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GentlemanBobIII -> New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/3/2008 5:27:48 PM)

 Ok here goes a NEW introduction. I  have submissive tendencies and my motivating force for wanting to explore bdsm is being tickle tortured. Having never BEEN tickled it's easy to understand my fascination and desire to experience it, although the bondage aspect makes it BDSM related. I am a  gentleman and nice guy who respects woman. Chivalry is alive and well in my dealings with women.  How many of you find this to be true, chivalry by it's nature has some submissive qualities to it. Standing when a lady enters the room, or sits down or  gets up from the table, tipping my hat to women I pass (though I think this gesture is lost on most), holding a door open, saying maam a lot. I never realized until I started looking around here what a submissive qualites  they are. To me, it's just good manners. I'm not saying all "gentlemen" are submissive however... Of course maybe the dommes here don't find that to be "submissive" behavior. I digress though. I live in Robinson Township PA, (wave if you know where that is),  and I work as a Security Officer, I am a volunteer firefighter, and a Social Work student. I  find I am willing, even desire to have a woman over me. Not sure if that qualifies me to belong here though. I have been told bdsm is about power exchange not about beating and humiliating men( women) And that most Dommes do not "hate men" and  are "just using thier domme status to beat and punish every man, via proxy, that ever hurt them". I hope this is true for I have heard otherwise from people who disapprove of this lifestyle. I am curious about other aspects of BDSM  as well, such as CBT, Sensation Play, and Roleplaying. Some of these things scare me though because I have seen so much abuse in my life, plus, getting my balls kicked seems dangerous(yet somehow erotic). The same goes for other areas of BDSM as well. There is a lot I don't know or understand about aspects of BDSM, and others I would be unwilling to try, at this time, given my limited knowledge of these activities but I want to know and understand more. Others, like tickle torture and orgasm tease and denial, sensation play, seem relatively safe. and I would be willing to experiment with them now with the right person. My biggest concern is that in order to fully embrace this lifestyle I would have to give up my own identity, have no mind of my own, just my dommes desires,  and that in the process all my chivalrous qualities will be lost. Is this what most dommes want, a puppet a slave? Does romance even HAVE a place in the BDSM lifestyle? Personally,  I have always believed in 50/50 partnership in housekeeping cooking(although I love to cook and am pretty good at it) and decisionmaking. And at times, like when my former wife was sick, taking care of her and assuming 100% of the household duties. It seems to me, that most women today, don't want a guy like me anymore. So I will end this inroduction as I opened it in the subject line, Do nice guys like me always finish last? I welcome your feedback, and any aswers/suggestions  you have to offer. I hope at the very least I will make some new friends here who won't judge me as being "weird" or "Perverted" because of my interests. Have a GREAT day. -Bob




darkpassenger434 -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/3/2008 7:44:50 PM)

Yes, they do. At least on here in my admittedly limited experience. That being said, your qualities might endear you to a lot of people on here, as you are approaching this as a submissive.
-R




GentlemanBobIII -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/3/2008 7:51:54 PM)

Thanks Dark. Welcome to the forums. -Bob




darkpassenger434 -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/3/2008 9:42:46 PM)

Let me know how the search goes. I'm interested in seeing what the other side of D/s experiences on here. Mine has been that the forums are great, but the actual CM networking piece is borderline ridiculous. I wish you luck.
-R




PhoenixAyres -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/5/2008 2:01:54 AM)

Hello Sir.

I too am a male sub/pet....have been on this site for 3 yrs looking for a LTR Mistress to move to rl and serve.  Yet so far...as You can guess...Im still here looking.  I truelly hope You have better luck then me.






chiaThePet -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/5/2008 6:29:38 AM)

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Thought I'd send in some strippers to liv'in up this pity party.

Come on fellas, "Everybody have fun tonight, everybody Wang Chung tonight".

Oh wait, that one was for that Kneelonrice dude, nevermind.

chia* (the pet)




wandersalone -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/5/2008 7:15:26 AM)

If you spend time reading the forums you will see that there are a number of lovely male submissives that are collared or in long term relationships.  I always wonder if the people who feel that they will never find anyone live a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I wish you all the best.

to Chia - Wang Chung??[:D] Are you going to make us do the safety dance next?




