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Where do dollar stores get all their food from an why i... - 6/15/2008 7:07:57 PM   
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You see all kinds of foods an stuff but I never buy food from those places. I am supicious as to why if the food was good food it'd go to the bargain bin stores.
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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/15/2008 9:13:46 PM   
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YHMA there are many reasons.

When you own a heavily traddiced retail store, you shelves are your gold. Different brands compete for space. The two factors that make a winner are packaging and sales volume.

Don't get me wrong, I am not in retail sales, I just know everything (that should satisfy the stupidity part). But seriously, let's take a certain product for example. Kraft macaroni and cheese. Well there are comparable products from different manufacturers. In Kraft's heyday they might be given four or five rows on the shelf, while the competitors only got two. There are two reasons for this.

First of all a retailer wants to put the fastest moving product(s) in the customer's face. More rows on the shelf means more product exposure, and since the goal is to sell the product, this makes everybody happy.

Second of all with more rows on the shelf the don't have to restock as often. They try to figure it out, like a ratio. If these are outselling those by two to one, the better seller gets X rows on the shelf and the lesser seller gets half as much.

On some products they eventually see dust. When they see dust on it, it has to go.

Meat and other produce have a way more critical timeline. They spoil. They can be frozen but they spoil. For example meat. They will repackage it while it is still good and freeze it. Then it does not spoil. People do not want to pay as much for frozen meat, but the alternative is to throw it away.

I don't know if you heard about ALDI but around here they are the dollar store of food. And they are gaining popularity because alot of their products are quite good. They now have a house brand of salad dressings that I think are as good as Wishbone. Their other condiments are great as well. Their real mayonaisse is second to none.

But you were talking dollar stores. I'll tell you this about dollar stores, there are some deals. You need a cheap wall clock, a buck. Clock radio, two bucks. I mean you can't beat it for certain things, but food ? Well you have to check the merchandise out.

I'll tell you where the deals are on foods - SPICES.

Yes, a nice little byproduct of how the system works is that sometimes you can find a really good deal on spices. Reason being ? The store general manager doesn't care what it costs, so spices that alot of people don't know about or don't know how to use are shipped off to the dollar market. Some of these were five bucks a bottle, some were two. But the dollar store got them all in a batch and pretty much paid the same price. This is where you can get ahead.

I can't tell you how many spices are in my spice rack that have a one dollar price tag on them, while the EXACT same product sits at the grocery store with a price tag of $5.79.

Of curse you have to be careful, but you have to even at a high fallouting fancy supermarket. Need to look at ingredients, look for that dreaded hydrogenated. Look see if salt is the first friggin ingredient listed. You have to look. Even a Heinen's.

In this area Heinen's is the best grocery around I can find. To get better meat you would have to go to a butcher. They have things other stores do not. But you have to watch them as well. They have some prepackaged foods and processed meat. But their fresh meat is top notch. They are also a bit pricey.

Step down to ALDIs for certain things. And then dollar stores, for certain other things.

Now there is another thing if you eat pasta, if you buy it at a dollar store it my be broken up. Your pipes or shells or whatever might be in pieces. Bags of nacho chips may have quite a bit of teensy pieces at the bottom. Things like that. And that is not necessarily the reason, remember it has been transported more times. This does not affect the nutritional properties, just the form. So it depends on what you are using it for.

Then the canned goods. If the cans are not damaged there is no reason to suspect them. Now all premade canned foods have alot of sodium, they should be avoided. But things like cans of tomatoes, corn, things like that, they are probably on par. The problem was that people may have had a brand loyalty, or it was a new brand they were afraid to try. Give me a really really good can of roma tomatoes and I will beat a path to your door. We have found that the most major brand is not always the best when it comes to certain things.

So yes, be wary, but also be wary in the fancy supermart that was built out of money they screwed you out of. People have an impression that big and nice is good, and that small and not so nice is bad. Cheap stores do not put alot of money into their environment or "atmosphere". The big store most likely gave it up at cost. Now you don't have to pay for three hundred grand a week advertising, a 120,000 BTU air conditioner and a yacht for the owner.

That is where you save money. You could go to a butcher, ALDIs and a dollar store and be eating pretty good quality food if you play your cards right.

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/15/2008 9:23:21 PM   
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I also see a lot of name brand products at the dollar store that are being sold in a redesigned package at the grocery store. The remaining stock of the "old" packaging gets shipped to the dollar store. 

Then there are things like really good buys on Kraft Mac & Cheese (my excuse - I have kids) in which the directions are in spanish or some other language.  Apparently that product didn't sell well in that market so they shipped the remaining stock to the dollar store.  I can make mac&cheese without the directions, so it's a good buy.

