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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 7/29/2011 9:08:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistrixMsE
IMO...
You cant force someone to suck/fuck their own sex who doesnt on some level have at least a curiosity. When someone asks for a pro session with 'forced' bi, I underdtsnd that its their interest, that they ar not comfortable with... so my removing the 'choice' makes it easier to deal with their own personal issues with the fact that they are, at least a little bit, bi curious. If it helps get you through the night, psychologically, I'm game.

That may be true for some, but there is a different perspective as well. For many heterosexual males, cocksucking is the most degrading, humiliating thing he could possibly do. And it's this aspect that's so arousing/appealing -- not that they are "into," or "curious" about males on some level, subconscious or otherwise; but that they have basically done what represents the ultimate act of submission -- sucking a cock -- all at the whim of their mistress. To be so thoroughly dominated that you would partake in such an activity is an arousing thought indeed -- at least on some level. Take the domina out of the equation and they wouldn't look (or give any remotely passing thought) to engaging in any sexual activity with the same sex.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 7/29/2011 9:14:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistrixMsE

IMO...
You cant force someone to suck/fuck their own sex who doesnt on some level have at least a curiosity. When someone asks for a pro session with 'forced' bi, I underdtsnd that its their interest, that they ar not comfortable with... so my removing the 'choice' makes it easier to deal with their own personal issues with the fact that they are, at least a little bit, bi curious. If it helps get you through the night, psychologically, I'm game.

Yes you can. It's called obedience. Something that a lot of folks just don't seem to understand the concept of considering it's a BDSM site.

Asking you for "forced-bi" is a request. Submitting to My desire for them to do it, even though they don't want to is obedience of a command. There really is a difference between the two.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 7/30/2011 4:30:04 PM

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That may be true for some, but there is a different perspective as well. For many heterosexual males, cocksucking is the most degrading, humiliating thing he could possibly do. And it's this aspect that's so arousing/appealing -- not that they are "into," or "curious" about males on some level, subconscious or otherwise; but that they have basically done what represents the ultimate act of submission -- sucking a cock -- all at the whim of their mistress. To be so thoroughly dominated that you would partake in such an activity is an arousing thought indeed -- at least on some level. Take the domina out of the equation and they wouldn't look (or give any remotely passing thought) to engaging in any sexual activity with the same sex.

Bingo! Damacis nailed it.

Certainly, there are some who are bi-curious, and who need the illusion of being "forced" in order to act upon their fantasy. But there are others who have no such fantasy. I fall into the latter category.

Sex of any type with another man is a hard limit for me. But I must admit that the idea of being so thoroughly submitted to a woman that I would suck a cock if she commanded me to is an arousing thought. It's not the homosexual act that's arousing. It's the idea that she could get me to a point where I would do ANYTHING for her, even something that I find to be completely undesirable (and even objectionable).

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 7/30/2011 4:37:23 PM

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Sex of any type with another man is a hard limit for me. But I must admit that the idea of being so thoroughly submitted to a woman that I would suck a cock if she commanded me to is an arousing thought. It's not the homosexual act that's arousing. It's the idea that she could get me to a point where I would do ANYTHING for her, even something that I find to be completely undesirable (and even objectionable).

Change the underlined word to "heterosexual" and those are my thoughts exactly!

And you wonder why I idolize you so. Sheeesh!

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 7/30/2011 5:53:10 PM

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FR

This thread cracks me up. Every now and then, someone turns up and, without reading any of the thread at all, pronounces that any male who sucks a dick must be at least partially gay. He or she duly has scorn poured all over him/her. Then, someone else says exactly the same thing a month or so later, and is shot down in exactly the same way. Me, I feel like a total loner: one of the few men on the planet who really doesn't give a rotating rat's arse if he's seen as straight, gay, or any shade in between.

Heh. And if no-one turns up to make the standard comment, then *I'll* do it, just so that everyone can state their positions all over again, and just so that the femdoms who love the idea of het males gristle-gobbling can get their jollies yet again, too.

You have not been charged for this service. ;-)

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 7/30/2011 6:21:49 PM

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This thread cracks me up.

Me too. I come back after a year and you guys are still talking about man-on-man cock sucking. ;-)

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 7/30/2011 6:31:29 PM

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Hey, I recognize those legs! Welcome back, Beautiful.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 7/30/2011 6:33:11 PM

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Hey, I recognize those legs! Welcome back, Beautiful.

Awww thanks. But seriously, have you all talked about anything else in the last year? ;-)

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 8/3/2011 8:15:39 AM

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what can we say, LadyAngelika....the endurance of this thread has everything to do with the fact that so many of us want it on some level...but it's so taboo in the vanilla world....i've done it maybe 10 times...when i felt a level of force, i liked it...in some cases loved it...when i haven't...it really didn't do anything for me...still really have no clue if i'm any good at it lol

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 8/3/2011 8:47:01 AM

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oh for fuck's sake. just come out of the fucking closet will you?

