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RE: corrective eye surgery - 7/11/2008 1:19:14 PM

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i don't know if anyone has said that the FDA is looking into this surgery for alot of the problems that are happening.

Is this the same rumor that has been floating around in some form since LASIK was first approved? Or is this something else? There is nothing on the FDA website about it.

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My uncle had an incident: the suction device slipped, and the laser or blade that was cutting across his eye did this:

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When I saw Lasik on How It's Made, they used a completely different system than what his video showed...

So 1) try and get a video of the procedure. 2) I only know of 2 people who did it, 50% success rate in small trials =D

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RE: corrective eye surgery - 7/11/2008 1:40:44 PM

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Wenchie luv... they'll give you valium if you flutter your eyelashes and ask nicely.

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RE: corrective eye surgery - 7/11/2008 2:28:45 PM

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That is even better than the tequila as i will not have the sudden urge to strip naked and get weird...

Thank you Cali! ~trying not to be distracted by certain pictures still in her mail box~

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RE: corrective eye surgery - 7/11/2008 7:51:28 PM

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I've wanted this done for years. Decades even. I started wearing glasses at age 5 and dream of being able to buy funky cheap sunglasses.

How bad is it, laying there and seeing something coming RIGHT AT YOUR EYEBALL? Honest to god I don't know if I could do that without flinching! Just thinking about it makes me physically shudder but wow, to only need reading glasses would be so cool.

Right now I have:
Reading glasses
Distance glasses
Bifocals
Sunglasses (distance)

I will have to wait because it seems my astigmatism is pretty awful and the few that I have spoken to said it would be a bad idea for me, but I still dream of being able to wake up and see the clock.
Being able to shave in the shower and see!
Able to swim, without that horrible feeling of being lost. Unable to find the pool edge then the hell of finding my towel once I'm out of the pool.

a horrible astigmatism was one of the reasons I was not a candidate for the Lasik, but the lens replacement surgery was a miracle worker for me. unfortortunately, it was all out of pocket. for me, it was worth it.

oh yeah, and I was given a happy pill before the surgery as standard procedure. the idea of the surgery itself had me pretty worked up, but the actual time it took was 7 minutes.

edited to add the last bit.

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RE: corrective eye surgery - 7/11/2008 8:13:37 PM

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Cali.
All I know is that some patient to start are not good candidates due to size of the cornea , poor lubrication of the eyes and other eye problems, and too many are doing any way. The FDA was having hearings and listening to patients with BAD outcomes.
Lens replacement is not cheap, but has alot better outcome with fewer problems. by alot of years of completed patients. Too many fly by night people are doing it, everyone needs to research and look around before they get it done. Just trying to help alittle.

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RE: corrective eye surgery - 7/14/2008 6:20:51 AM

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Mine is too old for the cost to be important.. I think I paid about $3500 for both eyes. THen again, I was not exactly shopping for bargains when I went looking for someone to shoot lasers at my eyes *laughs*.

Insofar as what went right... well, my vision came out very good. From something like 20/800 down to 20/20.

For what went wrong -- like most people, there are minor dry eye symptoms.. nothing bad, but if the weather is really dry, my eyes can be too dry to put out a proper tear film which makes my vision a bit blurry. An OTC eye drop solves the problem handily. I also have minor coronas around bright lights at night. Nothign bad... it's not an impediment to driving or anything... must more noticeable than it was.

Overall, the prices I paid were well worth being able to see my wife's face in the morning.