And then sometimes it's a flavor of something that didn't sell well in the grocery and it's being discontinued, or it's no longer appropriate (such as "Christmas" themed breakfast cereal in January).

Just check expiration dates, and never buy a leaky or rusty can.

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/15/2008 9:35:49 PM   
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The dollar stores here in Texas are less of an overall bargain than they used to be - a by-product, perhaps, of rising fuel prices.  The food products are limited to pre-packaged items and a few dairy and frozen products.  However, as Termyn8or & CalifChick point out, there are still good $ bargains remaining - especially in the dollar store's own generic brands (like the pantyhose!)

I have been associated (directly & indirectly) with retail operations off & on for years - ALWAYS check the expiration dates, no matter if it's the "upscale" store or the dollar store!!

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/15/2008 10:30:00 PM   
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You know not to follow directions.

For example mashed potatoes. They say X cups of water and all this shit, fuck that. Use about ¾ milk and about a stick of butter. Cut up the butter and melt it, you can melt it in the water before you add three times as much cold milk to it, but it really doesn't save any time. If you got seasalt put it in right away. And some pepper depending on the eaters' taste.

As soon as this comes to a boil you start shoveling in the flakes with a fork, and you keep doing that and stirring it in until it feels like mashed potatoes. Then you stop, keep stirring it for about another minute, then turn the heat off and throw a bunch of slices of butter on top, cover it and it is done. Nice firm mashed potatoes that almost taste right, as if you made them for real.

Mac-n-cheese. Buy three boxes and throw out the pasta from one. Well you can save it for something else. Boil it up (al dente), when it's done cut up about a stick of butter and melt it in. Sprinkle the powder in it. Keep stirring it, get it mixed in. Then add the milk and crank the heat to max. Stir and stir. Hopefully 90 % of the time you put in a bit too much milk. Boil it off. Let it cool and evaporate for about 15 minutes or so. Give it a good stir and it is then done.

I don't eat either of those things anymore because I think they are no good for you, but if you are going to eat them at least enjoy them. With the mac-n-cheese you wind up with a cache of pasta. That can be thrown in soup or used other ways. You have heard of Tupperware. Ziplock bags.

Today's day and age, you will probably see people making a hundred grand a year in those dollar stores.

T

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/16/2008 6:01:56 PM   
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I WISH that Aldi's was out this far west....I love the place!  Used to do most of my basic staples shopping there, and frozen foods too.  I'd save a fortune in food costs, and never had a problem with their quality, but I think that's only because they aren't like a dollar store in the fact that they aren't used to clear out unsold stock.

The Dollar Tree stores seem to be the best bet, although sometimes you see stuff in there you wouldn't buy.....but I always check the expiration dates.  Usually, I only buy cleaning stuff, household gadgets, dry food items like bread, cookies, or chips.  I get Hunt's spaghetti sauce there in the can, but have found that it's sometimes cheaper elsewhere.  I get pasta there too.  They actually sell food items that indicate on the packages that it was specifically packaged for them.....again, I've never had a problem with the items.

As for the origination of the stuff in the stores?  It's just all overstock, or unsold products from other stores.  Close to the expiration date, the stores want to get something out of it if they can.  They sell it to the dollar stores, the dolalr stores sell it to you.

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/16/2008 6:09:32 PM   
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Well... my Dom told me about this Lawry's brand steak and grill seasoning he was in love with from that same company and he couldn't find it anywhere but had two more bottles as he bought it at a place he saw it at..so i called Lawry's and the woman on the phone told me it had been discontinued....but try some dollar stores...no thanks...there is only one in my city and the parking lot is always filled up! but ..just wanted you to know what type of product might end up there...i looked forever online for it too but we can only please to a point right...grrrrrrrrrrrrr  (oh wait i should take what he has left and have it chemically analyzed..wow..just thought of that...whew!)

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/16/2008 6:18:31 PM   
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Canned goods at the dollar store are usually cost more then getting it at a regular store.  But hey, my kids love count chocula cereal and sometimes the dollar store has it when it isn't halloween and the date is still good.  i went to the Dollar Tree the other night and we found my fav balonge there, it was just find.  Sometimes you can get the good grain breads there too and not pay $3-4 for a loaf.  Our Dollar Tree actually has a large food section, i was suprised what they had. 

we have Aldi's here, i love that place for my boxed and canned goods and some of my frozen foods. 

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/16/2008 6:56:18 PM   
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My favorite TV ad of all time (it even trumps the Isuzu "liar" ads of the late 70's) was for a Dollar store in Philly.

Guy goes in to a Dollar store...walks around....store help is following him (obviously to be helpful)...guy looks at some product (it's a dollar) and he turns to the store help and says "WOW!!!! This is AMAZING!!!! This is a dollar?"....store help says "Yes Sir...it's a dollar...see...this is a dollar store".

