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OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 9:31:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		i've just been diagnosed with a metric assload of things (diabeasties, exceedingly high blood pressure, shockingly astoundingly high cholesterol, kidney damage) along with the "normal" stuff i deal with (chronic unending pain, fibromyalgia, migraines, nerve pain).

the ONLY thing available to help with the pain issues that i've found OTC is aleve.  i have now been told "only tylenol, ONLY 2 pills 4x daily".  tylenol does not work for me.  i may as well be rubbing skittles over my naked flesh for all the good it would do (may as well, cant eat the little things any more).  and yes, i told the good doctor this....she kind of shrugged and let it slide.  no other options given.

can anyone recommend anything else that i could run by the heartless bit...i mean my good doctor?  cause...

at the moment it hurts to put clothes on.

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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 9:34:23 AM   
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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 9:54:07 AM   
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have you thought of going to a pain clinic?


its on the list of things to do...

after the divorce is final
after we can get married
so he can put me on his insurance.

once that is done, we can find out *why* i'm in chronic pain and get something done about it.  right now he's paying everything out of pocket and that adds up fast.  (over $400 in 2 doctor visits, two lab visits, and 3 scrips.)

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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 10:20:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		can you take to your doctor about the National Kindey Fund (aka End Stage Renal Disease Program)? I am not sure how far progressed the renal desease needs to be to qualify but it is a fund to asst patients in renal failure with certain medications. If your doctor cannot answer your questions call a dialysis center in your area and ask to speak to the social worker on staff.




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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 10:43:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a related question about this topic.  What over the counter pain relievers can you take while you are pregnant?  I pulled a muscle in my back and I have sucked it up as long as I can. 

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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 11:29:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		i had alot of muscle pain when i was pregnant. The doctor reccommended an OTC pain reliever and ice (it was between my shoulder blades so a bag of frozen peas conformed to the area). The ice really helped. The best thing you can do is to call your Dr though.

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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 11:39:56 AM   
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I have a related question about this topic.  What over the counter pain relievers can you take while you are pregnant?  I pulled a muscle in my back and I have sucked it up as long as I can. 


The only OTC you can use during pregnancy is Tylenol. Sorry...

Cold packs for the 1st 24 hours, and warm/moist heat after that will help considerably. Don't soak in a hot tub, though -- it can raise the body temperature too much and cause problems for the baby.

If you go into the ER, though, they may be able to give you some Phenergan (which is safe during even 1st trimester). It is an anti-emetic, but it also relaxes muscles and provides some sedation. Your doctor needs to see you, though, to determine how much and how often (this is NOT available OTC -- only by prescription).

Aspirin and other NSAIDs can be dangerous during pregnancy, and can increase bleeding, cause bleeding in the fetus, or cause placental bleeds. If taken at the end of pregnancy, they can increase the risk of hemorrhage during delivery.

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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 11:51:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		The ice helped a great deal because it reduced the swelling. I used the same bag of peas throughout the whole third trimester. 

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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 2:53:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why aren't you allowed to take aleve?  While it will mess up your stomach as long as you have your stomach lined with something.  What is it hurting?

I know what you mean by tylenol being worthless.  As a chronic headache sufferer..it truly is worthless. 

I generally live on excedrin migraine.  The caffiene, acetaminophen and aspirin mixture works fabulous for me.

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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 3:29:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Aleve is an nsaid... nsaids cause vasoconstriction (constricts blood flow). For someone who already has "exceedingly high blood pressure" this is not a good thing as high blood pressure is partially caused by the constriction of blood flow. Also, since the kidneys are already compromised, you don't want to restrict blood flow to them either. One of the long term effects of diabetes is circulation problems. Basically, you have many things going on that would just be compounded by the use of an nsaid.
Get to a pain clinic as soon as you can is about the only advice i can give - sorry...

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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 5:20:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		You may want to consider visiting a chiropractor. I've been dealing with nerve pain and migraines for a good while, and a visit with the chiropractor always seems to help. Also, there are theories out there that state that if your spine is misaligned and damaging nerves, then your body is not able to properly heal its self. So, it may help you feel better all around.

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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 5:39:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

can you take to your doctor about the National Kindey Fund (aka End Stage Renal Disease Program)? I am not sure how far progressed the renal desease needs to be to qualify but it is a fund to asst patients in renal failure with certain medications. If your doctor cannot answer your questions call a dialysis center in your area and ask to speak to the social worker on staff.


fortunately the kidney damage isnt that bad as yet.  the albumin level should be in the under 30 range, mine was at 82.  that's "microalbumin" acording to the results (30-299) and since i havent had 3 consistantly high readings in 6 months, its not critical yet.

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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 5:42:47 PM   
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Why aren't you allowed to take aleve?  While it will mess up your stomach as long as you have your stomach lined with something.  What is it hurting?

I know what you mean by tylenol being worthless.  As a chronic headache sufferer..it truly is worthless. 

I generally live on excedrin migraine.  The caffiene, acetaminophen and aspirin mixture works fabulous for me.



apiercedkitty was right.  it can raise the blood pressure *and* aleve is naproxen sodium.  too much sodium isnt a good thing either.  (and i was taking quite a bit to get an effect....2 every 8 hours.)

excedrine migraine gets things to where i can just about deal with it, not have relief.  when the migraines hit its give up, throw up, and lie down for a few hours till my body is cooperative again. 

kitten

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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 5:44:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SlaveSimone

You may want to consider visiting a chiropractor. I've been dealing with nerve pain and migraines for a good while, and a visit with the chiropractor always seems to help. Also, there are theories out there that state that if your spine is misaligned and damaging nerves, then your body is not able to properly heal its self. So, it may help you feel better all around.

Good luck,
Simone



one of the possible causes for the nerve pain has been commented on is MS.  chiro can work wonders but i think that's a bit past them. and i had the same problems when i was seeing a chiro years ago.  thanks though. 

kitten, who is gonna be hanging in there till the insurance is able to be gotten....

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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 7:17:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Kitten,
My experience is to use a chiropractor in conjunction with a massage therapist.  Seriously!! Before i started receiving massages, i could not stand for any more than 1.5 minutes, and could not walk anymore than 4 feet. Now, i can walk two miles and can stand for almost an hour or so.....
The other thing i wonder about is do You by any chance have sleep apnea?
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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/22/2008 10:28:54 PM   
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Kitten,
My experience is to use a chiropractor in conjunction with a massage therapist.  Seriously!! Before i started receiving massages, i could not stand for any more than 1.5 minutes, and could not walk anymore than 4 feet. Now, i can walk two miles and can stand for almost an hour or so.....
The other thing i wonder about is do You by any chance have sleep apnea?
Kali



i dont have traditional sleep apnea.  i can breathe just fine....as long as i'm on my side.  i've not been able to breathe when lying on my back since i was an adult.  (i even stop breathing if i'm awake and flat on my back, if i'm not actively breathing heavily, as if in play.)

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RE: OTC pain relievers - 8/23/2008 7:33:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Kitten,
The reason i asked if You have sleep apnea is because there's a direct correlation between sleep apnea and high blood pressure, diabete, over whelming body pain, etc.  My recommendation would be to talk to Your MD about getting a sleep study done.

Any questions please feel free to contact me.
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RE: OTC pain relievers - 9/21/2008 12:30:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		If your diagnosis is recent, you still have to feel the benefit of a change in diet. Diabetes in particular has many side effects which can be alleviated within weeks.

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