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that damned tv tech thread again...help. - 7/6/2008 5:55:37 PM

faerytattoodgirl

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ok this week im getting a new hdtv lcd....i am fighting against 2 models (no not mud wrestling with nude girls).

model 1)viewsonic N2635W 26in lcd hdtv $469.99
model 2)lg 22" LG30 $499.99

i have read ALOT of bad reviews on various sites with regards to model 1.
i think this is because viewsonics is actually made to be a computer monitor and not a tv and the features are better in the LG 22".

the lg 22 sports 1680 x 1050 resolution, 300 cd/m2 brightness, 5000:1 ratio, 5ms response time, xd engine 30 bit processing.

but the lg is actually 20" width 15" height. so why do they call it a 22"??
(after converting the cm's to inches) H43.1 cm, W52.2 cm. view angles 170/170

the viewsonic is 1360 x 768 (like most tv's of 22 or 26inch size) 500 cd/m2 brightness, 5000:1 ratio, 16:9, 8ms response time. no special engine. view angles 150/160 W25.9 H22.0

now obviously the viewsonic is cheaper and larger in size..here is one of the reviews at new egg about the viewsonic:

"Numerous cons. For anyone familiar with gray ramps (i.e. 21 step gray bar for designers) this is just one of the ways that you can accurately assess as to whether you are capable of seeing all of the subtlies in the highlights and shadow regions. This LCD blows out the highs and looses the darks. The last three bars on the white side appear solid white and the last three bars on the black side appear solid black. LOTS of info lost. This also affects the color that is seen. By comparison... after returning the ViewSonic after a few days of attempting to get it to display more accurately (and not being able to) I purchased a Sony Bravia 26"". What an enormous difference! Every-single-one of the steps in the gray ramp are visible. The colors are excellent"

another review at new egg: "Very very critical as to viewing angle, especially the vertical axis. Very poor black level with hard to adjust shadows. Maybe it would work for a computer monitor due to the naturally limited viewing axis but as a LCD TV I would say to not waste your time or money. Also I have found no way (in TV mode) to change it's aspect ratio which means when if watching a 4:3 ratio broadcast it will stretch it to around 16:9 which is unacceptable. Other LCD TV’s have easy adjustable aspect ratios via a remote button."

now i am a bargain shopper...i can only afford $500 or less. but i need good quality viewing...the tv is mainly used to watch hockey and nfl. during the summer its pretty much off. i dont want to see a bunch of little fat hockey and football players on my screen. like i read in one other review of the viewsonic.

but the question is...is the viewsonic even worth it for the bargain shopper?

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RE: that damned tv tech thread again...help. - 7/6/2008 6:02:02 PM

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Hello . I have been a TV tech since '91. I would reccomend the LG model because parts and tech support are much better with LG. I do like the Viewsonics ,but LG impressed me last year at a training seminar that I attended. They really care about servicing their products. Hope this helps !

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RE: that damned tv tech thread again...help. - 7/6/2008 6:03:57 PM

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LG measures the diagonal size by including the cabinet. That's how they get 22". Decieving Yes.All manufacturers should adopt a "standard".

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RE: that damned tv tech thread again...help. - 7/6/2008 6:05:48 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: cuckdaddy

LG measures the diagonal size by including the cabinet. That's how they get 22". Decieving Yes.All manufacturers should adopt a "standard".

yea and i just measured my 19" lcd lg monitor...its 16"/13"... thats fucked up. wonder if we can sue for that? edit: diagonal is 20.5 inches.

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RE: that damned tv tech thread again...help. - 7/6/2008 7:45:55 PM

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cuck, if you have only been in the field for 17 years, I could probably help you out quite a bit.

Willow, you had bring this up didn't you ? Since you did.

All LCDs suffer from the same defect, light is always emitted by the bulb(s) at 100% output, all it does it block the light. CRT and plasma based sets make light, instead of blocking it, therefore they are inherently more efficient. This defect is due to the design itself, and there is no cure for it. Turn the brightness down and these things run hotter ! Exactly the opposite of what you might expect.

And I would not pay over four hundred bucks for any of this shit. Put it on a CC it will not be paid off by the time it breaks, if cuck has real experience, he will tell you the same. Two years no payments, in the shop, even an ASC for two months, then the first bill comes.

Think you want to pay it ? But it wrecks your credit just as bad as anything else. You don't want to pay it, you can't pay it because you had to buy a new TV, and you particularly don't want to either.

If you can wait, about once a year a TV comes in the shop like mine, they never break down. There are only three known faults in the world for this series of TVs, which were available in 36-41". All of these possibilities will be taken down, by preventative maintainence. You will not call a TV man for decades.

Work wants to sell them for like $300 because of their age, but I say they aere worth alot more. And they do not weigh over 100 pounds. It is easy for one person to carry it, but not through doorways and such. (width)

I sold one to a buddy of mine in 1996, I tuned it up a couple times, they used it ALOT. The last time he called about it was after I told him, "When this thing gets dark again, the tubes are shot, just get rid of it", he called to see if I wanted it for parts, but I already have a bunch of parts. Then he asked if he could get another one, or buy mine. Sorry, there ain't no more.

I have no faith in any of this new shit, and we are seeing it come in the shop is literally days after the warranty is out. They get you coming and going, and it will cost close to to $400 to fix it, almost guaranteed. I know my shit, I know what I am talking about and I am currently engaged in the profession, and my advice is not to buy anything right now.

There is only one brand I can even think of reccomending, and that is Hitachi. And that is because they have open service info, and pretty good parts availability.

That is my professional reccomendation, take it or leave it. Save up the money for a Hitachi. Neither of the models you mention is worth a shit, but if that is your only choices, cuck is right, go with the LG.

And no matter what do not buy an NAP (Magnavox, Sylvania etc) for a year, they have just been bought out by Funai, who was Symphonic, one of the cheapest brands in human history.

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RE: that damned tv tech thread again...help. - 7/6/2008 7:59:11 PM

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ah well none of my lg products have ever broke down...
my parents have a 42" plasma lg...3 yrs old now ..works as new.

maybe if bought in america the products are bad.

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RE: that damned tv tech thread again...help. - 7/7/2008 10:00:03 PM

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All television screens are sized using the measurement of the diagonal of the screen rather than the height or width of the screen. Sizing actually uses the mathematical principles of the Pythgorean Theorem (the right triangle one for those that don't teach math everyday) to determine the sizing so that regardless of even the screen's aspect ratio (4:3 or 16:9) or even cabinet size, all 32" televisions should have a 32" diagonal measurement across the screen.

Oh and I would go with the LG over the ViewSonic.

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