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RE: corrective eye surgery - 7/14/2008 10:05:07 PM

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I had Lasik done in April. It has been a godsend to me. I have wore glasses or contacts for 33 years. It's like freedom. I found the procedure comfortable, and well informed on the outcomes, what could happen, etc. The halos around lights have already just about totally disappeared, I was told that it could take a year, and possibly never. I was also told I could have dry eye syndrome, which is the biggest complaint right now to the FDA. If people looked at the numbers of procedures, and the actual number of complaints, it falls in line with the percentages they give you from the start. That's why it's ELECTIVE surgery. Those who say that the Lasik surgeons gloss over the possible side affects should go to where I went then. I followed the course of care given to me to the letter. I went home, took a 4 hour nap to rest the eyes, as recommended. When I awoke, my 20/400 vision was gone, it was now (as verified by my next day follow up appointment) 20/15. I went to a baseball game that night, and watched one for the first time in 33 years without glasses. All they asked is even though it was at night, to wear the wrap around sunglasses.

Every time I hear about complaints, I take them with the same grain of salt as I do the claims of any drug or medical procedure. I still have some dry eye, especially when waking. I might use rewetting drops twice a day. I know a few other people who had Lasik done, and their vision was great, but they complained about a lot of things, like the dry eye. I asked if that was in the literature, they said, "Yeah, but the docs should focus on it more." Well, you went to them with a vision problem, not a lecture on dry eye. And you had well over a week to read, and ask questions. They also never did their follow ups after the first one.

In this litigious society, and the boom in Lasik providers, no surprise it is now being demonized. Screw the naysayers, I say go for it, anyone that is a candidate. Remember the ultimate outcome is like mine, which is the case for 98% of all Lasik customers. If anyone says they know of someone who was "blinded" by Lasik, I'd really like to meet them. Seeing as there are at best a couple hundred cases, finding 10 people who personally say they know someone blinded certainly defies the odds.

Blindness, worse vision, double vision, dry eye syndrome, infections, no correction, all that can happen. It's like anything else, you must weight the risks. I have to use 1.25 power reading glasses for fine print. I was already needing that wearing glasses, even being nearsighted. I golf better, bowl better, and driving at night is much more comfortable. I was willing to buck those 2% odds that I would have a less than a positive outcome.

Now, I only have to remember where the hell I left my car keys. Before, I also had to find my glasses too.

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RE: corrective eye surgery - 7/14/2008 11:58:55 PM

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I had this surgery. It was absolutely the easiest, quickest, most pain free, inexpensive procedure I've ever had. I had horrible vision, plus terrible astigmatism (picture not being able to tell the direction of the Big E on the eye chart). My surgery was several years ago, and was at those lasik centers. My thought was this...my doctor had already done over 10, 000 surgeries-not like he wouldn't have "seen it all". It costs 1800 which the company financed for me. The hardest part was leaving my contacts out for a few weeks prior to the surgery and not wearing any makeup around my eyes a little bit of time beforehand. (A week if I remember correctly). A few weeks before I had a preliminary exam at a local eye doctor (who also did the follow up for the surgery), and he scheduled the appointment and gave me the directions to the center. The day of the surgery we drove to Atlanta, I sat in the lobby for a few minutes and watched other people's surgery through a glass window. I had papers to sign, (the usual gloom and doom type you see anytime you have a procedure of any kind performed.) Then I went in the office, they took some sort of photograph and measurements of my eyes, and prepped me for the surgery which pretty much consisted of whiping a betadyne solution around my eyes, and putting a gown over my clothes and booties over my shoes. Then I went into the room where they put drops in my eyes, followed by walking me into the laser room. I sat in a dentist-style chair that lay me back into a reclining position. The doctor put a clamp-like device on my eyelids that held them open...it felt odd, but not painful in any way. They offered me a little stuffed animal to hold, but I didn't feel the need for it. I was told to look up at a light. The light appeared blurry at first, then in a minute or two was perfectly clear. The only thing that seemed a little creepy to me was there was a slight smell of burning, and a little whisp of smoke. ZERO pain. They then did the other eye, and sat me up. The entire procedure took less than ten minutes. Like some other posters have said..I looked across the room and could read the clock. Heck, before the surgery I couldn't read the clock by my bed. After checking my preliminary vision, I was told to go rest, which I was ready to do since we left my hometown really early that morning and wear these big goggles over my eyes. Like others have said, you don't want to rub your eyes for a while and I think I had to wear the goggles at night for about two weeks. For that period I also had drops to put in my eyes, but even then, there was no pain. When I woke up I looked out the window of the hotel room and I could read signs across the street. ALL day long and for days after I kept saying..this is SO amazing! The doctor did tell me that the lasik surgery was no guarantee against the diminishing eyesight that all people get with aging, and now that I am in my 40's I am noticing that reading the back of a pill bottle, or the tiny print in the phone book is difficult, but these were things I expected. I would not trade getting this surgery for anything. It was one the BEST things I ever did for myself. There was nothing scary about this at all. There was no downtime. I had my surgery on a Friday, hung out around Atlanta for the weekend and saw the sights (ok, I did feel a little weird in my goggles for that first day), but I was back at work at Monday with no difficulty. There's no sense of having anything sliced or cut into. There's no blood, no pain. Heck, if you all can do this BDSM stuff, you'll be disappointed that this is so easy!

