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CallaFirestormBW -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 9:06:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: L8bloomer

I don't either...but geez...it's frustrating being alone...what do you do about the sex part of it? I'm not about to go out and boink for the sake of boinking.


I learned how to please myself. I'm not into casual sex, so if I didn't want to compromise my principles, I needed to get comfortable with learning to meet my own needs. I got so good at it that I stopped looking completely for almost 6 years, because I didn't meet a single person in those 6 years who met my criteria for a person I wanted to be around -- why have sex with someone you can't stand, except that he happens to have an available penis, eh?

Calla Firestorm





Bethnai -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 9:14:13 AM)

For me, I have found that the majority of the emails that I receive come from Dom's who need me to need  a lot of what some of the primary complaints are.  Its like they try to find some insecurity and zero in on that. Then they get frusterated because its not an insecurity.  I don't need to be saved. It's projection.  That is exhausting, but not as exhausting as trying to end something that was wrong from the get go.

Sometimes, I think, its not about expectations being to high. The "picture in your head". Sometimes its about what you will not settle for.  There are people and instances where taking responsibility for your actions is a fer sure thang and, yep, the problem is you.  There are also people and instances where being responsible means sacrificing instant gratification.I believe that there is a huge difference between being lonely and solitude. I also don't believe that it should be this huge amount of work initially. Work is what you do with a certain amount of commitment.  If it doesn't come easy, it isn't coming at all. 

I would be foolish to believe that there is someone for everyone. The only reason I wouldn't throw in a towel is because in this "exonomy",  I might not be able to replace  it.  Perhaps the universe is just saying to take stock of your life and appreciate where you have been.











Missokyst -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 9:29:31 AM)

My thoughts exactly.
Kyst
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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW
I learned how to please myself. I'm not into casual sex, so if I didn't want to compromise my principles, I needed to get comfortable with learning to meet my own needs.\
why have sex with someone you can't stand, except that he happens to have an available penis, eh?

Calla Firestorm






KnightofMists -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 9:38:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HizBabyGirl

I have to say I am about ready to throw in the towel.
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As yourself

"What is the chance of me finding what I am looking for if I throw in the towel?"

I suspect it is far less of chance than if you continue to open doors in your search.  Instead of considering throwing in the towel... maybe you should just consider a rest for spell or maybe consider other approaches that is different than what you have tried.

either way.. I do know what your chances are if you throw in the towel.  so  do you want it or not... if you don't throw in the towel... if you do... take another step... but maybe smaller steps or rest for abit.




NumberSix -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 9:54:06 AM)

Get yourself the new Maybelline frog gloss in the fire engine red.

EVERYBODY gotta kiss alot of 'em.

Way the world works.

Buck up and show 'em your ass, laddie buck!!!!

6




DreamyLadySnow -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 9:58:28 AM)

HisBabyGirl,
I feel like you do a lot of the time. It seems like the energy I've put into finding a boy has been a waste. Maybe wanting any form of emotional connection to a D/s partner is asking too much, who knows.
I know my best relationships have been with dominant men but they won't let me beat them (bastards!) and get jealous if I have a boy on the side.
How do you win at this game?

LS




Venatrix -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 10:03:40 AM)

I'm feeling pretty fed up with submissive men right now, HizBabyGirl.  Unlike a lot of other posters, I don't think the problem is with you.  I think it's just a numbers game, and you're simply going to have to meet a lot of people before you find the right connection.  Like a lot of the other posters, when tired of the "whole thing," I encourage a break from trying to date.  Set yourself some personal goals for the next few months and work on those.  I've decided to take my weight training to a new level, weed out the spare room (at least, I *think* there's a spare room back there; I can't quite get through the door), work on my writing, etc.  Doesn't that sound better than sitting around moping? 




bipolarber -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 11:44:19 AM)

Burnout happens.

I've been in the scene since about '82, and I think I've suffered burnout at least four times I can think of, right off the top of my head. Times when I was so depressed that I pretty much walked away for months (and at one point, two years) at a time. You get used by people (and not in a good way) and there's really no way to avoid it.

