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Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 7:37:40 AM

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Does anyone know of anything that actually takes the pain out of a burn? I burned my hand pretty bad with hot sugar and it's blistered and swollen. I'm using aloe with lidocaine and an ice pack but the pain is just unreal. It's making me nauseous and if I take the ice away for more than a second or two it's absolutely unbearable. The skin isn't broken.

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 7:40:51 AM

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Does anyone know of anything that actually takes the pain out of a burn? I burned my hand pretty bad with hot sugar and it's blistered and swollen. I'm using aloe with lidocaine and an ice pack but the pain is just unreal. It's making me naseous and if I take the ice away for more than a second or two it's absolutely unbearable. The skin isn't broken.

aloe is what i would have said. But try this...Make a strong tea (Lipton..et al) then add ice to make it cool.
This was suggested for one of my many sunburns and it did ease the pain

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 7:48:36 AM

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There is a prescription drug, called silvadine. It is from Heaven, girl. I got it the first time when I was preggers the first time, and fell asleep by the pool (in the shade) and the sun moved - and with it the shade, and I woke up with third degree sunburns on my legs. For real. Hospital visit, piped in fluids, I had a 'tan line' on my legs where the burn had 'started' for over 20 years, and never again got sunburned THERE.
This stuff is unbelievably good. After that experience, I spent my entire active parenting time - the whole time the UMS were littles - doing something sneaking and underhanded. Anytime we ran low on this salve from heavens door - well, the next little burn, i'd ring up my ped and explain that someone got a burn, and ask for more.
I am not sorry I did it. Since it is a perscription, there is never going to be research on this, but i believe this stuff stops a burn in process. When my son was 3, one fine Fourth of July night, he grabbed the buisness end of a sparkler that was being held for him to see. Do you read enough to know how hot those things are, and how bad those burns are? We grabbed him and ran too the kitchen, splashed cold water on it while we watched the blister crow and char before our very eyes, while someone ran for the first aid kit - then slapped the silvedine on it and actually watched the blister shrink back into his hand. In the morning, he had a red spot - a first degree burn. Honestly. WOW.
Go see the doc, or a minor emergency center. This is not a mind altering drug - it is a topical cream - so no one is going to put you on a watch list if you flat out ask for the stuff.
Good luck. feel better soon, I hope.

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 7:52:06 AM

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Thanks holly I will give that a try. I may end up having to go in and have it looked at. I think I might have cooked the tissue under the skin or something. It looks kinda weird. It's red around the outside but the burned area is all swollen and bright white.

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 7:53:55 AM

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For OTK stuff when I had 2nd degree burns ( and a bit of 3rd) from hot olive oil I used " Burn Jel Plus" by Water Jel. It stops the burns progression, and protects against infection. Worked like a charm. Well that, and an ice pack on my arm for 2 days straight.

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 7:54:30 AM

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It really does sound like you are describing a third degree burn. They are unbelievably painful, even when they are small in area. And the risk of infection is off the charts, girl.
BTW, they sell these special burn pads at the pharm. They are fluid filled, like little versions of what they use in the ER. I like to keep them in the freezer for when they are needed.

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 7:55:27 AM

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Thanks holly I will give that a try. I may end up having to go in and have it looked at. I think I might have cooked the tissue under the skin or something. It looks kinda weird. It's red around the outside but the burned area is all swollen and bright white.

Yikes, yeah you cooked it sweetie.. go in and get it looked at. It will get much worse if you dont.

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 7:55:55 AM

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Thanks tsatske> I was wondering if that stuff really worked. Maybe that is what I will have to do.

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 7:59:26 AM

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forget the tea!!!! You need a doctor...

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 8:01:12 AM

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Until you can get to a doctor (with whatever cream you use), keep it covered. My son had a third degree burn on his thigh after he managed to wake up early and microwave his bottle himself and the doctor said that it is the air that makes the burn "burn".

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 8:02:53 AM

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LOL....and they tell me I'm a pain slut!!! Not right now! I hate burns. I can not imagine what it would be like to be badly burned over a large area. I think I'd beg them to just put me out of my misery.

editing because i's my right hand that I burned....of course

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 8:02:54 AM

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ummmm, here is something that really does work but it has to be done as soon as a burn occurs. it's too late now but for next time, try yellow mustard. i call it the mustard pack.
immediately after burning yourself, (as long as there is no broken skin!) lavish yellow mustard on it and do not remove until it is completely dry. once it is dry and cracking, wash off, if there is still a little heat to the burn, repeat it one more time. it should work after the first time, if it doesn't you were probably on the verge of an immediate second degree burn. you will be amazed. do not apply to skin that is already blistered up because you risk getting an infection.

how unfortunate that sugar burns are one of the worst, sweetie! try the tea and keep the ice on it.

edited to add.... wrote this post i guess while you were describing it, agree that going to the doc would be good if it hasn't even started to blister. infections can be a bitch on burns.

