bucks a barrel, but we can use that figure for now. And we import what, twenty million barrells a day.

With the math done we arrive at a figure of two cents per human lide. And that is on a good day. Something like that. So why should we waste our own resources when we can take it from someone else ? Makes no sense. there are plenty in the military because we didn't teach them anything useful in school. Wouldn't you just as soon see them fighting somewhere haslfway across the globe rather than panhandling in our streets here ?

Come on people, own up to it. We are imperialists. Let's quit lying to ourself, and maybe, just maybe one day we can quit lying to others. ADMIT IT, and be at peace with yourself. Face the killer instinct and quit trying to hide it. Get real.

We are predators, no less. We are real MFs when it comes to oil. We will take over any country we can to secure the oil. Well, what happened in Venezuela was, well let's not talk about that. You know they still have to be conquered because they "export a radical form of populism". Don't you see ?

Our needs come first, err I mean that of our rulers, like Exxon, BP, Shell oil etc. These are the lifeblood of America.

Too bad they discovered that fact.

What if Ransom Eli Olds decided to be a carpenter ? What if Henry Ford became a bricklayer ? What if the first world war came out different and Hitler never came to power. There would be no Wolksvagons dammit !

What kind of world would this be ? (as opposed to what we got)

T




popeye1250 -> RE: The Gas Prices We Deserve? (6/7/2008 12:41:25 AM)

Term, and where are all those "ecologists" and "ecology" groups that didn't want any drilling or any new refineries built?
Is there any possable way that we could now get a list of their NAMES and ADRESSES?
I mean we haven't heard a peep out of them!
You'd think they'd want to go PUBLIC and make themselves KNOWN!




Hippiekinkster -> RE: The Gas Prices We Deserve? (6/7/2008 1:37:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NumberSix

I would rather not that we drill and cheapen it.


our godamn oil, exspensive as it is, can hang in the ground till its an emergency.

Am I missing something, or is there a shortage?  
Yes, you are missing something. All these white people who tool around in their Hummers and Escalades and Yukons and whatnot are ENTITLED because they have the money to buy these vee-hick-kules. Fuck the planet, fuck their kids, fuck everything: They're white and they're right.




Irishknight -> RE: The Gas Prices We Deserve? (6/7/2008 5:44:17 AM)

Noy all hummer drivers are white.  In fact, in the areas I've been living in, I see more people of African American descent driving SUVs all tricked out.  Its not a color issue on some of these things,  Its an "I want it" issue.




sophia37 -> RE: The Gas Prices We Deserve? (6/7/2008 6:56:21 AM)

Oh Bla bla bla George Will. The lines goes like this " One million barrels is what might today be flowing from ANWR if in 1995..."

Might and If people. Might and If. Coulda shoulda woulda. And George Will knows all and sees all. Time to move past the blathering. Anyone here care to start up their own campaign to get things done the right way? See. I think thats the problem. Everyone has ideas. But once someone else thinks about things, theres some other idea that gets presented. And no one can agree on ideas. That to me is a rub. Once your dreams include someone else, good luck!

Just about all any of us here on the board can do is to conserve. Stop using to the best of our ability. Stop using whatever. Not just oil. Put our money where our bal bla bla is. Maybe insulate our houses and or turn off our lights. Or whatever. Pick the conservation idea of your choice. Then stick with it till it becomes a part of your every day life. I think once we have something we know we do that helps, it takes some of the edge off. Who can keep reading all this stuff without becoming all riled up over time? Its scary, but hey, theres not much we can do other than what we can choose to do by oursleves. Unless we're excellent organizers and Thats a lifes calling. So lets all choose to do something we think adds to the overall good. End of Sophia sermon.




pahunkboy -> RE: The Gas Prices We Deserve? (6/7/2008 9:56:36 AM)

globalization, one can not serve 2 masters.  so is our allegience to globe or to country?   how about big business, is their allegience to globe or country?

we sell alot of coal to China, also oil from Alaska.

oil shale should now be cost effective.  there is a fuel source somehow on a different planet- or wherever- and if we can harness it, we could be in great shape.  BTW tax code from profits made not on earth- are tax free.






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