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The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/24/2004 4:23:19 PM

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Over my last year and a half in the D's world, i have heard very little about the Gorean side, does anyone know about it, who can comment and make suggestions of good websites to research it on?

Or does anyone have experience, i'm especially interested in hearing the slaves point of view here, on what it's like, how you came to know about it...exc....all details and facts are greatly appreciated.

I'm about to embark on the journey of Gor in almost two weeks, and finding nothing that really helps me understand it, i've come here to ask, what you know, and what works and doesn't work in your oppinion, how the lifestyle would make you feel and all of that good stuff. Just some basic thoughts, oppinions, and experiences are good.

thanks A/all

RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/24/2004 4:56:30 PM

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Hi Looking,

For the Gorean slave perspective, do a search on shai^tana as post author.

For the Gorean Master's view, do a search on Leonidas as author.

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/24/2004 7:32:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: lookingwithin04

I'm about to embark on the journey of Gor in almost two weeks, and finding nothing that really helps me understand it, .

thanks A/all

lookingwithin-
Huh?? You're about to embark upon a journey you know nothing about? I understand being attracted to the unknown, but you have to at least have a map of how to get there!! I am not downing you or making fun of you, but your post has me concerned.
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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/24/2004 8:10:54 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lookingwithin04

I'm about to embark on the journey of Gor in almost two weeks, and finding nothing that really helps me understand it

I assume you are hooking up with someone who's told you they are Gorean.

Go to the source: John Norman. He wrote 26? books in the Gor series, but if you want to choose one that would give you a feel for the world that Goreans are trying to emulate, read this book, "Captive of Gor". There are links on Amazon to resellers: www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345341996/qid=1090724913/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-1056175-3228937?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

If that isn't quick enough for you, I found this site with a quick google search that might help: http://www.counter-urth.com/

I stumbled across this book when I was in the 8th grade in a book store. At the time, I found it to be a hot fantasy. However, today I would not find the reality to my liking.

Best of luck to you.

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/24/2004 8:31:15 PM

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your just to busy looking within instead of without
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WORLD OF GOR

For Gor Online Teaching of Basics and roleplay click:
For Real Life application click:
For Gor Cronicles to read and study click:

Real Life Goreans Groups and get togethers and the States Groups gather.
DALLAS TEXAS GOREAN EVENTS:
http://www.mindspring.com/~dallasgor/events.html
http://www.dallasgor.org/
http://www.dallasgor.net/
http://www.thegoreanorder.com/
SAN ANTONIO TEXAS
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/House_of_Dracol

ALTERNATE LIFESTYLE TROUBLES SUPPORT
http://www.immediatefamily.org

MICHIGANS WHIPSTOCK 2004
http://www.immediatefamily.org/whipstock2004text.html

GOREAN PERSONAL ADS
http://www.mindspring.com/~goreanpersonals/home.htm

GOR FEST 2005
http://www.gorfestok.com/

SEATTLE WA. GOR GROUP
http://www.dslifestyles.net/gdg.htm
CHICAGO
Master Sar holds an annual event in the Chicago
area each Spring that also brings Goreans and D/s
together in a venue where they may meet face-to-face
and learn from each other.
OHIO/PENNSYLVANNIA
Nightwing_En and a group of friends holds a
Gathering in the Ohio/Pennsylvannia area a couple times a year
CENTRAL FLORIDA
D.R.E.A.D. Gor munchies group holds an annual event in the Florida
area each Fall that also brings Goreans and M/s
together in a venue where they may meet face-to-face
and learn from each other.
PES
http://www.peselectro.com/PESMainGreetingsPage.asp
LAUGHLIN NV. THE GOR GATHERING 2005
[email protected]
NEW MEXICO GOREAN GROUP
http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/gornm/

ARIZONA GOREANS MUNCHIE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arizona_Goreans/
CALIFORNIA GOREANS MUNCHIE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CaliforniaGoreans
COLARADO GOREANS MUNCHIE
http://www.darkfortressdungeon.com/goreanedge/index.html
METRO DC GOREANS MUNCHIE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Metro_DC_Gor
CHICAGO GOREANS MUNCHIE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChicagoGor
NORTH CAROLINA GOREANS MUNCHIE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TALON-GoreanSIG/
LAS VEGAS GOREANS MUNCHIE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Lasvegasgoreans/
AUSTRALIA GOREANS MUNCHIE
http://www.goraustralia.com/wa.html
CANADIAN GOREAN MUNCHIE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CanadianGor
BRITISH COLUMBIA GOREAN MUNCHIE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BCGor
ONTARIO GOREANS MUNCHIE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OntarioGor
VANCOVER GOREANS MUNCHIE
http://members.shaw.ca/VancouverGor/
GOR ON THE NET
http://rainbowartistry.net/top/index.php?a_m=1
http://p.webring.com/hub?ring=greatgoreanring

