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candystripper -> RE: Naughty act (11/10/2005 9:18:24 AM)
quote: But then Mercnbeth are honest enough to admit their hatred of lawyers arises from a lawsuit they are engaged in which has cost them six figures to defend. candystripper quote: You mentioned this twice. Once was too much. Maybe it's to save face, but it's wrong. I really tried to let this die, but I won't let my position be misrepresented. I hate no one. I hate the industry of lawsuits. The actions of lawyers have ruined the image of professionalism that lawyers had. The lawsuit and my attorney's inept handling was anecdotal reference. It's the actions and activities that generated, not hatred, but disrespect. Working for me, if you related that story of how you "won" the case, I would have been pleased with the result for pragmatic reasons, but I would have never considered having you represent me again. I would much rather have paid the six figures than be forced to rationalize my attorney exposing herself while representing me. To be as clear as possible, that would hold even if the attorney was doing so "Pro Bono". I am cursed with a mind that analyzes what I read and see differently then most. And when I do I'm compelled to point it out. Other than the "for instances" that I've already covered. Here's another...Why are woman considered a minority and deserving of special EEO/AA consideration in colleges and in the work force if they represent more than 50% of the population? Former prejudice you say? Then why do woman represent over 50% of the students in colleges, more than 50% of the grad students, more than 50% of the students attending med school, and over 60% of the people attending law school? The answer isn't important. Does pointing this out indicate that I hate women? NO - it's pointing out fact. Since you've continued to try to spin this, I'll pose one other question. When you originally posted this you noted that your general counsel wondered and asked; "what happened"... quote: Mercnbeth quote: Later my general counsel would ask "what happened?" and i'd look innocent and say "i dunno...they just folded" candystripper. quote: If your behavior was consistent with this; quote: Mercnbeth quote: The Code of Professional Ethics calls for "zealous representation". i never did anything sexual WITH opposing counsel; it's not my fault men cannot multi-task <WEG>. candystripper Why not be proud and disclose it to him? quote: beth wants me to point out that she doesn't hate lawyers either. One even helped her out. I checked and he didn't have to stuff a salami in his pants to do so. He just "zealously represented" the facts. Mercnbeth Man...setting things into quotes was a pain. Merc, i am confused by Your comments that You hate lawsuits; You hate the "legal profession" and Your own lawyer, who You say is incompetent and has billed You six figures to date....but "You don't hate lawyers". But no matter; i won cases and settled others on favorable terms and won restitution as well as big fines that allowed the elderly and the poor to recover from a fraud...and others in my office sat on their lazy asses, working 35 hours a week and settling for $2,500....sometimes $500..for violations no different than ones i had on my desk. i did use my legs...but You can be sure the 70 and 80 hour weeks of work i had put into the case was also a factor. i did not HAVE to work overtime and was not compensated in any for doing so; but a trial takes preparation. The cases i settled were either (1) losers for the agency IMO; or (2) ones i was ordered to settle by my general counsel. As a rule they were settled "on the courthouse steps"; so i had done all the trial preparation necessary. i won't say i resent the insults You've shoved my way. Let's just live and let live. i told a funny story. You cannot see the humor and have accused me of "self-humiliation". i cannot help but think if You didn't have such animosity for lawyers You'd get a chuckle out of my story and move on. You say i misrepresent You and misunderstand You, but i have quoted Your words, so they speak for themselves. It's a silly thing to argue about; can we please let it drop? (BTW, i am no expert on equal opportunity advantages which women may receive insofar as college and law school admissions policies are concerned. i know the federal and some state and local government contracts sometimes have "set asides" for minority businesses, which generally includes women-owned businesses.) candystripper

candystripper -> RE: Naughty act (11/10/2005 9:38:19 AM)
quote: It isnt all about sex or how many people you fuck... its about using the skills and powers you have to progress. Whether its a smile or a laugh or a rather attractive suit to make you look extremely professional. Professionalism is everything, of course it is but don not doubt that at times, whether you are conscious of it or not, your sexuality plays a part of where you go, or how you achieve. To that door that is opened, that perfume you where, that make up you apply, the way you cut your hair, whether you pierce your ears... everything to be sexually acceptable and use that power. It is naive to believe otherwise. Peace and Love dark~angel Absolutely. Almost without exception, opposing counsel was a handsome man in a $3,000 suit from DC or NYC etc. along with his entourage of second chair, etc. The female administrative law judges were very, very lenient with them. Appeals were taken from some of their rulings, and decisions overturned, but this takes time and the poor and elderly sometimes cannot wait. i know my general counsel was angry enough about this to speak to the Head Administrative Law Judge about one judge in particular, and asked that our agency's cases be assigned to other judges. candystripper

