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The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 8:15:13 AM   
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So, these are the subsidiaries of Time Warner. What directly influences CNN stems from the board of directors . One of the most interesting people is Kenneth J. Novack . I am particularly impressed with his involvement in General Catalyst Partners . This company invests in Prematics where he also sits on the board of directors. General Catalyst Partners also invests in BBN Technologies . Novack also is on the board of directors. That link will show news articles of the amount of money awarded to BBN Technologies from the government. However, they were also awarded monies on June 3 and June 16. That information is at the DoD website. He is also on the board of directors at Appleton Partners, Inc. and Paratek Pharmaceuticals, Inc. He is on the board of advisors for the Gordon Brothers Group.
Another interesting fellow is James L. Barksdale . He is on the board of directors for Sun Microsystems. Note that Sun Federal is a wholly owned subsidiary. But here is a quick look at their associations.  He is a special advisor to Kleiner Perkins Caufield and Byers. Guess who is also there? Al Gore and Colin Powell. KPCB invests in Sun Microsystems. Here is another nifty fact. James Barksdale is on the Board of Trustees at In-Q-Tel . If you look under Technology Portfolio, you will again run into BBN Technologies.
This is not a complete works on these two men nor does it include the 11 others. I do think it is noteworthy to state that Time Warner/CNN is not liberal by any means. It is ludicrous to suggest it. Its actually quite conservative.  What constitutes as news will be short on facts and slanted. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Doncha think? 
 
Edited for grammer, but I lost it.

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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 8:38:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bethnai, you should watch The Lou Dobbs Show on CNN.
He is constantly lambasting big business and our do-nothing government!
But, he's against illegal immigration so some people in big business and special interest groups who want cheap labor or don't think we should enforce our immigration laws don't like him.

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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 8:47:13 AM   
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The supreme thing that any established corporate media outlet is concerned with is profit.
And there is no profit in writing that everything is 'jes fine'.

Profitable media has to stir up conflict, agitate, sensationalize, be contrarian, fabricate, polarize and dissemble in pursuit of that profit.

...the mistake comes in not realizing that the powers that be have set up a facade of 'right' versus 'left', pseudo conservative versus pseudo liberal, Dem versus Repub, us versus them, so that people will be too invested in taking sides to notice that 'they' are all 'that man behind the curtain'.... and the media supports that facade and maintains the distraction.

Critical thinking is just as much an anathema to the media as it is to politicians, which is why both groups depend on a populace that is a product of not only the anti-logic educational system, but an overall dumbed down society.

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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 9:02:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		CNN is biased. I think practically every reporter on there is pro-Obama and that is more than obvious. Wolf Blitzer, Jeffrey Toobin, and Jack Caferty may as well work for the Obama campaign.

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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 9:44:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Alumbrado, I actually have his book and I do agree its a facade. Its why I try to stay out of half the debates here that begin and end in that arena. I have also used from that book, and I think I have the 9th or 10th edition,  that there are less than 2000 independant media sources and the criteria is set at one publication a year.

I read the other day a post  (I don't remember who said it or where it is) that had a comment on the liberal media.  I could have dug out his book and quoted him or put it together and backed it up so it was easier to see.  I think that once we start looking at who is involved in what and the cash involved, investment firms and money awarded from the DoD + our foreign policy= a real conservative streak.  I agree it is all designed for people to look at the nice shiny objects and then not pay attention to what is really going on. 

Popeye, I have seen him. I don't like someone to attempt to interpret what is going on. Although, I have been known to drink a pot of coffee and carry on a conversation with the tv. 

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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 10:26:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Most media has a pro-corporate slant.

Take away sports(which is apolitical,for now) and the 2nd bigest news/media opperation is business/financial news.Just look at the amount of resourses that are used.

Wallstreet Week,The Nightly Business, Report,Kudlow & Cramer,Money Line, Mad Money and Fast Money,The Suze Orman Show,CNBC,..the list goes on.

Every News show has a financial spot or segment.Every news paper has a business/finance section.Not to mention the Wall Street Journal,Financial Times,etc.etc.

None of those shows or programs lean left.



It would be nice if there was an "Environment Week" or a "Civil Rights Progress Report".Then you could say there was a liberal bias.


Fox news in the media arm of the RNC and we know what their bias is.Glen Beck on CNN plays the token neo-con but otherwise it`s full of shallow sexy story hunting cunts.Larry King doesn`t know what time it is.


Other than Oberman,there really isn`t a liberal leaning program on the rest of the dial.

I defy anyone to show a liberal bias in the main stream media.A liberal bias,in the way FoxNews has a right-wing bias.

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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 10:36:40 AM   
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I am so going to steal that line.

