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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 7:02:17 AM   
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I'm alone in my home tonight for the first time in seven and a half years and I'm sleeping with a loaded 38 next to my bed. 
And I have a dog. 


That's hot....


What exactly do you find hot about the fact that we live in a society where a woman alone feels so vulnerable that there is a need for a gun and a dog to get a decent night's sleep?


My guess is, he was making a joke. I am going on 49 and have lived alone off and on for most of my life. I have never felt the need for a gun to get a decent night's sleep. I do think it is sad that someone would though.

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 7:16:26 AM   
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I'm alone in my home tonight for the first time in seven and a half years and I'm sleeping with a loaded 38 next to my bed. 
And I have a dog. 


That's hot....


What exactly do you find hot about the fact that we live in a society where a woman alone feels so vulnerable that there is a need for a gun and a dog to get a decent night's sleep?


My guess is, he was making a joke. I am going on 49 and have lived alone off and on for most of my life. I have never felt the need for a gun to get a decent night's sleep. I do think it is sad that someone would though.


He was making a joke.  I don't "need" a gun to sleep soundly.  It's nice to have when you live in an area that doesn't have a police force and you must rely on the State Police.  Their response time, just because of the distances they patrol, is generally around fifteen minutes.  A lot can happen in fifteen minutes.  I choose to be responsible for my own well being.  By time the police showed up they'd either be cleaning up my body or that of the intruders.  I'd prefer it to be the intruders that were on the floor.

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 7:20:31 AM   
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I choose to be responsible for my own well being.


YEA!!!!!!!



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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 7:22:20 AM   
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Personally, I think it's a tragedy. Oh well, business as usual.


So says the person with the gun toting avatar.

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 7:25:24 AM   
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Personally, I think it's a tragedy. Oh well, business as usual.


So says the person with the gun toting avatar.



Heh.  Cartoon bullets bounce.

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 7:26:09 AM   
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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 7:39:22 AM   
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So let me get this straight the idiot moron cops that you worked with for 19 years are afraid that suddenly the law abiding citizen with the good references, clean criminal records, clean mental health records, no restraining orders or domestic violence history, no substance abuse history, safety class etc is going to become confused and think that their CCW permit is a hunting license for cops??? These people who are otherwise pillars of the community, and found to be exempt from even the Brady Law waiting period, are going to suddenly go beserk on a cop killing rampage?

Gimme a fucking break. If they are that scared, they can turn in their badges and let someone who actually has a pair do the job for them.


That's a heck of a straw man you set up there. 

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 7:43:41 AM   
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You said it was 'the law of the land',which is not an idle phrase...prior to this, the DC ordinance had no bearing on the rest of the country, so please tell us exactly which law of the land was overturned...if there wasn't one, then you were simply wrong to keep saying that there was.


I never said that the law of the land was overturned.  The 2nd Amendment is the law of the land.  Up until 2 days ago, the 2nd Amendment was interpreted by SCOTUS as granting a collective right, not an individual right.  I am not wrong in saying that - it is a fact.  When I posted to the other thread that this was not an individual right, that was the interpretation that we were operating under.  The 2nd Amendment is still the law of the land, but it's interpreted differently now. 

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The Supreme Court ruling does not create new problems for law enforcement.


I hope you're right, but I don't know that and neither do you.  We'll have to wait and see.

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 8:27:02 AM   
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I never said that the law of the land was overturned.  The 2nd Amendment is the law of the land.  Up until 2 days ago, the 2nd Amendment was interpreted by SCOTUS as granting a collective right, not an individual right.  I am not wrong in saying that - it is a fact.  When I posted to the other thread that this was not an individual right, that was the interpretation that we were operating under.  The 2nd Amendment is still the law of the land, but it's interpreted differently now. 



            More utter nonsense, Gigs.  Where are you coming up with this stuff?  The Supreme Court had never ruled anything of the sort.  This was the first time they looked directly at the issue.  This notion that guns were a collective, not individual right, is a fairly recent claim by those who find the Constitution damned inconvenient to their ideas of what is best for us.

       

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 8:54:55 AM   
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We're all  centrists... in our own minds.