Mercnbeth -> RE: Naughty act (11/10/2005 10:31:09 AM)
quote: i told a funny story. You cannot see the humor and have accused me of "self-humiliation". i cannot help but think if You didn't have such animosity for lawyers You'd get a chuckle out of my story and move on. You say i misrepresent You and misunderstand You, but i have quoted Your words, so they speak for themselves. It's a silly thing to argue about; can we please let it drop? This would have dropped long ago if you just said it was to be taken as humorous instead of being so defensive. As a "joke" I appreciate it and it's dropped. From a philosophical perspective I stand behind what I said to you in this open forum and what I said to you directly in private email. I won't copy it here without your permission, but the basic concept was your post inferred that exploitation of your sexuality was a major factor in your success. Peoples perception of your abilities in particular and women's abilities in general, could be influenced negatively. I'll make a totally egregious, out of context, worst case projection, "what if" scenario for consideration of my point. I hired my attorney to do a job of representing me and my company professionally and argue the case on the facts. If my attorney called me today and said she was able to settle my case as the result of a blow job she gave the opposing counsel, I'd turn her in to the Ethics Committee. You say it's a matter of degrees? Well, since humor is the cause of the misunderstanding I'd ask to consider this humorous example. A man walks up to a woman in a hotel bar and says; "I'll give you $5 Million to sleep with me. Will you do it?" The woman thinks a bit and says; "Okay sure, but I want the money up front." The man says; "Okay, no problem, but right now I only have about $20 in my pocket. will you come up to my room and sleep with me anyway?" The woman is outraged and says; "What do you think I am a prostitute?!!" He replies; "We've already established that, now we are just negotiating price."

sub4hire -> RE: Naughty act (11/10/2005 11:01:02 AM)
quote: If you could get away with one naughty/bad act knew there was Absolutey no way in the world you would ever get caught or punished? What would it be? I sat on this thread a few days thinking about it. My answer would be no. I would take no pride in humiliating anyone as they can do that to themselves. When they do, I will point it out. I'm just the messenger..people do it to themselves. I expect the same to be done to me if I ever do just that. We would live in a better society if we all knew where we stood with one another. So, what could I possibly do that would be beyond who I already am? I've thought about it and absolutely nothing comes to mind. I dislike the current administration we have. So, I belong to a group who protests them. I know more about the administration than most know. Though there is no reason to stray across the boundries of the law because it is funner to stay within. It linger's much longer. Make sense?

candystripper -> RE: Naughty act (11/10/2005 2:10:32 PM)
Watch this. My interest in explaining a humourous situation i spoke of as just ^dropped^ to zero. Finiti. The end. candystripper

cellogrrlMK -> RE: Naughty act (11/10/2005 6:32:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: candystripper Frankly i am amazed at the prudish nature of some of the responses; all i did was show my legs...he he. But then Mercnbeth are honest enough to admit their hatred of lawyers arises from a lawsuit they are engaged in which has cost them six figures to defend. Don't have any idea about cello's feelings towards lawyers. Since you've wondered twice about my feelings towards lawyers, I have none. I do find showing one's legs to get what they want a bit sad; couldn't you have used your ligiational or bargaining, or whatever was required skills to get what you wanted? I don't think that is prudish at all, simply a matter of professionalism. quote: Whether cello admits it or is even aware of it, attractive people of both genders have a leg up; when competing for a position against a less-attractive woman or a man, undoubtedly cello has been chosen partially because people desire attractive people around. I shall take that as a compliment, thank you. However, auditions are held behind a screen, anonymously, to prevent any kind of bias towards gender, race, appearance, etc. Women are advised not to wear heels that can be heard on the floor walking out on stage. Some orchestras have even taken to holding their final rounds with a screen. Again, I am proud to have earned my positions strictly by the way I play, not by how I look. And now I am done with this nonsense too.

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