GOR ON EARTH THE NATURE OF PROPERTY
http://www.gor-on-earth.com/property.htm

KORABA SLAVE PENS
http://groups.msn.com/ak4idtrbo6gpej3sia0ilug9a5

sum MSN GOR GROUPS:
http://groups.msn.com/MasterHRDragonsChambers/
http://groups.msn.com/HighReachesaFreeCity-StateofGor/
http://groups.msn.com/HighReachesScrolls/
http://groups.msn.com/GoreanKajirasHandBook/
http://groups.msn.com/GoreanSlaveRegistry/
http://groups.msn.com/fcmtkg8tqpcoeh9j226omt7ha4/
http://groups.msn.com/GORFREEPRESS/
http://groups.msn.com/TheGoreanDailyFreePress/
http://groups.msn.com/TheGoreanDailyFreePressII/
http://groups.msn.com/AllGorTimes
http://groups.msn.com/TheBlackCaste
http://groups.msn.com/AGoreanHandbook/
http://groups.msn.com/NyokasGardenParadise
www.goreanroleplay.com
http://goreanfw3.100freemb.com/Home.html
http://creative-illusionz.com/font1.html
http://www.kassarrune.com
http://groups.msn.com/FederationofGor/
http://groups.msn.com/TheServery/
http://groups.msn.com/GorGraphics/

TO NAME A FEW.................................................

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/25/2004 3:11:30 PM

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i totally love you MistressDread!!!!!!!! thank you so much

to everyone else thank you as well, i'm just curious about the lifestyle at the moment, but my Master is into the slave possitions of the Gorean lifestyle. Not much else from what i can gather, but again thank you all.

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/25/2004 3:17:19 PM

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quote:

Huh?? You're about to embark upon a journey you know nothing about?

People do this sort of thing all the time. Do you really believe the Crimson Permanent Assurance knew where it was going?

Sinergy

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/25/2004 8:19:39 PM

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I looked into it awhile ago. But my fondest Gorean memory was playing with a male sub who was very Gor. He was amazing! Too bad I didn't keep track of him.

Good luck. :)

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/25/2004 8:25:19 PM

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both the primary and secondary slave positions
are in the Dominants of Gor. There are also the
primary and secondary slave positions for BDSM.
in there as well which are different in style and name.
There are also Dominant positions and postures not
to mention the rules regulations and proticals of both.
plenty to read and study and learn and enjoy!Have fun.

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/25/2004 11:08:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

quote:

Huh?? You're about to embark upon a journey you know nothing about?

People do this sort of thing all the time. Do you really believe the Crimson Permanent Assurance knew where it was going?

Sinergy

Sin-
As a submissive woman, I just don't think it's safe to commit yourself to something you're not educated in. When the OP came back and said that her dude was just into the slave positions, but she wasn't sure what else, that also put up a red flag for me. HOWEVER- I am a contract/romance junkie. I like to KNOW. It makes me feel safe. If people are ready to dive headfirst into a lake they can't see, that's fine. I just prefer to do my diving in the sunlight. (Hope that made sense.)
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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/26/2004 6:26:29 AM

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i have been in the gorean lifestyle online for about a year now. you may send a message to me if you wish, i'd be happy to try and answer any questions you may have. but my best advice would be to read the books to gain a general understanding of the lifestyle. Gor is harsh, very harsh, and it seems to have a more strict discipline thand D's ever has........at least from what i've seen. hope this helps. i hope to hear from you.

innocent angel

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/26/2004 6:52:09 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzBerlin

(*whisper*- What is the Crimson Permanent Assurance?)

Oh my...in addition to the 50 books I'll make you read when I kidnap you, I see we are going to need to log some time with some Monty Python films...

(I am picturing something like Clockwork Orange...*evil grin*)

Yours always,
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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/26/2004 6:59:52 AM

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quote:

...but my Master is into the slave positions of the Gorean lifestyle. Not much else from what i can gather, but again thank you all.

Slave positions serve two purposes for us. The first is that they are a cultural commonality, kind of like when someone approaches you and extends their right hand, you know that they want to shake hands, not grab your crotch (well, usually anyway). So, when a girl goes from place to place, and she is given a command to position, she knows what to do without a long explanation.

The second purpose of the positions is that they can be a perfection. Highly polished slaves strive, in a Geisha like way, to make everything that they do pleasing to the eye. That class of slave epitomizes simple, modest grace and feminine allure. Not all slaves strive for this kind of perfection. Not all men even want them to. Depends on the man, and what he requires.

You'll find some information and some misinformation in the links that Dread posted. Someone else counseled that you read the books. It's good advice, if for no other reason than to have a point of reference when reading what some of the online folks have written about the Gorean way. It's hard to tell the shit from the shineola sometimes.

Take care of yourself

Leonidas

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/26/2004 8:46:26 AM

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quote:

Sin-
As a submissive woman, I just don't think it's safe to commit yourself to something you're not educated in. When the OP came back and said that her dude was just into the slave positions, but she wasn't sure what else, that also put up a red flag for me. HOWEVER- I am a contract/romance junkie. I like to KNOW. It makes me feel safe. If people are ready to dive headfirst into a lake they can't see, that's fine. I just prefer to do my diving in the sunlight. (Hope that made sense.)
As Always
Berlin

Berlin,

The idea of diving headfirst into something as potentially dangerous as BDSM without doing all the research I possibly can about it is something I would not dream of doing. Nor would I suggest somebody else do so.

