sunshinemiss
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Hi everybody,
There is s a certain truth to what was said. Sometimes one wants serious conversation... and sometimes banter... Don't we all understand the desire for both? And CM does tend toward the fun and bantery sides of things. But what is impressive is that funny people are some of the smartest people around. Ever heard a comedien talk about politics? the economy? religion even... And I don't mean do a routine, I mean have an actual talk... Bill Maher comes to mind... He's funny and wicked smart. George Carlin. Bill Cosby. Chris Rock.
Honestly, I don't know a whole lot. The more I live, the dumber I get, or maybe the rest of the world is getting smarter. But life is more joyful now too. A belly laugh will beat out a philosophical conversation any day over here. Mostly because belly laughs require a certain vision, understanding of the human condition, joining of disparate themes... in a word - intelligence.... to create that response.
After years living abroad where I couldn't have in depth conversations, (because those around me didn't have the tools - the words - to verbally spar), I feel my brain atrophying somewhat. I would love to go toe to toe with someone occasionally. I recently posted on the slave girl thread on the gorean board (passes smelling salts around), and Aswad responded... I can't tell you how I shook. He's wicked smart, sees patterns that would never have occured to me, and is deeply well read. I adore that in a man and respect him immmensely. Just responding to his words were like flicking rust off my poor unused brain. But bless my soul, I think I responded intelligently.
Now the intellectual snobbery part... that's just ... well not my cup of tea shall we say. If you've never read the piece "Desiderata", let me give you a quote that seems relevant:
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant, they too have their story.
But we all have snobbery. It's normal. It's natural to put people in us versus them categories. Is that not really what snobbery is? Very few people don't do that. I have a snobbery against deliciously beautiful women and mouthwateringly handsome men. I am part jealous and I'm part prejudiced having been brought up to believe it's impossible to be gorgeous and smart at the same time (I know it's wrong, but it's still my knee jerk reaction, and I fight it all the time). These boards have been a salve to that old teaching and constantly help me realize that beauty and brains really can go hand in hand. And I tip my hat to you beautiful women and handsome men who show it over and over.
The other thing I think about is finding the balance between being a subly type and not arguing with the Domly types... that's not submitting after all... and yet I'm often at least as smart as they are. I don't say this is true for other s-types, but for me... I find it difficult at times to stand up to the Domlys and put my full intelligence out there. I dumb it down for them so as not to hurt their feelings... so as to make them feel good... and yet that's silly. But it is something I'm working on... feelings and intellect and submission all wrapped up into one. Talking smarter than they do, living more passionately, being more worldly ... these are sometimes intimidating for me as an S-type. How to be pleasing and be Enter Superlative Here... But they are my truth... as are the fact that i'm an average gal... in many many ways and below average in others. Aren't we all?
So, to the OP (wherever you went) good luck... may you find what you seek. To all here,
peace and passion,
sunshine
Desiderata
Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant, they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let not this blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore, be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams; it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful.
Strive to be happy.
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