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Alumbrado -> RE: a question for Christians (6/18/2008 1:40:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Thanks. I found a Quaker church and it's within the city limits.

Just so you're aware Quaker's tend to use some odd terms in conversation. It's all pretty obvious once you've heard it a couple of times but  be prepared to not understand precisely what is going on at times.


One purpose of the plain speech and dress was to get away from the elaborate affectations of English society at the time.

Many Quakers today continue to dress simply and speak plainly without dressing or talking like a character in a movie.
Thee and Thou and special garb are not seen as a current mandate of the simplicity testimony, so they adopt 'regular' clothes and speech.

A small but apparently growing number (some of them 'convinced', i.e. converts) have decided that historical re-enactment is how they will choose to express their outward show of faith.

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MissSepphora1 -> RE: a question for Christians (6/18/2008 2:59:44 PM)

I am a recent Catholic convert.

The mass is filled many times with the saying, "The peace of the Lord be with you all," which is responded to with "And also with you."

There is NO hellfire and damnation, and a lot of the mass is about Christ's forgiveness and love, how he came for sinners, not for aristocrats. 




daddysliloneds -> RE: a question for Christians (6/18/2008 3:14:45 PM)

not to say i am one, cuz i'm not, but i do know for sure that mormans don't believe in hell; they believe, in their words, 'outer darkness' and it's various stages...

and you know, these morman boys come to my house weekly and i got to tell you, they are some of the nicest people i've met, save for the jehovah's witnesses that came knocking on my door when my son was an infant...

they were so helpful, that they even stayed with my sick kid, who had gotten one contagious disease after another, while he had chicken-pox, just so i could make a trip to the grocery store, and they  all seemed to practice what they preached!




MusicalBoredom -> RE: a question for Christians (6/18/2008 3:38:24 PM)

I love it when I see that as well -- people living withing their own moral code even when they have to work to do so.  I have met a lot of religious people that do that I just tend to forget the good when I see the bad sometimes.  I guess I have prejudices that I wish I didn't have.




MissSepphora1 -> RE: a question for Christians (6/18/2008 3:42:00 PM)

wow, you are one crazy woman.
i wonder what would have happened if you'd came home from the grocery store to find your kid gone.

not that i'm hijacking the thread, but this was just too outlandish not to comment.

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ORIGINAL: daddysliloneds

not to say i am one, cuz i'm not, but i do know for sure that mormans don't believe in hell; they believe, in their words, 'outer darkness' and it's various stages...

and you know, these morman boys come to my house weekly and i got to tell you, they are some of the nicest people i've met, save for the jehovah's witnesses that came knocking on my door when my son was an infant...

they were so helpful, that they even stayed with my sick kid, who had gotten one contagious disease after another, while he had chicken-pox, just so i could make a trip to the grocery store, and they  all seemed to practive what they preached!






daddysliloneds -> RE: a question for Christians (6/18/2008 3:47:46 PM)

 

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

wow, you are one crazy woman.
i wonder what would have happened if you'd came home from the grocery store to find your kid gone.

not that i'm hijacking the thread, but this was just too outlandish not to comment.

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ORIGINAL: daddysliloneds

not to say i am one, cuz i'm not, but i do know for sure that mormans don't believe in hell; they believe, in their words, 'outer darkness' and it's various stages...

and you know, these morman boys come to my house weekly and i got to tell you, they are some of the nicest people i've met, save for the jehovah's witnesses that came knocking on my door when my son was an infant...

they were so helpful, that they even stayed with my sick kid, who had gotten one contagious disease after another, while he had chicken-pox, just so i could make a trip to the grocery store, and they  all seemed to practive what they preached!


oh sure, they try to take my kid while i have their car and the landlord is outside my front door making sure they don't go anywhere; for fucks sake, you do make BIG and STUPID assumptions!!!!!!!!!!!!!




MissSepphora1 -> RE: a question for Christians (6/18/2008 4:32:22 PM)

If the landlord was outside the front door, why not just let the landlord sit with the kid?

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ORIGINAL: daddysliloneds



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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

wow, you are one crazy woman.
i wonder what would have happened if you'd came home from the grocery store to find your kid gone.

not that i'm hijacking the thread, but this was just too outlandish not to comment.

quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysliloneds

not to say i am one, cuz i'm not, but i do know for sure that mormans don't believe in hell; they believe, in their words, 'outer darkness' and it's various stages...

and you know, these morman boys come to my house weekly and i got to tell you, they are some of the nicest people i've met, save for the jehovah's witnesses that came knocking on my door when my son was an infant...

they were so helpful, that they even stayed with my sick kid, who had gotten one contagious disease after another, while he had chicken-pox, just so i could make a trip to the grocery store, and they  all seemed to practive what they preached!


