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WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 3:11:13 PM

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I have been on this site about 2 years and I want to know what a master is. Im serious. "Married vanilla" guys call themselves masters; is that right? are they in control of their life if they have a wife they are cheating on, for any reason? Now another question: is a master about toys, dungeons, and fancy knots? using a singletail? Im not impressed. To me, a master is a man of character and integrity. And please, dont remind me this is kink site. I know some Masters, real masters. And they all have good values and integrity. Seems to me that many of the "masters" here are just about sexual domination and kink. Period. I know I am going to be criticized for this post but I felt it needed to be said.

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 3:13:21 PM

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Well ... you're not the first person to say it. Or the 101st.

Whatever you find here, there's probably someone who's attracted to it. If it's not your cup of tea, don't sip it. ~shrug~

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 3:15:47 PM

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Mine is my master. Does that affect you in some way?

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 3:21:21 PM

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Feel better now OP?

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 3:40:21 PM

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To us, the term is fairly flexible because it can be master of a craft, the term people feel best applies to their relationship or the term a person feels best applies to them in relation to the relationship they are seeking. While I may or may not be able to judge if someone has mastered a particular craft, I do not feel that I can judge what terms apply to someone else's relationship or to themselves. I may be able to offer my opinion, and if I know them well I may be right. However, I generally don't feel that it is anyone's place to judge these terms anymore than I would judge the terms husband and wife for a happy couple who live on different sides of the state or country.

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 3:44:23 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Firebirdseeking
I have been on this site about 2 years and I want to know what a master is. Im serious. "Married vanilla" guys call themselves masters; is that right? are they in control of their life if they have a wife they are cheating on, for any reason? Now another question: is a master about toys, dungeons, and fancy knots? using a singletail? Im not impressed. To me, a master is a man of character and integrity. And please, dont remind me this is kink site. I know some Masters, real masters. And they all have good values and integrity. Seems to me that many of the "masters" here are just about sexual domination and kink. Period. I know I am going to be criticized for this post but I felt it needed to be said.

firebirdseeking

Everyone has a different idea of what that title means to Them. My advice is to do some soul searching and research and decide what it means to You.

Now that that's been said, I'll give you my own opinion, take from it from you will.

For me there's a huge difference, I have my Sir, my Dom, if you will. A dominant is a leader, one who protects, guides, and disciplines. He challenges you to challenge yourself. Yet, I don't consider him my Master, at least not yet, we have not entered that stage in our relationship. If I were to become his slave, and He, my Master, the meaning takes on a whole new level. He is the Owner of my soul, everything that I have is His and is on loan to me, simple pleasures are no longer mine to enjoy - things we take for granted, like simply sitting on the couch, eating at the table, or playing video games are His to deny me. It means we've gotten to a point where safe words are not a concern, he Knows me, he can hurt me to the point of screams - but he'll never damage me, emotionally or otherwise. God I could keep going. Everything about my life would be in His hands and I Know and trust that he would never abuse that kind of power. I've given him All of me because I love him and I am in surrender of his power and strength of being. I am His property.

A Master is simply the Owner of His slave. But what that Means to the slave and the Master is defined simply by who they are and the dynamic that they have with each other.

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 3:52:29 PM

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You aren't a real master until you've been told you're a fake/wannabe at least five times.

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 3:56:31 PM

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I am not a Master, I'm a slave Owner.
You're right, the term "Master" can be thrown around loosely here, and it stands to reason that there are a lot of guys on CM who will call themselves that just to get some kinky sex. So let them. Anybody can call themselves anything they want. If they're bothering you, you can ignore, delete and/or block them.

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 3:56:39 PM

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I found my Master here, but definitely not the first guy I talked to that called himself such.

We started out as friends and things grew. I feel sorry for those who think they can have a new Master after one email.

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 4:02:30 PM

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men with good attitude, dildoes, women with voluptuous lips.

Those are masters, I think the rest are pasty assholes.

That help a motherfucker out?
I dunno

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 4:04:33 PM

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quote:

I think the rest are pasty assholes.

I was gonna have a sammich.

nope, no sammich now.

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 4:05:44 PM

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Mine is my master. Does that affect you in some way?

now just a doggone second here!!! Mine is MY Master too!!! How'd THAT happen?

juliet

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 4:08:00 PM

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with all due respect to the slaves and subs here, I want to hear from the MASTERS. I want to know what they think of all this. I already know what I think.

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 4:09:43 PM

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Fire- don't you know that dismissing people's opinions based on orientation is the first and most obvious sign that you're just a fake?

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 4:17:54 PM

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quote:

quote:

ORIGINAL: mbes

Mine is my master. Does that affect you in some way?

now just a doggone second here!!! Mine is MY Master too!!! How'd THAT happen?

juliet

Pierre and Alphonse, two recent acquaintances, are sitting at a cafe in the Champs Elysee, and talking about the world. Suddenly Alphonse smiles and says "Ah, Pierre, how fortunate we are to live in Paris, the most civilized place in the entire world. And do you know why, Pierre?"

Pierre says "no, my friend, why?"

Alphonse gestures to two lovely women walking towards the men at the table and says "Where else could a man sit on a lovely spring evening, sipping a pastis, and remark to his new-found friend 'Look there, my wife and my mistress walking hand-in-hand towards me on this lovely June evening?' "

And Pierre raises an eyebrow and says "Ah, my new friend, we must get to know eachother better, as I was about to make the same observation!"

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 4:28:23 PM

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MASTER....

6 letter word

other than that, it means very little to the general public.

Of course, personal interpertation may vary

Is there where we all now go on to the

what is slave
what is submissive
what is Mistress
what is switch

discussion?

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 4:32:38 PM

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I would point out that the same question could (and has been) be asked about what is a sub or a slave. To all of these questions you will get very different answers, with each person reflecting what it means to them as an individual.

So for the sake of discussion, let me relay my feelings or at least some thoughts.

Simply put, I am a man that seeks to master himself. I enjoy the benefits and trials that come along with the owning of a slave, does this qualify as being a master, I don't believe so. I have never claimed the "title or label". I have found that most of the time it is purely a cloak to hide the hollow shell that is the man. Self-proclaimed "Masters" make about as much sense as self-proclaimed heroes, and vainly boast of their own self importance. There are some men that I consider to be masters, because of their deeds and actions, not because of the label they wear on their name tag.

As has been stated many times before, on almost every forum I have ever read: A master is a teacher, a mentor, a confidant, somebody that excels in a particular field.

Just my thoughts on the matter, take them for what they are worth.
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So in that light, I strive for betterment of myself, attempting to one day master that which is me.

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 4:34:54 PM

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Poor, poor firebirdseeking. I had some groundbreaking truths to tell you. I'm not a sub or a slave or switch, unlike these other terrible people who posted on your rant, I mean thread, but I'm a girly Master and have boobs, so my opinions would count for nothing either.

Good luck, because with that attitude, you're going to need it.

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 4:37:50 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Firebirdseeking

with all due respect to the slaves and subs here, I want to hear from the MASTERS. I want to know what they think of all this. I already know what I think.

Well you heard the opinion of my mine through me. If you are above hearing it from his girl, we don't give a damn. You'll get it through me or not at all. Though to be honest, if I feel like posting I'll do it regardless of what you want. Since, ya'know, you don't own me.

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RE: WTF is a "Master"? - 6/29/2008 4:40:14 PM

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I can't even begin to understand why you haven't found someone after two years. Maybe all of the fakes just can't recognize your bubbly, friendly, non-judgemental attitude.
Whining is a huge turn on too.

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