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Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 1:58:47 AM

pinksugarsub

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i have crappy insurance, but it does cover an annual physical and similar preventive measures.

i choose not to be tested, examined, etc. Not for anything, including cervical cancer.

i admit it's partially because i already have to see the freaking MD so often for fibro, etc. But i also admit i'm just not willing to suffer the discomfort, pain or degradation of the tests 'recommended' for women my age.

i think if s'thing happens to my body, i'll notice symptoms, and can seek treatment for diseases i actually have. i don't want the anxiety of imagining i have everything from breast cancer to colon cancer, etc., once a year or so.

What's Y/your opinion?

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 2:10:41 AM

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Some wonderfully deadly diseases have no symptoms until it's far too late. Ironic since, if caught early, they are easily treatable. Colon cancer is a great example.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 2:23:05 AM

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There are a lot of things that can kill you that don't have any symptoms at all until it's too late. Cervical, breast and colon cancer are a few of them.

What's my opinion? Anyone who doesn't get such testing done and justifies it with reasons like humiliation is a fool. How humiliated do you think you might feel if they have to remove your breasts for no reason other than you waited too long....or when you wake up with that colostomy bag hanging off your side....or even worse, when you are lying there dying from the most treatable cancer with the highest rate of cure to date? And insurance has nothing to do with it. Most cities have clinics that offer those tests free of charge or for very low cost.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 6:17:22 AM

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What they said, and then some.

Not to mention what the cost of the medical bills for treatment will be out of your pocket that your crappy insurance probably won't cover a lot of, one, because they're crappy, and two, because they offered you preventative care which costs them a LOT less money.

Which will make the cost of health insurance rise even higher for both you and the rest of us, since they have to recoup their costs somehow.

Yeah, you're onto a great idea there.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 6:31:09 AM

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You can have masses growing inside you and have no clue until you become symptomatic and in surgery, with the cancer word bandied about, within the time frame of 4 weeks. You don't really want that sort of scare in your life, do you? I echo everything Erin has said.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 7:14:35 AM

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I'll state it as simply as I can. It is better to know than to not know. If you know you can chose to do nothing or to seek treatment. If you don't know that choice is taken away from you.

Another issue: while I'm not a fan of the "I've been tested" school it is better to know if you have something that can harm your partner. Just call it basic ethics.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 7:26:05 AM

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i think if s'thing happens to my body, i'll notice symptoms, and can seek treatment for diseases i actually have.

You are joking, right?

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 7:26:33 AM

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As a nurse I can tell you that the cost of being preventative is allot cheaper than the cost of chemo, surgeries, intensive care unit costs etc. Try your local Planned Parenthood, they will help provide the gyne exam at lower cost. As others have said. lots of cancers do not have symptoms until later stages, suchs as ovarian, cervical, uterine, colon, rectal, breast etc, etc.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 8:27:11 AM

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an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure......to have this available to you, services that so many are without, and not use them......my opinion is youre not using your brain properly.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 8:34:59 AM

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Well....since you asked for opinions...... my life is way too valuable to let an untrained person like myself do all my symptom spotting.

story time.... I went to my doctor for a checkup and she asked how I was and I mentioned this low level nausea that I couldn't get rid of. My doc knows me well and decided to send me for an ultrasound of my tummy to see if they could find anything, she then called me at work and asked me to come back to the surgery that evening .....and to bring someone with me. My friend and I went to the surgery, my doc called me in and sat me down and said you have a shadow over your liver, we don't know what it is but it doesn't look good. It turned out to be a very large benign tumour and over 70% of my liver was removed. My next scan to check if all is still clear is in a couple of weeks.

If I hadn't gone to my doctor for a general checkup and happened to mention the nausea which wasn't really bothering me that much the tumour would have basically overtaken my liver, it would have become malignant (it had already shown some pre-cancerous changes) and there is very little that can be done to treat someone with late stage liver cancer. And all of this could have happened with me having minimal symptoms.

So Pink, feel free to not go to your yearly checkups, feel free to not have a pap smear and mammogram done whenever they are due, live your life your way.

I sincerely wish you well.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 9:20:07 AM

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pink...dec 25th 2006 i lost my beloved fallcon. august 25th, he had a bout of rectal bleeding. they didnt really see anything wrong till he mentioned some tenderness on his stomach...within 5 weeks he was diagnosed with colon cancer that had already perforated and invaded the liver. surgery, a colostomy, they couldnt remove any of the tumors. massive amounts of chemotherapy, and this healthy 6'2" man had shrunk to just over 80 pounds. he never came home again.

my best in-person friend was 12 or 13 when she had her appendix out (as emergency surgery)....the doctor had "a feeling" and decided to look around in her belly and found the ovarian cancer that would have killed her within 6 months if he hadnt looked around. she's 35 and has 3 kids now.

yes, dealing with fibro and all that bullshit is a pain. literally. i deal with it daily too. but its better to get the checkup, even with crappy insurance, and catch things if they're there.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 9:38:12 AM

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Pink,
You know we just got back from California for the funeral. David was the closest thing Doug and myself had to a father after ours passed.

