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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/30/2008 11:07:49 AM   
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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/30/2008 12:07:02 PM   
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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/30/2008 12:14:59 PM   
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Why would people who look like models be any less likely than anyone else to be God-fearing and want an honest man for happily-ever-after?

It's Nigerian scammer code.  The word "God-fearing" means Nigerian scammer 99% of the time.  I've heard people speculate it's because they think devout Christians are less likely to doubt someone's integrity.  Ultimately, I don't know why it is true, but it is.  It might have something to do with their translation programs.


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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/30/2008 1:00:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
In fact I have pretty strict rules for meeting a prospective slave from here.

They must provide their own transportation to ME.
They must provide their own housing while they are here, until I feel comfortable having them in my home.
They must bring extra money for themselves in case they have any unforseen problems.

Basically, until I tell them I want them as mine, living in my home......they are expected to be a grown up and take care of themself.


We discourage people we encounter online from travelling to NYC simply to meet us, unless they live nearby.  We prefer our first face-to-face meeting with anyone to be low-key, and having anyone undergo the burden and expensive of travel would put more pressure on us all than we would like.  Fortunately, our city has many other attractions, and we have met a couple of submissives who coming to NYC for other reasons.

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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/30/2008 1:21:54 PM   
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Did you happen to notice that big, red banner that shows up when using c-mail?

DO NOT SEND MONEY TO OTHER USERS FOR ANY REASON!


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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/30/2008 1:34:21 PM   
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We discourage people we encounter online from travelling to NYC simply to meet us, unless they live nearby.  We prefer our first face-to-face meeting with anyone to be low-key, and having anyone undergo the burden and expensive of travel would put more pressure on us all than we would like.  Fortunately, our city has many other attractions, and we have met a couple of submissives who coming to NYC for other reasons.


Saying NYC has many other attractions is an understatement. I spent 2 weeks house-sitting a flat in the Lower East Village last August. What an amazing city. Shame I didn't get a chance to meet any resident kinky-folks, that would have been soooo cool. Maybe next time? ;-)


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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/30/2008 3:27:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some one mentioned the phrase "God-fearing woman".

What is up with that anyway?   Is that the nigerian equivalent of being a super-model?

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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/30/2008 4:00:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you are God-fearing and God is supposed to be everywhere and in everything is that like being afraid of everything all the time?

Also, be extremely cautious about anyone demanding anything financial from you ever. As well as personal information beyond name and a pic. If you sincerely want to help somebody with travel expenses buy them a plane or bus ticket using a credit card (don't give them the number, do it yourself) so that if it truns out to be a scam you can reclaim the loss by calling your card company.

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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/30/2008 4:05:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		a lot of Ghanans and Nigerians use "God-feaing" as way to appeal your sympathetic side. one time i had a scammer wanting to borrow money and used this line "but i know i'm God-fearing man ...you can trust me - i promise to repay you." i questioned the "God-fearing" part by asking the scammer what was his favorite Biblical quote besides John 3:16. he didn't reply back after that - i guess he left to look for a Bible.

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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/30/2008 4:52:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TwoNYCDommes

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If she looks like a model and her profile is omg kinky sex to die for, well, hmmmmm.  If she looks like a model and she is "just a simple God-fearing woman who wants an honest man to live with for the rest of my life," then double-hmmmmmmm.


Why would people who look like models be any less likely than anyone else to be God-fearing and want an honest man for happily-ever-after?


They are not less likely.

But they get snatched up by the first half-way decent person they meet.

This changes the odd tremendously. 


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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/30/2008 4:59:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		  Pretty much the only situation I can see it being okay to pay someone who is demanding you money is if a LDR partner is coming to visit for the first time-and they live overseas.

  Other than that, I can't see wanting to meet someone who was so broke they couldn't afford to make it to the meeting without financial assistance...though gas is expensive, a potential partner without two twenties to rub together probably isn't worth my, your, anyone's time.

  I would, however, supply pie to the right partner. Pie is a different story entirely.

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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/30/2008 4:59:27 PM   
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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/30/2008 9:04:34 PM   
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She's more likely to exist if her photo was taken with a cell phone in the bathroom, instead of by a team of photographers on the beach.

Quit perving my profile, RedMagic!

To the OP- RM has given good advice. If you are in contact with these people outside of CM (regular email), I suggest you learn how to do an IP search. It's rather amazing how many "prospective partners" turn out to be in West Africa, no matter where they tell you they are. Don't trust phone numbers, as many scammers use call forwarding services to hide their real location (for example, a UK phone number with an 070 prefix is a "follow me" number that can be set to ring on a scammer's phone no matter where he really is).

