The Wages of 'Sin'

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candystripper -> The Wages of 'Sin' (6/27/2008 5:53:44 AM)
*The Wages of Sin: Sex and Disease, Past and Present, by Peter L. Allen, Univ. of Chicago Press, 2000. Past Western Attitudes: quote:* Pulpits, political platforms, and public hospitals resounded with condemnations of any illness thought to derive from sexual congress. The anthropomorphic tenets of Hippocrates, espoused by Galen and others, collided with the doctrine that heavenly salvation is achieved at the expense of earthly happiness. Death's tumbrel carried off lepers who were legally expelled from most major cities in Britain; those with syphilis who were barred from the gates of the Hôtel-Dieu in Paris; and plague victims who were too poor to flee the streets of London. Present Day Western Attitudes: quote: For [the author], the attitudes of his fellow citizens in the early years of the AIDS epidemic mirror precisely the benighted beliefs of bygone centuries. The prejudice that certain sicknesses equate with sin was shared, according to Allen, by public figures, private citizens, and many physicians. So many profiles, both D-types and s-types, say something like 'disease free'. Are D/s people any more (or less) willing to accept a partner with an std compared to 'vanilla' people? candystripper

VBPiercedGal -> RE: The Wages of 'Sin' (6/27/2008 6:34:26 AM)
For me, much depends on how/when it was contracted. We are all capable of stupidity when in the throws of passion or when we're In Love, especially when we're young and bullet proof, so some (certainly not all) things can be easily forgiven. Continued stupidity from a supposedly mature adult is unforgivable, though. It's not so much the disease in question, but the maturity level of the person afflicted. True, many STDs don't initially have symptoms, so many partners may be exposed before a person knows they're infected. But that's why one should always insist on barriers until both partners are cleared by a physician. As for the stigma surrounding various STDs, there is a valid reason why those infected are often villified: Self preservation. It's a gut reaction not based on intellectual reasoning, but on the inherent need to survive. We are very smart animals who seek immortality through procreation and anything that may affect our ability to procreate should be rightfully avoided. Given that, we are also very capable of acting contrary to our genetic programming and, as civilized people, have learned to overcome our natural fears. We fall in love with, work with, have sex with, and care for the sick, handicapped, and injured of our species. Which makes us pretty damn cool [:D]

starDF -> RE: The Wages of 'Sin' (6/27/2008 7:03:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: candystripper So many profiles, both D-types and s-types, say something like 'disease free'. Are D/s people any more (or less) willing to accept a partner with an std compared to 'vanilla' people? candystripper Personally, i think it depends on the people involved, the STD in question and the type of relationship. If it is strictly a service or play relationship then the STD has little impact. i don't think D/s people are any more or less likely - i think many of us are more knowledgeable about various STD's and such because we discuss them openly and regularly! star

daddysliloneds -> RE: The Wages of 'Sin' (6/27/2008 12:31:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: candystripper Are D/s people any more (or less) willing to accept a partner with an std compared to 'vanilla' people? nope; it's the particular persons knowledge and /or understanding of the diseases and/or how they can prevent from getting them themselves or from passing it on to others.

HeavansKeeper -> RE: The Wages of 'Sin' (6/28/2008 4:05:50 AM)
From before I started tinkering around in the D/s world I had an established opinion on STDs and being disease free. It hasn't changed. I admit I have a phobia of STD's. I feel like a real jerk admitting it, but I would not accept a house-slave* who had HIV. I specify house-slave as someone I would never be having sex with. I understand how virus's can (and cannot) be tranferred, and I understand it would be completely safe. I just wouldn't do it. feels guilty for my stance*

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