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 8:04:35 AM

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Until you can get to a doctor (with whatever cream you use), keep it covered. My son had a third degree burn on his thigh after he managed to wake up early and microwave his bottle himself and the doctor said that it is the air that makes the burn "burn".

agree...but be sure to cover it with a nonstick telfa dressing

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 8:33:31 AM

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A bad burn on the hand i wouldn't mess around with, especially one that sounds like it may be full thickness. Scars on the hand are no laughing matter , and can interfer with normal function.

How is the old hand today?

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 10:41:43 AM

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Get to a doctor, and I totally agree with the silvadine it is a miricale cream. Always keep it on hand, my Dr gave me some when I burned my face with hot oil.
Good Luck and take care

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 4:09:54 PM

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Oh mistoferin that sounds awful and painful, you've my total sympathies. Burns HURT! I'm so sorry this happened to you and I hope you saw a doctor about it.

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 4:29:36 PM

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It really does sound like you are describing a third degree burn. They are unbelievably painful, even when they are small in area. And the risk of infection is off the charts, girl.
BTW, they sell these special burn pads at the pharm. They are fluid filled, like little versions of what they use in the ER. I like to keep them in the freezer for when they are needed.

Actually, the "3rd degree" portion of a burn doesn't hurt -- the nerves are dead and it doesn't start hurting until the nerves regenerate. A third degree burn is a classic-- the edges are crisped (often dark red or black) and the burn goes deep beyond the epidermis.However, it sounds to me like what she's describing is a 2nd degree burn with deep blistering, and those hurt like a B*TCH!

My recommendation is to continue with the cold baths. Cutting off the air supply from the burn will diminish the pain, and cold water baths are the most effective for that. Most people do not keep their burns under cold water long enough. The general rule is to keep the burn in cold water until you can go a full 10 minutes without extreme pain -- for some burns, this may mean cold or cold packs/damp cloths for up to 48 hrs... 20 minutes on, however many minutes off that you can manage until it starts hurting.

Do not put any ointment or gel on the burn until it is completely cooled. Sterile water (on gauze pads or telfa pads) with a cold pack for areas that can't be submerged is the best bet. After the burn has gotten to where you can handle not having it cold-packed and not have substantial pain, it's time for the silvadene ointment or aloe gel. Keep the area clean, and do NOT pop the blister(s). Avoid banging, bumping, or abrading the area -- the blistered skin is shielding raw, burned skin underneath and needs to have time for the skin to heal. As the burn heals, in many cases the area around the blister will gradually lose its moisture, and the skin on the surface will get tough/stiff. At this point, it becomes like a scab, and should not be picked unless you want a scar. The scab will eventually fall off as the tissue underneath heals.

If the area starts weeping pus, or the area out from the burn begins to become red and tender after the initial pain of the burn is over, OR if you notice streaks of red radiating out in any or all directions from the burn, get thee to an Emergency Room immediately.

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 6:15:37 PM

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Silvadine is yummy- but unless its over a large area... I don't think you need a doctor. Honestly- the best thing for a small burn like that is AFTER you've got it all cooled off.. don't keep putting cold packs on it. In my experience, you are just going to prolong the pain. For some reason, if I leave the burn alone after rinsing it off, it generally stops hurting after a bit. Actually as I'm typing this, I've got a nasty little burn about the size of a nickel on the side of my hand where I hit the stove and it pulled the skin off. Eep. A little aloe and a bandaid, and it doesn't hurt anymore.

And WTF to the people saying it's a full thickness/third degree burn?? What the hell are you thinking? Do you know what a full thickness burn is? I've seen them before... and you don't get them from a damn stove, you get them from molten metal being dumped on you, and anti-tank rockets exploding inside your humvee. A full thickness burn goes through bones... a third degree goes through muscle and tissues.

If you are going to google your medical advice, do it a little more thoroughly.

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/27/2008 6:23:12 PM

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Thank you all for all of the advice. I've gotten it taken care of. It is 2nd and 3rd degree burns. I dumped hot sugar glaze on my hand and my immediate reaction was to wipe it off with a cloth that was next to me, which only spread the glaze. I got it under cold running water right away which made the sugar turn into a hard shell that had to be picked off. I am amazed at how much your skin can stretch to accomodate the blistering. I'm trying to be really careful not to bang it on stuff so the blistering won't break open. I've had to keep ice packs on it most of the day...I take it off until I just can't stand it anymore which has only been a few minutes at a time....but it's getting a little longer each time. Ointment, bandages and pain meds... I swear, I am about as clumsy as they come. Sir is taking care of me as I am sooooooo right handed. I feel bad because I was supposed to be helping him out today with a dungeon furniture project he's been working on and all I ended up being able to do was keep him company. Ugh!

Thanks again everyone!

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RE: Burn remedies? - 7/28/2008 12:13:24 AM

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I am so glad you saw a physician, Erin. Take care and give youself time to heal properly. You will be less likely to have scare tissue that interferes with your regular activities. But the area will likely remain tender and sensitive to heat/cold/pressure for a long time.

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