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RE: corrective eye surgery - 7/15/2008 8:28:56 AM

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Now, I only have to remember where the hell I left my car keys. Before, I also had to find my glasses too.

I know what you mean, lol. I have a bad habit of taking off my glasses when I get too wasted to see straight... the next morning is hell, I just had to get thin half-frames that I can barely spot, didn't I?! I have to put them in the same spot every night or else I'm screwed and can't go outside until I find them. And that usually involves waving my hand over flat surfaces hoping to knock them onto the floor.

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RE: corrective eye surgery - 7/15/2008 8:55:40 AM

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I personally swim with my glasses on. If course I don't do laps or go under water or dive in, if I did I guess I wouldn't, but for regular get in float about do casual laps on my back yup.

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Able to swim, without that horrible feeling of being lost. Unable to find the pool edge then the hell of finding my towel once I'm out of the pool.

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RE: corrective eye surgery - 7/15/2008 1:21:19 PM

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I've worn glasses since I was 7, contacts since 23 - a LONG time. My son lost his lens to a traumatic cataract 10 years ago. As a result I stay pretty current on eye surgery and technology. The last time we went to his doctor, who is a very highly regarded eye surgeon in California with a huge Lasik practice said this to me when I asked him about Lasik for me. "If the process evolved differently and the routine 'cure' for myopia was an invasive eye operation and someone came along and invented glasses and/or contact corrective lens that person would win the Nobel prize for medicine."

His point was if you don't have to operate don't do it. Even with the 0.000001% occurrence of serious issues, that's no consolation if you 'win' that lottery; some do. Meanwhile, I have 20/15 with contacts which I wear every waking hour. Sometimes they dry out. Infrequently, usually when I don't change them as often as recommended, I'll 'feel' them. I've been told that with such prolonged use I may someday not be able to wear them. I doubt I'll have the patience to wear glasses. When that occurs I may consider it. Until then - I keep putting a piece of plastic in my eye with the Doctor's thought in my mind.

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RE: corrective eye surgery - 7/16/2008 8:04:47 PM

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Not Lasik but implants because of cataracts.

Cost about $2000 each. Time it took was under 15 minutes.

I chose to have my implanted lenses be to replace reading glasses. But I do wear glasses for driving. The haloes have stopped, before the haloes from the cataracts were so bad that I was unable to drive at night. If I absolutely had to, I drove no more than 20 mph on the back roads instead of the 45 they're labeled at.

Now, eventually they will wrinkle and need laser surgery to correct them. But it's been 8 years since my first operation and I'm still fine.

Find a top notch surgeon. Mine's the best between Albany and NYC.

One weird thing is that after the first operation I couldn't get used to having the air touch my glasses. I wore sunglasses all the time to keep the breeze off them. It had been almost 40 years of wearing glasses and never having that sensation.

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