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Ok, seriously? Is this needleplay idea realistic? - 6/16/2008 11:19:06 PM

Lynnxz

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Ok, I've never done any kind of serious needleplay, and I've been asked to do a scene with someone. I am a pro sub, if it bothers you... well no need to post here, mail me or something.
Anyway... this is wayyy more needles than I was expecting for this. I understand 27gauge needles are pretty thin- but still, inner thigh? Eep! And what's this weaving in and out mess, I am not a quilt... I'm afraid this guy is going to hit a vein or something with these "straight in for 2 inches" thing as well.

Does this sound legit? Does he sound like he at least has a grasp of whats going on, or is this a "I've watched too much porn lately" kind of thing? I'm always suspicious of those... that NEVER turns out well.

* 8 I' (4 in each breast) using inch and a half long 27 gauge needles ...these will be woven

*2 ( 1 in each nipple) 1 inch 27 gauge ...just in and out

*12 (6 in each inner thigh) using inch and a half long 27 gauge needles weavibg in and out

*4 (2 in each top of thigh) 1 inch long 25 gauge ....completely straight in

*40 (20 in each lower leg...calf area) 5/8 inch 27 and 29 gauge needles...all straight in and finally

*6 ( 3 per leg) 2 inch nedles 25 gauge completly in

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RE: Ok, seriously? Is this needleplay idea realistic? - 6/17/2008 4:43:14 AM

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Lynnxz,
Of course it would all depend upon his knowledge of anatomy, his skill level and your size. From your pic you don't look like a big girl and I would be concerned about the straight in ones as those lengths are certainly long enough to hit veins, arteries and tendons if they are not well placed.

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RE: Ok, seriously? Is this needleplay idea realistic? - 6/17/2008 12:06:30 PM

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I love needle play...and all of that does sound safe. The thighs are a good area to use because there so much mucle and tissue, not just a thin layer over a bone, like the front of the lower leg. Also, there's no major organs down there...so again, it's safe.

Weaving in and out means you get two pinches and pokes with each needle. IE: Think of basic needleplay here; pinch a piece of skin, run the needle through. THEN, double it; take another pinch next to the first and push the needle further. This will leave a gap of exposed needle with two areas of flesh on either side. You're just working with the skin here, just like basic needle play, but with a longer needle and double the pokes. You'll be fine, with just a bigger epineprine high per needle. ;)

Though after the first handful of needles, the epineprine will be to a level in your system that you probably wont feel much anymore. That's the trouble with needle play, the reactions are only good for the first handful of needles and then after that, if you're trying for more, you're kind of wasting supplies. LOL!

The straight in method should not present a problem unless he tries to poke you in the area of the inner thigh, where the major artery is located. Basic needleplay and weaving is safe in this zone, just not straight in. (BUT even if he does hit the artery, if the needle is pulled out and pressure is applied, it will stop bleeding with no real threat to your safety. A needle poke is easily repaired by the body. It's not like a knife wound to the artery.) So, for straight in, anywhere in the outer large muscle will work best but if he does move to the inner area, don't freak out 'cause it will be hard to seriously damage you with just a needle.

The only other issue might be, hitting a bone with one of those 2 inch needles, if he picks a spot that isn't as deep as he thought...but that is only an issue if you have really thin legs AND he has poor spacial skills.

So, unless he's really not skilled, or plain old stupid, it all looks safe.

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RE: Ok, seriously? Is this needleplay idea realistic? - 6/17/2008 5:34:53 PM

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If doctors can slam a needle straight into the heart for some medical conditions needles shoved through any thing else is just play.

(Oh and for those who say doctors are trained experts should really look at how many lawsuit for malpractice there are please note the word practice)

PS I have had a apadravia (spl) and also had needle play in my testicles both were very interesting to say the least.

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RE: Ok, seriously? Is this needleplay idea realistic? - 6/18/2008 12:17:00 PM

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I, personally, wouldn't allow anyone to stick needles in me (perpendicular to the skin - straight in) that are longer than 3/4 of an inch, especially where they could injure large veins. Yes, I realize people do it all the time for vaccinations and insulin injections, but the shafts of those needles are shorter than the 2 inch needles this guy is talking about. But, it all boils down to what you're comfortable with, and how much you trust this guy. From your initial post, it doesn't seem like you're too sure.

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RE: Ok, seriously? Is this needleplay idea realistic? - 6/18/2008 8:14:08 PM

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Lynnxz, Do you mind if I ask..how do you charge as a pro sub for needle play? is it per needle? or..time? I have a friend who is into extreme pain, and would allow a couple to cut his testicles. He "charged" an amount for a small cut, more for deeper. One night, he "dared" them to go deeper, and he ended up in emergency surgery because an artery was cut. The couple paid for all of his bills in cash.