On the god fearing thing, RM is right. That is a big red flag, as it turns up quite often in scam mails. Believe it or not, many scammers are "christian", and take Sundays off so they can go to church and ask god to send them good magas (victims who will pay). Also, the vast majority of them are males who use girlfriends or female family members for phone calls.

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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/31/2008 3:30:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think  more background info is needed before assuming it is a scam ....what is the money for?  travel expenses to you?  if so is the relationship long distance?  did you asked prior if they could afford traveling expenses to meet with you

I do and have gotten inquiries from Doms  that are a long distance from me.. now I know between paying a mortgage, house repairs, utilities, upkeep for 2 vehicles, 4 dogs  I do  not have the extra funds for traveling, paying hotel rooms, eating out sitting/boarding  cost for my dogs while I am away ... which I am upfront about because I do not want to be put in a position where I may need to ask for financial help  or go into debt  if they decide I should come to them  ...I don't having to pay some expenxes but do not wish to go into debt for a possible relationship..  If they wish to pursue a relationship from long distance then it would be preferable that they travel first to see me .., the sub in question may simply not be able to afford the costs of relationship if some distance is involved... I am not low income ...have met both subs and doms financially in far worse shape than myself who would hard pressed to be in a relationship 20 miles apart nevermind a few humdred  miles apart., and with rising living costs due to increased prices of fuel many are feeling the pinch even more nowadays  ..it does not mean you should send cash... but lets say you are demanding they make changes in their wardrobe to accommodate your tastes ..are you willing to purchase them yourself and assume the costs of ..if it would cause financial hardship for the sub  yes their are scammmers which is why cash itself should not be sent


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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/31/2008 3:41:21 AM   
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I would like to know from anyone how often they get asked by potential submissives to send them money before meeting and what you do about it.

Over the past few years I have had about 10 people ask for money and I have refused as I have been caught out with sending money to someone in the past and never saw them or the money again.


ukmaster

Depends on the circumstances. Is she your long standing "s"? Do you want her to travel to you and if so why should she pay the costs to do so?

I have sent money in the past and never had a doubt.

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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/31/2008 4:10:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
In fact I have pretty strict rules for meeting a prospective slave from here.

They must provide their own transportation to ME.
They must provide their own housing while they are here, until I feel comfortable having them in my home.
They must bring extra money for themselves in case they have any unforseen problems.

Basically, until I tell them I want them as mine, living in my home......they are expected to be a grown up and take care of themself.


We discourage people we encounter online from travelling to NYC simply to meet us, unless they live nearby.  We prefer our first face-to-face meeting with anyone to be low-key, and having anyone undergo the burden and expensive of travel would put more pressure on us all than we would like.  Fortunately, our city has many other attractions, and we have met a couple of submissives who coming to NYC for other reasons.


I live in rural SE Iowa. If someone from this site is coming here, chances are, it's going to be to see me. We are not exactly a tourist mecca. Although the sweetcorn is probably the best in the world at the moment.

I don't feel any pressure, quite simply because I am not forcing anyone to come here.

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RE: Submissives requesting money - 7/31/2008 4:41:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		"Oh yeah honey, I just mailed you out $1,000.00 cash, (laughing to myself) Would it be sadistic to send somebody Monopoly Money?"

I actually did send somebody money and I got all of it back, since she promised to pay me back.  Later I sent her about half the amount of what I sent the first time as a gift (no payback).  She did not ask me for money, it was my idea to send it to help her out.   The money got used to cover the things it was needed for.  Needless to say, she was a little less then honest in a few areas of her life.  So does this mean I was half scammed? (shrugging shoulders with puzzled expression on my face). 

When it comes to money, only send money that you can afford to loose and you won't get pissed off about if things don't work out.  Avoid the obvious scam jobs and read up about them a little.

Anybody that demands it or holds a prospective relationship hostage in Lieu of money, should be a red flag.

Financial domination, this topic is a bit tricky, if that's your thing.  At least people are being honest about wanting money and are upfront about it being Financial domination.   If that's your kink, I recommend you hold onto your cash and only give it to somebody you're in a "real time" relationship with.

Sending money to somebody you are in go nowhere relationship is not a bright idea.  Even more so if you have bills and responsibilities of your own (including kids).  Avoid placing yourself in a financial hardship.

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