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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 10:40:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

CNN is biased. I think practically every reporter on there is pro-Obama and that is more than obvious. Wolf Blitzer, Jeffrey Toobin, and Jack Caferty may as well work for the Obama campaign.

That's pretty funny. Watch FauxNews, who on their doesn't sound like they work for McCain?

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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 10:41:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Owner, I don't want News shows to have any "slant."
I just want them to report the News!

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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 10:52:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

I just want them to report the News!



If you don't like the way the news are presented to you, you have a few options available to you. You could consult the opposite side (say, if you usually listen to Fox, start reading the Guardian, for example. Or The Economist). You could quit watching televised news altogether (it's a dying beast anyway). Or... *drum roll*... You could do the reporting yourself, thus providing us all with beautifully neutral, unbiased news stories  .

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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 10:56:35 AM   
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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 11:49:05 AM   
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That is what everyone wants. 

That's not possible. At some point someone decides what stories to publish/air and some of those decisions are not going to make everyone happy no matter what.

Is there really any need to report on the grisly car accident that happened at an off peak travel period and caused no serious disruptions for most people? Or do you satisfy the voyeuristic impulses of the people who watch 'if it bleeds it leads' newscasts around the country.

If each newscast includes at least on story about violent criminal activity will that skew the viewers beliefs that violent crime is rampant? Or does the public have a right to know the details of the most recent gun battle no matter what?

Simply deciding what is or isn't news introduces inescapable bias. What is really important is having multiple independent sources so that no one filter can hide what is actually going on.

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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 3:44:38 PM   
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Owner, I don't want News shows to have any "slant."
I just want them to report the News!

That is the ideal, but it's a practical impossibility.

Someone has to write the story, then air the story--including deciding whether it comes first second or third. The human element in each phase of the process will inevitably color the end result.

The way to combat the inevitable distortions and bias in any one source is to pull news from a multiple of independent sources.

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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 4:26:40 PM   
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Is there really any need to report on the grisly car accident that happened at an off peak travel period and caused no serious disruptions for most people? Or do you satisfy the voyeuristic impulses of the people who watch 'if it bleeds it leads' newscasts around the country.

If each newscast includes at least on story about violent criminal activity will that skew the viewers beliefs that violent crime is rampant? Or does the public have a right to know the details of the most recent gun battle no matter what?

Simply deciding what is or isn't news introduces inescapable bias. What is really important is having multiple independent sources so that no one filter can hide what is actually going on.


There was a major news outlet in Florida a while back, that decided to abandon the 'If It Bleeds It Leads' creed, and start with positive uplifting stories.... in short order they weren't a major outlet any more.

The 'gawking at the car wreck' impulse dictates the media's profitability bias.

In practice, pandering to that bias produces an effect...
A rusty 5 shot almost obsolete revolver becomes an 'assault pistol' in the hands of skilled journalists. a woman who escapes being raped 'took the law into her own hands', crackpot theories become 'many believe that...', established scientific fact is 'controversial', and non-stories are 'in the public interest'.

And the slippery slope then dictates that rape vicitims names, pictures and personal information be splashed across the headlines, military troops planned maneuvers be scratched out on the sand for TV broadcast,  news helicopters fly over police officers waiting outside robber's hold outs to show exactly when the officers are most exposed to being fired upon from inside, non-existent massacres be supported by close cropped photos, hurricanes that swerve and miss major urban aread be deemed 'killer' and 'a devastating hit', and imaginary 8 year old heroin addicts and imaginary National Guard memos become leading articles.

So the bias is there... the fact that any side of an issue can find fodder for their own biases, shouldn't distract anyone into thinking that the media gives a damn about any side except the bottom line.

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RE: The Time Warner/CNN Slant - 6/23/2008 10:41:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am merely stating that what we want is objectiveness. You don't have multiple independent resources that are drawn from on a daily basis.  Again, less then 2000 independent media sources, with the criteria being one publication a year.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Look, Frontline is considered to be "investigative journalism". That is on PBS. Take a look at where they get their funding. I did the work prior to this, you can do this one on your own if you so desire. Now, if funding is provided by the US Army, I'm thinking that investigation is not going to be done anywhere close to the army unless its portrayed exactly the way the Army says it should be. Pew Trust Fund (Sun Oil Co.) might fund or any other oil company and any amount of information can be investigated as long as the oil companies aren't regarded as a cause to whatever problem might have been or is going on. Same for CNN. 

Me, personally, I could give a damn about local news. I don't want to turn on my tv and see a bunch of local crap. I don't want to see the newest fashions, or the best gifts to buy for whatever, and I don't want to see some drummed up poll or the side glances or ignorant side comments.  I pick up the local paper every now and again. I refuse to get a subscription because they don't carry enough international news and while there are those that firmly believe that all life centers around high school football and softball. I do not. 










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