Guy walks down a few feet, picks up another item...guy says "How much is THIS?"....store help (looking a bit perpelexed) says "well sir....that'd be a dollar".

Guy says "NO WAY???!!!!????!!!!"

Guy goes down another aisle, finds something he REALLY wants and asks the fellow..."so how much is this?"....store guy says..."Uhhhmmmmm....a dollar....".

Guy is clearly freaking...can't believe what he's found....goes down another aisle...finds ANOTHER cool thing, holds it out and says "How much?"....store guy says "Sir...it's a dollar store...you see...everything here is...uhhhmmm...how can I say this...well...a dollar...see that sign at the cash register that says 'Dollar Store?'...well, we actually made that sign for a fairly good reason...you see...everything here...sells for a dollar...(customer guy is just like lighting up, ready to light off for a 4th of July explosion...beaming)....so....I'm not sure if I'm making myself clear here Sir but....everything's a dollar...get it...uhhhh....are you well Sir?".

I love that ad lol.

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/16/2008 7:13:06 PM   
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After working in retail long enough, I happen to know that most dollar store fod is in one of 3 classes:
1. Warehouse overstock. If a purchaser got overzealous and overordered an item that didnt sell even close to expected, they cut their losses and unload it to a dollar store.
2. New packaging.  Those of us regular retail stores that have distribution deals with manufacturers ae required to remove old packaging when they redesign it. We had to pull and discard tons of soup cans with expired contest offers and things like that.
3. Company discontinues. When a manufacturer discontinues an item, at store level we either sell through our stock or we have to send it back to the warehouse and put out the replacement (usually depends on the brand and replacement brand.)

Sometimes itll be close dated overstock, but a lot of places donate way close dated and unsellable food to food banks and soup kitchens since  they will be used before the date and not wasted.

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/16/2008 7:17:45 PM   
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my dad sells stuff to the close out and dollar stores i dont know how they get there food but i do know that evyerhitng is sold from a close out from them

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/16/2008 8:30:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: playfulotter

Well... my Dom told me about this Lawry's brand steak and grill seasoning he was in love with from that same company and he couldn't find it anywhere but had two more bottles as he bought it at a place he saw it at..so i called Lawry's and the woman on the phone told me it had been discontinued....but try some dollar stores


Now you know all of us pleasing-service subs are going to our dollar stores tomorrow at lunch and looking for that product.  You know that, RIGHT?  So is that the name of it or is there a certain flavor or something?

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/16/2008 9:04:00 PM   
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So most food stuff should be ok to eat?

I buy drinks from the dollar store on ocasion when shopping n we're thirsty.

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/16/2008 9:07:28 PM   
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Anyone who REALLY wants to please their SO will follow this recipe:

This is taken word for word from: http://www.recipezaar.com/75737

(HoneyMaster LOVES it, and I do too!)

Who ever said that marinades are only for flavor and not tenderizing has never tried this recipe! this marinade produces the most fabulous tasting beef and pork and tenderizes like nothing you have ever had before! I developed this recipe almost 20 years ago and still use it to this day, this works fabulous on a London Broil, it makes the best kabobs and pork tenderloins!--- the longer the meat marinades the more tender and juicy it will be, so plan ahead the meat needs to stay in the fridge for a minimum of 8 hours to 24 hours (even better if left for 24 hours!) the amounts listed are enough for 2 pounds beef or pork so you might want to double or even triple the ingredients, if I am doubling or tripling I usually cut back on the soy sauce and still only use 2-3 tablespoons fresh garlic, you can add in 1 teaspoon dry mustard powder also, the powdered meat tenderizer is only optional you do not have to use it this works great even without it! IMPORTANT - PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO LEAVE YOUR MEAT OUT ON THE COUNTER AND BRING TO ALMOST ROOM TEMPERATURE BEFORE COOKING, THIS WILL RELAX THE MEAT FIBERS AND CREATE A JUICIER AND MORE TENDER STEAK OR CUT OF BEEF ----------------- DO NOT substitute the honey for anything else except for maple syrup, using honey will produce the best marinade!
2 pounds meat (change servings and units)

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Ingredients

Directions

  1. 1In a large bowl combine all ingredients except the meat; mix/whisk until very well combined.

  2. 2You may now transfer the marinade to a large resealable plastic bag if desired or leave in a large bowl.

  3. 3Pierce the meat all over with a fork.

  4. 4Add the meat to the marinade then turn to coat.

  5. 5Refrigerate for at least 8 hours or overnight.

  6. 6Remove meat and discard the marinade.

  7. 7Leave the beef or the pork sit out on the counter and bring almost room temperature, this will relax the meat fibers and make for a more tender juicy steak or cut of beef or pork (this is a very important step!).