The times away from the scene, I try to make as productive as I can. I do some artwork, fix a few things around the house, or whatrever. I find that, when I'm in some kind of relationship, I've usually fallen into some kind of rut. Always going to the same places, seeing the same people...  So I try to break that routine, and deliberately visit other BDSM groups, sometimes as far as being out of state, just to see some new faces.

I also found Taoisim. "Going with the flow" has made the process of finding and playing with others much easier... sort of an air bag, preventing "whiplash of the heart." But that's just me. Perhaps there is some kind of belief in your life that will help you along?

As William Shakespeare said, in Midsummer Night's Dream... "The course of love never did run smooth."





JstAnotherSub -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 12:16:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

I learned how to please myself. I'm not into casual sex, so if I didn't want to compromise my principles, I needed to get comfortable with learning to meet my own needs. I got so good at it that I stopped looking completely for almost 6 years, because I didn't meet a single person in those 6 years who met my criteria for a person I wanted to be around -- why have sex with someone you can't stand, except that he happens to have an available penis, eh?

Calla Firestorm




sheesh thanks so much for this post.....i was about to post i was tired too, and reading this i realize im content......i think ill go seduce me in celebration.





NumberSix -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 12:23:20 PM)

A round of cement vibrators for my friends!!!!!

6




stella41b -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 12:45:08 PM)

I'm not so sure about taking a break to be honest.

I'm TG and form relationships with Dommes, and up until a few years ago I had it all, everything - I was successful in my career, popular, had friends, good relationships with Dommes, I had the sort of life not shared by many people and partly due to circumstances beyond my control and partly (equally) down to my own stupidity events took a dramatic turn and I lost everything, and I mean everything, including my health, career, reputation, with the only exclusion of my mind and my life. But it was close, very close.

I haven't thrown in the towel, nor have I given up. That would be admitting defeat, that would mean giving in to your own weaknesses, giving in to the other people. In the past two and a half years I have gone through just about everything you can possibly go through, homelessness, welfare benefits, being stuck in a hostel, emotional disturbances, obesity (I've shifted 200lbs of weight only to put back 100lbs on and am currently shifting it again), illness, hostpital stays, being sexually assaulted, excluded, and so on. I've had a lot of time to think, empty days, sleepless nights, this has caused me to take a good look and deeply examine what life is all about, what people are really all about and most of all who I really am and what I'm all about.

It's been a long hard road back, rebuilding my life, and even today I'm sitting here and rebuilding. I'm sitting here, in my apartment close to Central London, I got a mug of green tea beside me, it's been raining, there's still drops of rain on the windows, and you know in the grand scheme of things I'm no different than one of those tiny drops of water meandering its way down my kitchen window.

I've undergone a complete metamorphosis, things have changed, I've let go, moved on, and I don't want or need what I had before. It was fine while it lasted, but all good things come to an end. I've changed, I'm no longer the same person, and I'll openly admit I have trust issues with other people. Between loneliness, depression and poverty every time I would choose poverty, without any fesitation. In fact in some ways I have, and do you know what? I enjoy it. But you know I gave myself a choice, I could either sit here alone and suffer, being bitter, moping over what was, what has been, asking constantly the question why and torturing myself over 'what if', or... I could rise above whatever life threw at me and move on, with nothing more than the hope and faith that somehow, some way, some day, there will be someone and there will be something new.

I chose the latter and decided to throw myself into working with the homeless, including the same people I stood among in the lines for food and shelter, for advice, the people I spent time with in the hostel for the homeless, and the people who don't even have that. This was my way of internalizing my own pain, heartache and loss, it was reaching out to others, being there for them, not expecting anything other than to be allowed to share their problems and issues with them. I've sat with people who never had what I had in life, women who have been abused, battered, people like me who lost everything, I've sat among paedophiles, rapists, wife beaters, men who have served life sentences for murder who have stepped out of prison into a modern world which doesn't care and doen't want to know. I keep with me a packet of Rizla cigarette papers and hand them out so these people can crack open the cigarette butts they've picked up off the streets to enjoy a smoke. Even now when I visit a supermarket I will take a look at the back of the supermarket, check to see where the bins are, and pass this information on to the people I spend time with so they can find somewhere else to do some skippering.

