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PoeticMotion -> BDSM and pregnancy... (8/12/2008 4:23:10 AM)

My girlfriend/submissive is pregnant.

Now, before I get flamed, I am well aware that this is going to result in major lifestyle changes for both of us. I'm entirely prepared to take all necessary safety precautions, and will be extremely overly cautious in any circumstance that could impact our unborn, or after he/she is born.

Also, before I get flamed, we've spent many hours discussing the whole matter  of pregnancy. So before someone says it, no, this was not the first or even twentieth things to cross our minds.

That being said, neither one of us are willing to entirely give up our power exchange-based relationship aspects for this. I will be overly cautious, and she has already said she will speak frankly to her OB/GYN about our activities, but I'm interested in how other members of this board have handled pregnancy in relation to a dom/sub relationship, especially medically.

Specifically (and she will consult with her OB/GYN as well, and I WILL err on the side of caution), what medical issues come up and what types of play can we/can we not engage in safely, and up to what point in her pregnancy?

We talked about this tonight and it made me think; I was prepared to give up all aspects of BDSM for the duration of her pregnancy, but she wishes that if it's possible to be completely safe, she doesn't want that.

Obviously, any sort of impact play will have to be sharply curtailed. No floggers, as if I wrapped, it could possibly inpact on her sides/front, and I'm good with a flogger, but not willing to take the risk (nor is she). I figure spanking would be OK, at least for the first couple of trimesters; same with a riding crop, along her ass/thighs/back, although lightly so as not to jar her and I'd want to make sure she was well cushioned.

Breath play is definitely out as is anything which could constrict breathing; knife play would be with no breaking of the skin. I think candlewax play would be fine on her back, but definitely not front. I'm not sure about nipple clamps; obviously bondage will have to be in fairly comfortable, non-constricting positions that I could quickly release her from if necessary, and even then, probably there will come a point where we have to cut BDSM out of our lives until after the birth. She's only at one month right now, though, so we want to know how long into the pregnancy we can do what.

I'm really going to hate putting my floggers away for the next eight months, but I'm not willing to take any chances with my unborn. Or is this a risk? I'm not sure. That's why I'm posting.

What are your thoughts as far as what we can do, what is safe to do, to what point in the pregnancy? Obviously, the OB/GYN has the final opinion, but given that we as a community know far more about BDSM than your average OB/GYN (unless we are lucky and get a kinky one), I value your input as well.

How did those who have been through this deal with it?

I thank you in advance for your help.




RCdc -> RE: BDSM and pregnancy... (8/12/2008 4:36:27 AM)

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PrincessJ77 -> RE: BDSM and pregnancy... (8/12/2008 6:51:11 AM)

First of all.  Congratulations.  Best time in my life was when I was pregnant.  (Although I was still vanilla at the time.)  That being said, glad you are being cautious.  Bastinado is a possibility, flogging the thighs...  figging, the delicious g/s...  a multiude of non impact play ideas. 




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: BDSM and pregnancy... (8/12/2008 8:37:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PoeticMotion

My girlfriend/submissive is pregnant.


Specifically (and she will consult with her OB/GYN as well, and I WILL err on the side of caution), what medical issues come up and what types of play can we/can we not engage in safely, and up to what point in her pregnancy?


I did an article on this a number of years ago for Sandmutopian Guardian, as a midwife who worked with couples in fetish lifestyles.

The power dynamic does not have to change because someone is pregnant. Some aspects of it require adaptation, but most of it is common sense.

A couple of things I think are important:

* after the middle of the 2nd trimester, it was my experience that enemas caused an increase in Braxton-Hicks (warmup or "prelabor") contractions in many women. For women who are in their first pregnancy or who have a history of premature labor, avoiding enemas during the 2nd half of the pregnancy is a good idea.

* anything having to do with blood play is probably better being avoided during pregnancy, only because of the increased risk of infection. Infections are hard on both mother and baby, and there are a limited number of antibiotics that can be used during pregnancy.

* do not douche or force liquids into the vagina. During pregnancy, in particular, because of the increased blood flow, this can cause an embolism.

* Keep flogging to the back and back of the thighs. Avoid the kidney area as the kidneys are working overtime during pregnancy (even with gentle flogging, during which some folks tend to 'fudge' the safe-strike zones).

* Avoid forcing a pregnant woman to hold one position for more than 15-20 minutes. Pooling blood can increase swelling of the lower extremities and aggravated circulatory problems that are already complicated by increased blood volume.

* When kneeling, make sure there is some cushioning under the knees, that posture is maintained to avoid straining the back, and that the position is changed at least every 15 minutes.

*squatting (open pelvis position--knees spread to the width of the shoulder-blades or more) is an excellent 'display' position and is also -excellent- preparation for labor, and should be encouraged.

* avoid beatings with canes, etc., during the 2nd half of the pregnancy. Increased blood volume can cause severe hematomas and deep muscle bleeding. The skin is also thinner during the 2nd half of the pregnancy, because of hormonal changes, so harsher tools will do damage faster, some tools that may not have broken the skin before could do so, bruises will come up more quickly, and deep bruising will be more common.

There are some other things that I'll be happy to share, if you're interested. You're welcome to post me on the other side with questions at any time.

Calla Firestorm Bladewing






MadameXTC -> RE: BDSM and pregnancy... (8/17/2008 4:31:34 AM)

I think playing during pregnancy just depends on what you both are comfortable with. Some things I personally wouldnt want to do, and some things I dont think would be too safe for others to do. But thats just me. I dont judge others on what they do. I remember my partner and I playing in a public dungeon when I was five months pregnant and all the looks we got. What is good for one person is definatly not good for everyone..Talk with the ob/gyn about what is going on if they are kink friendly. What my partner and I did was-
light discipline/ very light bondage
nothing that got me too excited cause obviously it will come to a point when having too much fun might bring on premature labor. I think we played like we normally did anyways up until I was about 14-16 weeks.(flogging/ paddles/restraints etc) After that everything was much softer, like flogging only with soft floggers, and the padded paddle if that, it started becoming more service oriented then discpline etc)  That was just what worked for us. Soon everything had to stop  and I was becoming too miserable to play. I also have asthma and was sick as a dog during my second pregnancy so there were many times we did nothing. The biggest thing i would suggest is check on the submissive/ slave often during play to make sure everything is okay. Pregnancy takes a huge toll on some people's body and not everyone can do the same as the next person. Drink lots of water/rest often and remember never ask to many questions at the dr's office. :)




NakedOnMyChain -> RE: BDSM and pregnancy... (8/19/2008 8:11:09 PM)

Calla covered everything I was going to say, and did a great job of it, so I have nothing to add except my hardy congratulations.  Being a parent is a rare joy, and I wish you and yours the best.




tweedydaddy -> RE: BDSM and pregnancy... (9/26/2008 3:52:38 PM)

we played through three pregnancies, gently, sorry about the floggers, but the welts might freak the midwife and get you arrested, but then MILKING!!! Whohoo!




novabunny -> RE: BDSM and pregnancy... (10/20/2008 1:19:34 PM)

Congratulations to you both :)  i was nilla when pregnant with my daughter but still enjoyed some lightly kinky stuff with hubby at the time. lol  She will find the further on in pregnancy she gets the more protective she will become of the bump*lil one* its a natural reaction to her body changing.  Wishing you all the best for your new arrival.
 
x nova x




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