If you are not comfortable with the needle play, just say no and walk away.

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RE: Ok, seriously? Is this needleplay idea realistic? - 6/18/2008 8:16:50 PM

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I'm quoting a serious play-piercer here. This is an informed but not medical opinion. YMMV.

> I know people who do needles like that, but the straight-in
> ones,
> personally, I will not do. I don't like the risk of
> hitting a nerve or
> big artery, and even a surgeon doesn't know where they
> are without
> looking--there's individual detailed differences in
> placement of anything
> but the very largest.
>
> She's likely to get a hematoma or three from the deep
> ones.
>
> None of this is life-threatening, but how much is she
> getting paid? Some
> of those big painful lumps could take weeks to go away. If
> they're closer
> to the skin, same for big vivid bruises.
>
> What he calls "weaving" sounds like surface-layer
> playpiercings, where you
> can see the veins and avoid them-assuming this clown even
> cares.
>
> Tell her that I love playpiercing, that I have taken
> thousands of needles
> and given tens of thousands of them (not all in one
> session, needless to
> say!) and I wouldn't bottom for the scene she
> describes. Some of those
> are going all the way to the bone!
>
> Also, surface-level playpiercings have almost no risk of
> infection. They
> only go part-way through the body's defensive layers of
> skin, and get lots
> of light and oxygen because they are so shallow. Deep ones
> are a very
> different kettle of fish, and IMHO would call for sterile,
> not just clean
> conditions. (Sterile as in medically so, difficult to
> achieve in the
> average play situation.)
>
> Hope this is useful. If I were her, I'd give this one
> a bye.

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RE: Ok, seriously? Is this needleplay idea realistic? - 6/18/2008 9:26:52 PM

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Ditto DelilahDeb.
Also if she has no experience with needles she may not get past needle one, never mind the weaving.

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RE: Ok, seriously? Is this needleplay idea realistic? - 6/18/2008 11:00:18 PM

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Deb very well said .. I would also add , have you seen this person perform needle play of anykind or just taking this person at their word that they know what they are doing . Is the risk worth it ?

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ORIGINAL: DelilahDeb

I'm quoting a serious play-piercer here. This is an informed but not medical opinion. YMMV.

> I know people who do needles like that, but the straight-in
> ones,
> personally, I will not do. I don't like the risk of
> hitting a nerve or
> big artery, and even a surgeon doesn't know where they
> are without
> looking--there's individual detailed differences in
> placement of anything
> but the very largest.
>
> She's likely to get a hematoma or three from the deep
> ones.
>
> None of this is life-threatening, but how much is she
> getting paid? Some
> of those big painful lumps could take weeks to go away. If
> they're closer
> to the skin, same for big vivid bruises.
>
> What he calls "weaving" sounds like surface-layer
> playpiercings, where you
> can see the veins and avoid them-assuming this clown even
> cares.
>
> Tell her that I love playpiercing, that I have taken
> thousands of needles
> and given tens of thousands of them (not all in one
> session, needless to
> say!) and I wouldn't bottom for the scene she
> describes. Some of those
> are going all the way to the bone!
>
> Also, surface-level playpiercings have almost no risk of
> infection. They
> only go part-way through the body's defensive layers of
> skin, and get lots
> of light and oxygen because they are so shallow. Deep ones
> are a very
> different kettle of fish, and IMHO would call for sterile,
> not just clean
> conditions. (Sterile as in medically so, difficult to
> achieve in the
> average play situation.)
>
> Hope this is useful. If I were her, I'd give this one
> a bye.

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RE: Ok, seriously? Is this needleplay idea realistic? - 6/19/2008 12:28:27 AM

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Tyvm Delilah :) I really do appreciate you asking him for me by the way.

I'm going to pass on this session- especially since I was only offered 300 >.> Huge blotchy hematomas on my legs for weeks... going to force me to wear thighhighs for the duration or something... I'll pass.. too hot for that.

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RE: Ok, seriously? Is this needleplay idea realistic? - 6/19/2008 2:43:56 PM

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think it looks well prepared to me...may i suggest to look at at him performing with somone else at first, to see how he handles things
than you can judge by yourself if your trust him to perform on you

and for the arteries.. i give blood every few months... the needle they poke in my vein is a bit larger then 27 gauge yet if pulled out it hardly bleeds and closes up in 15 minutes or so after pressed close for les than a minute

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RE: Ok, seriously? Is this needleplay idea realistic? - 6/19/2008 10:32:54 PM

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very wise call and glad you made that one too

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Tyvm Delilah :) I really do appreciate you asking him for me by the way.

I'm going to pass on this session- especially since I was only offered 300 >.> Huge blotchy hematomas on my legs for weeks... going to force me to wear thighhighs for the duration or something... I'll pass.. too hot for that.

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