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 8/3/2011 11:36:30 AM

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oh for fuck's sake. just come out of the fucking closet will you?

That's what I'm saying.. If ya gonna lick a tootsie pop to find out what's in the center, ya gotta like the candy to begin with.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 8/3/2011 11:57:29 AM

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hey welcome back icky. i missed ya.

i hate waiting for the good shit - you know us yoots and our need for instant gratification.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 8/3/2011 12:11:36 PM

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oh for fuck's sake. just come out of the fucking closet will you?

That's what I'm saying.. If ya gonna lick a tootsie pop to find out what's in the center, ya gotta like the candy to begin with.

Sorry, but I disagree. Hannah, your girl is right up there with the sexual orientation reversed. If you decided that you wanted her to obey your command for the very same act and expected her to submit, would you then tell her that she was really bi or straight all along because she obeyed what you told her to do?

Icary's, I know your policy isn't to share anyone sexually, but if you had a submissive who was a zero on the Kinsey scale, and you wanted her to be with another woman, does that suddenly make her bi?

Submission isn't always about the things that the submissive *wants* to do. It's the very things that they don't want to do that are the best ways to demonstrate just how much power you have over them. We're not talking about breaking someone's hard limits here. As Roch said, it's the potential of the dynamic becoming so solid over a period of time that a hard limit could possibly move to the realm of a soft limit, and then to the point where the submissive is so willing to obey that it isn't a limit at all. That's what power is. Pure, unadulterated, possession of another human who will give you every last single thing that he never thought he would give anyone. That's power.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 8/3/2011 1:26:18 PM

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oh come on ladyp, its not like roch saying he finds the idea of being so deeply submissive to do it hot. this guy only has fucking profile pics in women's underwear and says how he loves sucking cock when he can feel he's doing it for somebody else. he's done it 10+ times for fuck's sake, so it's not like slobbering over a penis is new to him.

maybe he isn't gay, but the fucking facts as verifiable and opinions as stated sure say just one thing to me

DENIAL!

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 8/3/2011 1:31:02 PM

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I didn't say they were both the same, Hannah. Pay attention.

I'm saying that if anybody sees them as both the same, they are missing the point.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 8/3/2011 2:10:51 PM

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Icary's, I know your policy isn't to share anyone sexually, but if you had a submissive who was a zero on the Kinsey scale, and you wanted her to be with another woman, does that suddenly make her bi?

You also know I don't usually do "what if" scenarios as well. I wouldn't be asking someone that wasn't bi to do something against their sexuality to begin with. Asking someone to go down on the ole snatctoleupagus or gnaw on the bean pole of love isn't the same as asking many of the other things to me.

Someone to me though that doesn't have a hard limit for blowing a rod or licking jajina probably leans that way a little. Nothing wrong with it but as Hannah-bo-banna-fe-fi-fo-fannah says....It's denial!

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 8/3/2011 2:12:51 PM

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hey welcome back icky. i missed ya.

i hate waiting for the good shit - you know us yoots and our need for instant gratification.

Fuck you too Hannah, you lovable lesbo.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 8/3/2011 2:20:04 PM

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Pick something else then.

The problem with this subject entirely is the fact that it focuses on an act. A sexual act at that, so supposedly, that makes it different somehow than any other act that a person might submit to. I really don't see it as any different than a person getting past their dislike of needles or being struck with a belt and getting to that place that they are able to do it because their Dominant says so.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 8/3/2011 3:38:41 PM

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oh come on ladyp, its not like roch saying he finds the idea of being so deeply submissive to do it hot. this guy only has fucking profile pics in women's underwear and says how he loves sucking cock when he can feel he's doing it for somebody else. he's done it 10+ times for fuck's sake, so it's not like slobbering over a penis is new to him.

maybe he isn't gay, but the fucking facts as verifiable and opinions as stated sure say just one thing to me

DENIAL!

Researches in sexuality have come to the conclusion that the overwhelming majority of transvestic fetishists, such as stripmymanhood, is typically a heterosexual male who cross-dresses as part of a sexual fetish. (see: http://www.forensicpsychiatry.ca/paraphilia/transfetish.htm)

So for your to write "this guy only has fucking profile pics in women's underwear" is an incorrect assumption that this means he's gay.

As for the forced part, well I think LadyPact explained it perfectly well here.

On should not make assumptions because they don't understand. You know what they say happens when you assume, right? ;-)

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 8/3/2011 4:51:01 PM

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The problem with this subject entirely is the fact that it focuses on an act. A sexual act at that, so supposedly, that makes it different somehow than any other act that a person might submit to. I really don't see it as any different than a person getting past their dislike of needles or being struck with a belt and getting to that place that they are able to do it because their Dominant says so.

If you say so..I say it's gayer than the day is long but each to his own or to another in this case.

"It takes the penis and puts it in or else it gets the hose again...." (Kinda twice if it doesn't comply)

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