Let's see...he started having pains. His wife took him to the hospital..they said it was arthritis. She took him again. This went on for one month until while they were supposed to be sleeping one night he sat up in bed and mumbled how he couldn't take the pain any longer.
She took him to the ER of another hospital who immediately admitted him. Five days later he was on his way home to die.
Eight days after that he was dead.
Lung cancer, not detected..and the pain only went on for the month. It wasn't like doctors and hospitals kept turning him down for years...but week's. The doctors were at fault sure...however he passed within a month.
Cancer through his entire body the day he died.
Get checked or not, but if you don't. Just think about what it will do to your daughter who loves you. When you're gone and she is trying to answer those questions we all have.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 9:49:59 AM

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quote:

pink...dec 25th 2006 i lost my beloved fallcon. august 25th, he had a bout of rectal bleeding. they didnt really see anything wrong till he mentioned some tenderness on his stomach...within 5 weeks he was diagnosed with colon cancer that had already perforated and invaded the liver. surgery, a colostomy, they couldnt remove any of the tumors. massive amounts of chemotherapy, and this healthy 6'2" man had shrunk to just over 80 pounds. he never came home again.

I am sorry for your loss.

This is why people should have colonscopy exams beginning at age 50; or earlier if recommended by your doctor (if you are symptomatic or have a family history of polyps or colon cancer). This disease can be deadly at the time the first symptoms appear.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 11:04:14 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sub4hire

Pink,
You know we just got back from California for the funeral. David was the closest thing Doug and myself had to a father after ours passed.

Let's see...he started having pains. His wife took him to the hospital..they said it was arthritis. She took him again. This went on for one month until while they were supposed to be sleeping one night he sat up in bed and mumbled how he couldn't take the pain any longer.
She took him to the ER of another hospital who immediately admitted him. Five days later he was on his way home to die.
Eight days after that he was dead.
Lung cancer, not detected..and the pain only went on for the month. It wasn't like doctors and hospitals kept turning him down for years...but week's. The doctors were at fault sure...however he passed within a month.
Cancer through his entire body the day he died.
Get checked or not, but if you don't. Just think about what it will do to your daughter who loves you. When you're gone and she is trying to answer those questions we all have.

i didn't know all the details till now, sub4hire. How -- words fail me.

i hadn't thought of it from my UM's pov. That shook me up....i'd do anything for her. You know that.

My attitude towards testing began when i was in Florida. i had a HMO with its own facilities. Though i liked my GP, i detested my gyn. He once had his staff leave me a voice mail at the office that my pap results had come back abnormal. i almost fainted.

Only to find out my pap wasn't taken correctly and couldn't be tested, so i had to have it redone. Took almost a week to get that information.

i could go on, but you get the general idea. i reached my 'f**k this' point.

Okay -- i'll get a physical. <pouts>

pinksugarsub

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 12:48:23 PM

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Pink, you need to listen to what people here have said. The only thing I can add to it is that if my Dad had managed to scrape together the cost of a lousy colonoscopy, His Stage IV rectal cancer would have been caught in time and He would still be alive today. If you love your kids, take care of yourself.

I'm really sorry for your losses, pixidustpet and sub4hire. Congratulations on catching your tumor early wandersalone.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 1:32:38 PM

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I've had trouble getting clear answers about a recent pap I had done... they said they'd send the results so I can be retested but 6 months later, nothing... all the while they're calling me, letting me know about "abnormal" test results while I can't do a thing about it... so yes, it's embarassing and irritatng and downright infuriating sometimes to deal with doctors and insurance and all that, but if it's covered, I'd rather do something about it and know... not assume... that everything is alright. Assuming you're okay will probably invite in a whole gang of irony and irony doesn't make a good housemate.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 3:11:35 PM

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Pink , i shall put it this way you only have one you take care of it and preventives along with healthy living habits and check up s are a part of it all .If you buy a new car for example , and the only thing you do is put gas in it and drive it , the car shall not last long .But if you change the oil , inspect the car and give it the attention it deserves it shall give you back years of service , just as your own body shall .No excuses call and make that appointment.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/11/2008 4:21:46 PM

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Call 911...

Wait! maybe 411 first!

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/12/2008 2:31:48 AM

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Well, nuts to Y/you Guys!

sub4hire, i have an appointment for a physical on July 1st. It will include a gyno exam. Thank you for taking the time and effort to try and change my mind, sweetie.

i know Y/you Guys are right -- but Man, i am dreading the physical and any tests my MD may order.

O, well.

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RE: Preventive Measures - 6/12/2008 8:04:26 AM

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Don't we all dread the doctor? Unless of course you are having an affair with the doctor then you may actually want to go.

Let me know how it goes....I also have an appt with the podiatrist for my bone spurs. He is lazy...I'm trying my hardest to get him to operate on my right foot. Me asking for an operation....well you know its bad. I would go to the ends of the earth before any operation...but this one...well its time.

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