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RE: White house bastages - 7/18/2008 7:37:38 PM   
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I found it interesting that on Countdown tonight, they had an interview with one of the republicans who had been a co-author of the old "Contract on America." He was also a staff advisor to Pres. Reagan. This gentleman, (whos name escapes me, but I'm sure you can pull up the interview on the MSNBC/Countdown video site) said that he's voting Obama this year... and has written a majot op ed peice as to why...

Primarily, he feels that, with the lies about the War, and his overreach of Constitutional powers, that the Bush administration has placed America on the edge of irreperable damage to the Constitution. This, he says, is a situation that trumps any concerns about economy, education or any other issue... Basically, he's saying we're getting ready to flush the basic concepts of what it means to be an American down the toilet... and if we allow "McSame" to get in, and carry on the same shit-for-brains policies, then the grand experiment that is America will be essentially over. All other decisions, from the top concerns about the war and the economy, to made up distractions like flag burning, will be moot.

Check it out. I'm looking for a copy of the op ed peice he wrote now, but if anyone else finds it first, could you please post a link? I'll catch the repeat of Countdown shortly, and see if I can get the man's name...

Finally! A republican wakes the hell up!

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RE: White house bastages - 7/18/2008 8:50:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

Hey Owner59 et at liberats:

How about some substantive, moreover, irrefutable/undeniable proof that President Bush himself outted Valerie Plame?  Nevermind, there ain't none.

How about the Pentagon recently revealing that it just finished transferring almost 600 Metric Tons of "yellowcake" from Iraq to Canada?  You do know what "yellowcake" is, don't you?  That's the stuff that's used to fuel nuclear power plants and/or make nuclear weapons. Since Iraq has never had any nuclear power plants or a program to build any, that leaves only two reasons why it had so much of the stuff...to make nuclear weapons or give/sell/trade it to those who want to make nuclear weapons.

How about Obama the Messiah recently saying that the biggest threat facing the world today is terrorists getting hold of material to make nuclear weapons?  In light of the above it's rather obvious that President Bush realized that back in 2003.  Obama the Messiah has repeatedly viserally attacked President Bush for going after Saddam Hussein in Iraq rather than the terrorists in Afghanistan but that "yellowcake" was in Iraq not Afghanistan.  It's rather obvious that Obama the Messiah knows as little about other countries as he does about his own, and since he doesn't even know how many States comprise the United States of America that isn't very much at all.

Treason is indeed a criminal matter. In 1971, during his sworn testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, your last candidate for POTUS, John F. Kerry, self-incriminated himself not only as a traitor but a war criminal as well. How about explaining why he wasn't even charged with treason or war crimes, much less tried, convicted and imprisoned for same?  Nevermind, on Innauguration Day former liberat POTUS Jimmy Carter issued an Executive Order granting pardons to draft-dodgers and military personnel who had engaged in non-violent anti-war activities during the Vietnam War.  Note that Jimmy Carter also directed the Secretary of the Navy to have Kerry's original dischargefrom the Navy reviewed, whereupon the Kerry's original discharge was upgraded to "Honorable" (from ??) almost a decade after Kerry should have received an "Honorable" discharge had he in fact served honorably.

Obama the Messiah is a condescending elitist FRAUD.  




http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21903753/

http://www.reuters.com/article/middleeastCrisis/idUSN20642490

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubNHKwccCDE


There`s reams of proof.

The "yellow cake" story was a fraud.That`s old news.

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There was an CIA agent`s secret ID revealed and that was a crime.

The CIA refereed the matter to the DOJ for a criminal investigation.

The perps were exposed,but were either pardoned or left as un-indicted co-conspirators.

The crime happened,we know that.CIA assets were compromised,we know that.Damage was done,we know that and anyone who knew Valerie Plame or did business w/ her was now in danger from the foreign gov.`s agents/spys.And we know who was involved.

I think you`d get better traction if you trying blame Bill Clinton or the butler.


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To the folks who care about this stuff.

Imagine you`re a young FBI,CIA or some other LEO cadet-in-training.Imagine, you`re giving your all for your country and stepping up to fight the good fight, as a federal agent.

You`re just out of collage,going to advanced classes and to special training,learning a foreign language or another specialty and wondering what the future will bring,

You go through and graduate into your new roll, proud to do your part and join one of the elite,super secrete agencies.You take an oath to protect our nation,even if that means losing your life or if you`re luckier,a body part,But that`s the deal LEOs sign up for,....to protect us and our families at their own risk.


The least that our agents expect,at the very very least,those men and women(under-cover or not)expect that their own bosses won`t fuck them.

They of course,expect foreign agents/bad guys to try to expose them or worse,but they don`t expect this from their home.

This is like a bad Twilight Zone episode,only it`s real.

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This is going to make it harder to find good people to do there risky,tough but vitally important jobs out in the world.

If they think that they will be abused in such a way,they won`t commit.

If they know that they or their families will be targeted,by their own bosses,we aren`t going to get the best and the brightest working afield,doing delicate and specialized analysis.

These people are the eyes and ears of our nations intelligence services.These are the real patriots,who do the dirty ,dangerous work we need done.

They are heroes.

Neo-cons and their defenders, are something quite different.







One of the many ugly ironies of the crime was that Valery Plame worked on gathering intel and info about WMD.

A true waste of a good agent.A true waste of the CIA front business that hid her and her work.A true waste of all the money,man-hours and resources that went into making "Brewster-Jennings"(the CIA front business)a functioning operation.And a true waste of all the contacts that she and Brewster-Jennings" had.

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