oh sure, they try to take my kid while i have their car and the landlord is outside my front door making sure they don't go anywhere; for fucks sake, you do make BIG and STUPID assumptions!!!!!!!!!!!!!




daddysliloneds -> RE: a question for Christians (6/18/2008 5:51:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

If the landlord was outside the front door, why not just let the landlord sit with the kid?


not that i owe every dip-shit that comes along an explanation, and not to hi-jack this thread, but did you ever think that he never had the chicken pox and didn't want to get them?  well, duh!!!![8|]

and with that said, you can sit here and post as many stupid questions to me as you like on this thread but they'll go un-responded to; i have better things to do than waste my time with someone that doesn't have a clue...

things like, going and doing something nice for someone, just because i can[:D]




christine1 -> RE: a question for Christians (6/18/2008 6:29:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

wow, you are one crazy woman.
i wonder what would have happened if you'd came home from the grocery store to find your kid gone.

not that i'm hijacking the thread, but this was just too outlandish not to comment.



um,  it's not like she left her kid with 2 strangers off the street. 




dcnovice -> RE: a question for Christians (6/18/2008 6:58:02 PM)

Depending on where you are in the country, Episcopalians can be pretty progressive.




GreedyTop -> RE: a question for Christians (6/18/2008 7:23:02 PM)

yep.. I was raised Episcopalian.  Depending on the given church (as someone said, it can vary according to the pastor/congregation), they tend to be an accepting crowd (after all..don't we have an openly gay bishop?? *yay!*).  I could be wrong, but I think the Epopsicles (as I affectionately call them) were also the first to fully ordain women.




JulieorSarah -> RE: a question for Christians (6/19/2008 12:46:38 AM)

it really does depend on the congregation, rather than the denomination ... raised a Roman Catholic until about 14, then to a Presbyterian boarding school, that during my education, the school became part of the then new Uniting Church.  I attended a range of RC and Protestant services all over Regional australia while on visits with class mates ... the difference was huge.  Yet it was the attitude of the officiating clergy, that either made it or not.  Hellfire and you'll be damned to treat others as you would be treated and whatever inbetween was found in every denomination i experienced.  I look for tolerance and acceptance.




JohnSteed1967 -> RE: a question for Christians (6/19/2008 7:38:11 AM)

I am not familar with the brethern but If you find an OLD Southern Baptist Church before the conservitves took over and still goes by the 1963 Baptist Faith and message and not that crap that was cobbled together by the ultra right wing. The I recommend this church whole heartedly.

That is why I refuse to go back to Church is because that the Conservatives have now tried to make the church in their image and not in God's.




JohnSteed1967 -> RE: a question for Christians (6/19/2008 7:40:05 AM)

and if you can find a SBC church that still believes in the 1925 Baptist faith and message. Let me know I will Join!




lronitulstahp -> RE: a question for Christians (6/19/2008 7:40:34 AM)

Just a small heads up on the Southern Baptist church visit...don't bring along an interracial date...apparently it's a sin.[8|]




JohnSteed1967 -> RE: a question for Christians (6/19/2008 7:41:58 AM)

from the  1925 Faith and message :
 
"19. PEACE AND WAR 
It is the duty of Christians to seek peace with all men on principles of righteousness. In accordance with the spirit and teachings of Christ they should do all in their power to put an end to war. 

The true remedy for the war spirit is the pure gospel of our Lord. The supreme need of the world is the acceptance of his teachings in all the affairs of men and nations, and the practical application of his law of love. 

We urge Christian people throughout the world to pray for the reign of the Prince of Peace, and to oppose everything likely to provoke war.  "





JohnSteed1967 -> RE: a question for Christians (6/19/2008 7:43:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

Just a small heads up on the Southern Baptist church visit...don't bring along an interracial date...apparently it's a sin.[8|]


Nope, that's just some of the church's, But don't tell them that your Catholic, you'll be condemed to hell!




DomKen -> RE: a question for Christians (6/19/2008 7:51:53 AM)

Funny but sad fact, Baptists were once a major impetus behind Church State seperation. Jefferson's famous "Wall of seperation" quote is from a letter he wrote to a Baptist congregation that was concerned the First Ammendment didn't go far enough.

I've heard claims that some liberal Baptist churches still exist but I don't know of any directly.




lronitulstahp -> RE: a question for Christians (6/19/2008 7:53:54 AM)

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 The supreme need of the world is the acceptance of his teachings in all the affairs of men and nations, and the practical application of his law of love.  
See, this is the source of many a problem through the ages...i am a Christian, but i think if someone doesn't feel they need Christ...who am i to say he does, and force my point across?  i don't feel my religion belongs in the running of nations any more than anyone else's.  Faith and belief are personal, based on the individual...but when it's called for in the governing of millions...i call that a theocracy, and Christian or no, that ain't my bag.




kittinSol -> RE: a question for Christians (6/19/2008 7:56:21 AM)

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