MadameMisty -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/5/2008 9:57:39 AM)

This is the first time that I have spoken in the forums here.  But, your topic caught my interest.  Yes, there are many a dominant female and male who very much enjoy the chilvary.  I teach my children such traits and expect the same from anyone I speak with.  Manners are lots to these generation of children and adults it seems.  I do not think it is a pity party you are having; just try to keep a positive out look.  It takes time to find who finds you and what you are looking for.  I have not found the right slave for me and I have been search for many years; but I do not try to look at it as a bad thing.  All that have be trained by me or that have not come to be mine; is just another experience to add to my knowledge.  Try to do the same for whomever takes you under their tickling fingers.




RedMagic1 -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/5/2008 10:05:09 AM)

Nice guys absolutely finish first in BDSM-land.  Period.

Bob -- go to the groups Madame4a suggested.  The female dominants in healthy relationships are dating or married to fantastic guys (or gals).  Don't spend all your time thinkthinkthinkthinkthinking without contact with real-world experience.




MySweetSubmssive -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/5/2008 10:12:09 AM)

I get a little antsy at this word "nice."  But I adore men who are emotionally intelligent, kind, engaging and intelligent.  I look for that.  I would go hacking through a jungle with a machete to get it.

But I remember in 7th grade that we were doing this ridiculous self-esteem building exercise where we focused on one classmate at a time, and we went around the room describing her with a positive adjective.  It seemed that when we couldn't come up with anything else to say, we said "nice."  Is that what nice is?

Mss




RedMagic1 -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/5/2008 10:28:45 AM)

Yeah, Mss, you're right.  If nice=featureless, then nice doesn't finish first.  To have character, you need characteristics -- the willingness to stand for something, to hold true to someone.  Who wants to satisfy their appetite with something bland?




BotanicalMiss -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/5/2008 10:59:49 AM)

Nice guys do not finish last and chivalry is not only adored, but insisted on by many Dommes. It is one the qualities that I specifically seek in subs. Based on your profile, I would have no problem meeting you if you were more local. But Pittsburgh has, from what I understand, quite a large bdsm community. Go to munches, get out there and meet people. Contrary to much newbie belief, no one is going to "out" you at a munch or anywhere else. They're all there for the same reason, to get to know other locals who are of a like mind. No one else in the bar or restaurant is going to know what your group is all about. Be friendly and open and get to know people for who they are and you'll stand a pretty good chance of meeting people you can explore things with. And who knows? You just might find a special someone. All the best of luck to you.




GentlemanBobIII -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/5/2008 3:25:32 PM)

Thanks for all of your feedback. Red, I intend to look into the groups thatshe suggested. I've recieved both encouragement and discouragement through these replies. However, at least you all DID reply, and for that I thank you. Many more read but did not reply, I wish you well and hope you gained something in the reading of this post. I would encourage you to not be shy. I think you will get much more out of these forums if you partcipate. Myself, I got chewed out by some for posting too much, esp on topics already addressed in threads before my time, but by and large people here have been pretty nice. So, feel free to speak up. The overall exp will be much more rewarding for you if you do. You don't have to STAY vanilla. LOL Look at me I'm up to newbie already. BotanicalMiss, I replied to you privately however I wanted to thank you here publicly for your encouraging post. Have a GREAT day everyone and again thanks for your replies, and your reads. - Bob 




Ialdabaoth -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/5/2008 6:06:17 PM)

Always remember: there is a difference between "nice" and "good".




SunnyTawse -> RE: New Member: Do nice guys always finish last? (7/5/2008 9:21:45 PM)

Your post was tailor-made for me to answer, GentlemanBobIII! Nice guys are the only ones who have a chance with me. I don't see chivalry as submissive, but I'm not interested in a submissive who isn't chivalrous.

Nice guys who are submissive excite and delight me. Sensitive, sweet, emotionally vulnerable men with a desire to please and to serve turn me on. Yes, I want to hurt them, but I also want to protect them. I had female submissives for over 20 years, and I wanted to hurt and protect them, too.

I have a male of my own, GentlemanBobIII, but I would suggest you have a bright future among dominant women. And hey--we're all pervs here!

Sunny Tawse
Sadien Domina
Archon of Rings
http://AthenorLodge.com


Edited to remove a quote of GentlemanBobIII's entire post.




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