That said, when you see The Crimson Permanent Assurance as HWMNBN has indicated you shall, you may see that my post was a rather smart-assed jeer at the idea of setting forth on a voyage where one has no idea where one is going.

Best to HWMNBN if you would be so kind.

Sinergy

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Monty Python's The Meaning Of Life

< Message edited by Sinergy -- 7/26/2004 8:48:52 AM >

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/26/2004 3:38:54 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty
I am picturing something like Clockwork Orange...*evil grin*

Appy polly loggies for posting off topic…

But if you really want to torture the devotchka, I suggest you get her to viddie the sinny thrice in a row! That will really get her spoogy. Bog and all his angels help her!

It’s sure beats a slap of the rook on the sharries. Pure horrorshow!

And that would make you the baddiwadest chelloveck in the East ;)

- LA

(the Kubrick obsession shines through....)

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/26/2004 3:57:29 PM

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as it relates to Gor and Gorean Philosopy, do not get confused. I have come across many who claim to be r/l Gorean. now, I don't judge, but it would seem hard to me to be Gorean on Earth, at least to any point which is describe either online or "by the books"
I have indulged myself in Gor (online) now forr almost two years, and currently me and mine are still involved, though we both realise the importance of r/l..and delving in a fantasy world. roleplay Gor is wonderful, if you are into roleplay, which many are. living it is another story. Fortunately, we live in a country where rights are everyones to have. forgoing those rights to an extent is, to me, acceptable, as long as the play is safe and the intent is to better oneself.
roleplay Gor sites are everywhere, you may wish to check MSN chat rooms (though they are pay by year now) and a site called www.gcn.cx learn before you tread on roleplay Gor though, it is as harsh as the books describe. for further info, I can be reached at [email protected]

I hope I have been of some help to you.

Master Poenice

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/30/2004 12:33:46 PM

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Why can't someone be Gor on earth? I am very disinterested in power exchange, slavery, and dominance. These are foreign and i don't enjoy the practice of demeaning others into my point of view one bit. However, i also think that about 99% of the people on this site are too interested in titles and names and slave positions and such. I don't even know if i am a gor switch at all. What i do know is that the pleasure of my partner is of utmost importance to me, so what does that make me. What is Gor play? How can you play at that? What makes someone gorean instead of slave or dom? I can be a great slave and a great dom but neither is my true nature. Just because is never a good reason lol shit i already forgot what i was trying to say oh well. Mistress Dread can you please tell me what makes a gor?

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/30/2004 12:46:29 PM

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It's not the things that one does with or to a slave that separates Gorean from not. It's the philosophy and reasoning behind one's actions, both in the context of keeping slaves, and elsewhere in life that is the difference. The Gorean way is a whole way of thinking about life. What we have in common with the BDSM community is that the notions of dominance and submission are important in our culture, and we do keep slaves. See the "BDSM and Natural Man" thread for an example of a Gorean point of view.

Take care of yourself

Leonidas

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/30/2004 4:26:23 PM

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Philosophy? Didn't the Gorean lifestyle start from some fantasy books? I mean no offense but Gor seems like Dungeons and Dragons with bdsm added. If you want to follow this in your life, I don't have a problem with that. But it's role playing taken to an extreme degree. Nothing more.
In my opinion of course.

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RE: The Gorean Lifestyle - 7/30/2004 4:37:34 PM

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Estring. . .I happened to agree with what you say. . .but I'm trying very hard to keep an open mind about the whole gor phenomenon. I also understood that it sprung from a book or series of books decades ago.
To try and live out something that is purely fictional/fantasy. . .isn't that akin to being an extreme trekkie? Like. . .teaching your kids to speak klingon and designing your house to look like the USS Enterprise (which amazingly some people do.)

And as someone brought up in BDSM in the Old WOrld tradition, protocol was considered highly important. Therefore, for every protocol we learned in the Old World tradition. . .we learned the same for Old Guard and gor. I could see why Old Guard chose some of their protocol. . .such as the position of inspection. They are on their knees, head level, eyes not downcast, arms positioned with fingers locked (entertwinded) behind the head. This is because the people who first used it were of a military back ground. I could see it as being functional for their needs. (Not to mention it was very accessible.)

With gor, eyes down. knees spread, palms up. . .the palms up part is to show that they had no weapons (I guess so the newly taken slaves doesn't try to kill the new master and his household. . .). . .I just can't see how you can suspend reality to the point of "imagining" a slave uprising at any moment.

So I agree with Estring. . .is seems like role play taken to the extreme.

(I could totally be talking out of my ass. . .and if I am. . .I'm sure someone will let me know. *wink*)

Cheers!

~Jules~

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