I'm lucky, being a transgendered female, I couldn't have the children I wanted, can't eve have a period, and I've still got some way to go before surgery. Therefore I don't really have sexual needs. My submissive needs are catered for, sitting and listening to problems, helping people, befriending, arranging clothing and food supplies, getting down on my knees and transforming smelly unwashed feet into something capable of walking on with some comfort, clipping yellowed toenails, disinfecting blisters, sores, attacking hardened skin with a pumice stone, disinfecting blisters, even giving foot massages. Homeless people do an awful lot of walking, day in, day out, I keep telling these people when they get some money to buy themselves a weekly bus pass, but few do. This puts everything into perspective. I often meet people who have been homeless and sleeping on the streets five years, ten years. Some are going to bed down in cardboard one night and not wake up the next morning. There probably won't be a next of kin either, no funeral.

I have a theatre, of sorts, been rehearsing and developing plays now for almost a year. Been trying to open a play for a few months now, this week it looks like two actors have dropped out. Yesterday I left Pride early, too many people, I wasn't in the mood, and I decided to go to a DIY store and buy halogen spotlights, cables, and black paint. I've decided to convert my bedroom to serve as a small studio - a tiny black box theatre - for photo, sound and video work. This morning I went to a boot sale bought a cheap digital camera for £10. Bought new batteries, the camera doesn't work, hut it doesn't matter. I now know that I may need to abandon one of my productions after four months of work, but it doesn't matter.

When I really needed people to be there for me before there was nobody, it's been a long hard two years but the dumbest thing I ever did - I'm sitting here shaking my head and laughing - was to believe that someone would be there to support me and help me through. happens to some people, some people are lucky, others aren't. People see what they want to see in you and disregard the rest. I find myself often at the sharp end of people's judgment and prejudices, but you know there's not really much I can do about that. The rebuilding continues, I have a double bed in my bedroom, I occupy it maybe once a week, I sleep usually on the sofa, rarely for more than 3 or 4 hours, been awake today since 3am, I feel drowsy but have managed to stay active all through. I go for walks, long walks, I meet people, and just live for the present.

There are a few people in my life, people who have stayed all through, they couldn't help me as much as they wanted but it doesn't matter. They stayed, they listened, they understood, this is all what matters. I would give these people anything and everything. I haven't given up, or thrown in the towel, I'm just no longer 'available', I cannot discount a relationship coming from someone who approaches me off the Internet but it would require a miracle. I want friendship up front and I'm not budging from this requirement. I assume that this isn't going to be an issue for someone who really wants to be with me and in my life and for me to be a part of their life.

Therefore I have no expectations, no illusions, no drama, I'm living for the here and now, happy to find happiness and pleasure in the small things, having decided that life is too short for bullshit, games and bitterness. I know I cannot go through life being wary and suspicious of others, but I much prefer substance over style. The rain doesn't fall all the time, not even here in London. The sun also comes out. I know that some time my plays will open, I will regain my figure and fitness, and someone will be in my life.

Until then I'm enjoying the storm and walking through puddles.

ETA please forgive typos due to small text on screen and also my rambling. It's one of those days.




Prinsexx -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 2:02:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

Burnout happens.


I also found Taoisim. .............



Bipolar thank you for this.
And there is another viewpoint that burn out happens BECAUSE one needs to be immersed in a spiritual life once in a while.......in rest and dreams so be it..............
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to……
To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come……..

From Hamlet.





gypsygrl -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 5:41:23 PM)

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And there is another viewpoint that burn out happens BECAUSE one needs to be immersed in a spiritual life once in a while.......in rest and dreams so be it..............