Not me.  I'm and extreme moderate.

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 9:10:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's funny, the people in here with a "liberal" bent seem to want "Big Brother" telling them (and everyone else) what to do on this subject yet they rale against the "Patriot Act" something you'd think they'd like!
They seem to think that it's neccessary to get "permission" from, ..."the government" before doing something.

"I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Their candidate, Obama has already flip-flopped on the issue from a year ago.
Do you know how I can tell that Obama is going to lose in November?
The people in "Hollywood", Calif  like him.

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 9:12:41 AM   
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I'm alone in my home tonight for the first time in seven and a half years and I'm sleeping with a loaded 38 next to my bed. 
And I have a dog. 


That's hot....


What exactly do you find hot about the fact that we live in a society where a woman alone feels so vulnerable that there is a need for a gun and a dog to get a decent night's sleep?


Take society's ills out of it.......Chicks with guns are hot........Hot chicks with guns are reeeeeeaaally hot.......

Today's "society" is a safer society that any civilized societies in history.  A woman alone for a night in the United States today is safer than she ever would have been in past "societies".

I'm not going to say the word "society" again until November......


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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 9:18:51 AM   
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So says the person with the gun toting avatar.



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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 9:22:47 AM   
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So let me get this straight the idiot moron cops that you worked with for 19 years are afraid that suddenly the law abiding citizen with the good references, clean criminal records, clean mental health records, no restraining orders or domestic violence history, no substance abuse history, safety class etc is going to become confused and think that their CCW permit is a hunting license for cops??? These people who are otherwise pillars of the community, and found to be exempt from even the Brady Law waiting period, are going to suddenly go beserk on a cop killing rampage?

Gimme a fucking break. If they are that scared, they can turn in their badges and let someone who actually has a pair do the job for them.


That's a heck of a straw man you set up there. 



How is that a straw man? I have CCW permits in serveral states. In each and every one of them they checked for restraining orders / domestic violence / substance abuse / mental illness / or criminal histories. In New York I also had to have an interview with a court approved psychologist and an appearance before the issuing judge. In Texas I had to demonstrate proficiency with a handgun. My criminal, military, and mental health records were reviewed. My fingerprints were run through the FBI as well as state and local databases. They give the licenses to people who are not threats to public safety!

So, if your cops that you have worked with for 19 years are scared that they are going to be shot by the law abiding citizens who passed the CCW process, they lack both the brains and the balls to be on the job. In case they didnt get the memo - police frequently meet criminals. Dangerous scary frightening criminals. The CCW holders who scare them are responsible law abiding citizens who have been investigated, found not to be criminals,  and deemed safe....

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 9:23:31 AM   
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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 9:28:18 AM   
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It's funny, the people in here with a "liberal" bent seem to want "Big Brother" telling them (and everyone else) what to do on this subject yet they rail against the "Patriot Act" something you'd think they'd like!


What an excellent point.

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 9:31:25 AM   
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It's funny, the people in here with a "liberal" bent seem to want "Big Brother" telling them (and everyone else) what to do on this subject yet they rail against the "Patriot Act" something you'd think they'd like!


What an excellent point.


As excellent as the point that it's bizarre how Patriot Act lovers profess to hate all government intervention, yet welcome it when the government sticks its nose in their most intimate matters?

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 9:40:34 AM   
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As excellent as the point that it's bizarre how Patriot Act lovers profess to hate all government intervention, yet welcome it when the government sticks its nose in their most intimate matters?


Liberals have always been supportive of peoples' rights - just as long as you belong to one of their pet groups. Abortion, gay marriage, affirmative action - yep, they're all for that. They want the government to keep their noses out of it. Gun control? Well... that's a different story.

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 9:50:39 AM   
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Liberals have always been supportive of peoples' rights <snip>.



This word 'liberals' makes me scream with laughter... but tell me, do you mean that the other side, the 'conservative' side, doesn't support people's rights?

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 9:53:17 AM   
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Oh, no - the irony doesn't escape us. In fact, that's exactly what we've been commenting on!

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It's called irony, obviously something desperately hard to understand for die-hard gun fans :-) .


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