  8. 8Grill or oven-broil to desired doneness.


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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/16/2008 10:02:03 PM   
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I shop at Aldis AND Dollar Tree. Never had a prolem and the food is GREAT.Bought a box of 4 individually wrapped Sirloins. Cost 6.99 approx.2.00 a lb. Was the best Sirloins that Ive ever bougtht from a major grocery store. Their margarine I think is better than Country Crock. Have bought shrimp poppers from Dollar Tree and they were great. 

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/16/2008 10:54:42 PM   
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we shop dollar tree for the kids school supplies like pencils and such, 20 for a buck isn't bad.  the bags of individually wrapped candies were a good buy at halloween.  some of the stuff i use on a regular basis like the food storage dishes, baking pans for the bake sales i won't be upset to lose, cards for many occasions and so forth, all that can be had for a decent price.  when you're on a fixed income, it matters.  we usually have a list every month of things we'll need we can pick up there.
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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/17/2008 6:36:55 PM   
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I like to buy present wrapping supplies, and some paper supplies there. Very cool!

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/17/2008 6:57:05 PM   
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i buy a lot of stuff at the dollar store now, candles for my alter space and whatnot but to be honest dollar stores have always sort of scared me. i'm going to have to check out the food there now though. 

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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/18/2008 6:58:59 AM   
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After working in retail long enough, I happen to know that most dollar store fod is in one of 3 classes:
1. Warehouse overstock. If a purchaser got overzealous and overordered an item that didnt sell even close to expected, they cut their losses and unload it to a dollar store.
2. New packaging.  Those of us regular retail stores that have distribution deals with manufacturers ae required to remove old packaging when they redesign it. We had to pull and discard tons of soup cans with expired contest offers and things like that.
3. Company discontinues. When a manufacturer discontinues an item, at store level we either sell through our stock or we have to send it back to the warehouse and put out the replacement (usually depends on the brand and replacement brand.)

Sometimes itll be close dated overstock, but a lot of places donate way close dated and unsellable food to food banks and soup kitchens since  they will be used before the date and not wasted.

DV



This is actually the correct answer to your question yourhand.  The only thing you need to beware with dollar stores is the code date.  Much may be out of code.  Stay away from cookies as they usually don't have an open ended date but a julian date.  Julian dates are put there so the general public can't read when they went out of code.  Since cookies and crackers tend to have bugs...I'd just be safe and stay away.
A bit of factual retail knowledge, yes I've been a buyer and account manager in the past. 
Nobody competes for any space in any retail store.  Its all money..and lots of it.  Marketing and money.  It doesn't matter if you have the best selling product out there or not.  It's who offers you the most amount of money for your space.
For example...1 million for prime space which happens to be drop dead middle of the shelf.  Eye level to most consumers.
Half a million for the bottom rows and top...these are cheaper because people are too lazy to reach and bend. 
This is a cost for 1 row and 1 facing...which means...just one single unit you can see. 
Products come and go on a regular basis.  Most chain stores are set up on 6 month timetables.  Meaning the entire section gets a total overhaul every 6 months.  So the new can come in with the old..everything can be arranged by the money paid for it.
Very few products make it to store shelves without paying dearly.  Different chains charge different amounts of money for placement.  The larger the chain the larger the placement cost.  Take Kroger for example...primo prices.  A smaller chain like Stater Bros you can place a product for 5 grand.  Of course the price is for the entire chain...so if its a million a row you are buying it for every store...so its only a 1 million price tag and not 500 million because they have 500 stores.

Buy generic where you see it or even store brand.  Depending on the store and location...it is always a name brand product.  They may leave something out but it isn't going to ever be noticeable to you.  Stores don't manufacture their own anything. 

Damaged canned goods are good to eat as long as the end isn't bulging.  If it is..don't buy it..give it to someone in the store they need to throw it out.  In some instances you could open the can and actually find bugs inside.  More often than not though its just going to be spoiled whatever.

I agree with Termy on one point.  The spice aisle.  Spices are marked up the highest in the store.  It is the highest profit margin in any supermarket.  Some places as high as 80% profit.  Most everything else in the store ranges from 20-30% profit.  Many chains offer baby food at cost. 



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RE: Where do dollar stores get all their food from an w... - 6/18/2008 10:02:50 AM   
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Personally, I'm going to disagree on the "damaged canned goods".  Bulging ends are bad, yes.  But so is rusting or leaking.  If a can is dented and there is rust in the dent, that means that it is leaking. If the product can leak out, then bacteria and whatnot can grow inside.  A clean dent is fine, unless it is on a seam/join, and then I still don't trust it.

As far as generic/store brand... there are some products where there is a noticeable difference and others where there is none. Even if it is manufactured in the same plant as a name brand, they aren't using the same ingredients. 

Cali


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