That's pretty much my view of what other people call 'depression.'  Its like winter for the soul, a time of rest and recuperation.  I think its like a built in slow down mechanism, when we integrate various  experiences and re-define ourselves in light of our experiences.  If we're willing.  Some people aren't.




stardancer00 -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/6/2008 5:52:42 PM)


i am always grateful for threads like these when others are so honest and open in their sharing. i also chose to remain celibate for long periods - 12 years at one point - rather than to have casual boinking, and recently have been studying Tibetan Buddhism and meditation more seriously. Developing self and living life in a positive and compassionate way tends to bring others who are like minded into your sphere. i see myself as a whole person. i do not know what the future will bring. i know that life is unpredictable and always changing. Should i meet someone and develop a relationship which is meaningful for both of us, i will honor that and be grateful for it as well.




VioletAshes -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/7/2008 4:06:56 AM)

I had an amazing male friend for many years while I searched for my perfect dominant man. It was only when we made the leap to sexual partners did I discover his perfect dominance and was amazed he was just what I had been searching for despite us never having spoken about our tastes.
 
The man is out there, he may just be somewhere you haven't looked yet.




Isabelah -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/7/2008 7:45:38 AM)

I believe life is very short something to be enjoyed. Therefore, I don't make it a big deal so much when I meet fakers, wannabes, game players, uncertain, and dlers. However, I do have my standards and if someone can't read my profile then why should I take the time to deal with them. Again life is so very short.

I don't see the need to burnout in a community where it is suppose to sane, safe, and consensual. We are suppose to be having a good time...not having  to take an excedrine. Therefore...if I ever found myself burning out in something I don't get paid for and that is suppose to be fun...then it is time for me to leave.

I am not leaving yet.




strangefruit -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/7/2008 2:33:07 PM)

This is probably pretty horrible to say, but I don't really expect anything. At best, I might find a few people that are neat to talk to... but I don't expect to actually find something  worthwhile. I am under consideration at the moment with a gentleman who i think is a great friend and I like him alot. I take things one day at a time and will see how it goes. I just got out of a year and a half relationshio...vanilla...in which prouced my 8 month old daughter...and I'm in absolutely no rush. I had a man i know from real life let me know he wanted to be with me...but I turned him down. I know what i'm looking for...and until i find it....

just don't settle.




coupleowl -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/7/2008 4:28:32 PM)

I agree with what alot of people have said, just relax & stop looking for a bit. Go out, live life & have fun & trust me he'll end up finding you. At least that's how it worked for me. The second I said "fuck it I'm done I just want to have fun & be myself"  that was the year we met & fell in love. You'll get there, just enjoy life for now. XD




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/7/2008 4:32:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HizBabyGirl

To stop looking but also to stop risking the hurt and the pain. I'm talking about mental and emotional pain, not physical.


You find the best things in life when you stop looking for them. I met both boys when I had stopped looking for anything.
When you meet someone without a predisposed idea of where it should go or what it should be, youd be amazed by how more often it turns into what you want.

DV




MidMichCowboy -> RE: Is Anyone Tired Besides Me????? (7/7/2008 6:23:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HizBabyGirl

I think I must be suffering burnout/burnup. I feel as though I have talked to all sorts of doms but have never met my match.
I have tried the noncommitted thing and find it lacking. I want it all, love and the special sexual connection that d/s offers.
I have to say I am about ready to throw in the towel.
The reason? I finally got together with someone with whom I became friends first instead of sex first and, its a long story, but it appears to be turning out no different than any other thing I have tried.
All I do is end up feeling used and empty.
Anybody that can identify?
Down and just about out.



I do understand. I too, want it all. I don't just want to play. I want intellectual stimulation, building a future, family, love and all the things that make that love full. That and so much more, but I have yet to find it. So, I've decided to just live. I will probably be slower to take chances and more cautious about admitting love, but I'm going to continue on this journey. If I find someone, I am open to it (although more cautious than in the past). If I don't find someone, I will hold my head high and make the best of life.
 
It's hard. But, not striving and looking, means we have given up on life. That, I'm not ready to do. Take care and best of luck.




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