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Branding - 11/28/2005 11:30:54 AM

soops

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I was wondering. Is the ritual of branding is still performed? I see a ton of information on the cerimony of contracts and collaring. But there isn't much out there with regards to slave branding. Does this still exist?
Thank you in advance for the responses.

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RE: Branding - 11/28/2005 1:12:56 PM

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Yes, it is still done. The easiest method is with a cauterizing pen. They heat up to very high temp (so this means they can be used on multiple people, if used as intended (well, sort of)), are battery powered and disposable. And, you use them like you would write with a pen.

To see/purchase one, go here:

http://kinkymedical.net/html/pierce-cut-caut.html

Scroll down to Cautery Pen. There's probably places where you can get them cheaper, but these people are nice to deal with, in my experience.

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RE: Branding - 11/28/2005 4:11:31 PM

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dear s oops,
greetings,
i ,almost thot you knew branding ,cause ,that's what my top said, when she did it to me:" ssss;
ooops?!"
i got branded.
i was surprized.
no one was ever like her.
no one can take her place ,in my life.
it was a wooden block, with embedded metal, in a letter shape; sticking, out.
i ,forgot how she heated it ,until it lit ,up like a black-smith bending a steel horse-shoe ,on an anvil .
a pretty blowing glass color.
it was, over, in a second.
it was done, inbetween filming.she always had special presents ,for me.
i don't even know why she did'nt film it ,at all ,or if she did.
i was, so proud; i did'nt want, to, put ,on my pants, for days.
i kinda felt stupid ,for letting someone brand me (almost ,in a gang;group- think),esp. if it turned ,out ,to be a lark, but, it was'nt.
only instruction, if any was; the sleezy guy who made it ;stalking us(maybe ,all his pressure, too...)saying,to her ;
"ya-ya- do it- go ahead - do it- do it.-"!....she pushed it ,into my backside, and, it sizzled ;.... ssssss ....;bruned flesh smell, instant.
i'd recommend 'emla creme', to numb yourself first, but ,it was, nothing and ,less ,than 6 seconds,or the same time it takes, to fall ,out ,of a plane,at 11,000 feet ,and ,screw yourself, into the ground (it comes ,up ,on you ,that fast ,and,bam:it's done!!. )

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RE: Branding - 11/28/2005 6:00:37 PM

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you might want to ask the goreans for some of their parctices. i'm pretty sure it is common practice to brand kijira.

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RE: Branding - 11/29/2005 4:19:32 PM

Wolf1020

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There are several methods three of which I know of.

The first being as fire said.

The second basicly involves metal and a blow torch. Metal is heated cherry red and then pressed to the skin. Just be careful of the metal, it needs to be free of rust and certian types of metal have chemicles in or on them. Also any slag needs to be brushed off. If oyu have ever welded or seen a blacksmith working you know what slag is. Basicly when you heat the metal impurities rise to the top. It will be visable as a scale on the hot metal, these can be be temoved with a metal wire brush...since you are about to touch someone with it preferably a clean one. Basicly you heat the metal touch heat touch and so on. Also some people sell branding irons like what they use on cattle, thats the best way if you want to use metal for a brand. It is also likly the quickist since it does the entire thing in one touch.

And the last actualy involves an electric gun. Unlike the cuaterizing pen this one works by zapping you, the zap causing a burn.

I wouldn't suggest branding alone for a few reasons. One jsut like a tat brands cant be undone. You screw up and slip you cant just erase it. Also to deep and you can cause damage to the underlying tissue, to shallow and it will heal without leaving a lot of scar. Lastly ever smelled burning skin and hair? We arn't talking a quick burn from splashing youself. We are talking from several seconds of compltly burnign away flesh with a branding iron to much longer with the pens. It isn't a smell you want in your house.

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RE: Branding - 11/29/2005 6:02:59 PM

Wildfleurs

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quote:

ORIGINAL: soops

I was wondering. Is the ritual of branding is still performed? I see a ton of information on the cerimony of contracts and collaring. But there isn't much out there with regards to slave branding. Does this still exist?
Thank you in advance for the responses.

Yep my owner branded me this summer. Theres some information about it available at:

www.wildfleurs.com/brand

1) There was absolutely no smell when he branded me. WE've been to two other branding ceremonies and there was absolutely no smell at them either.

2) Brands typically fade after several years (they aren't always permenant).

3) Don't use a branding iron used for cattle. Because a brand spreads, its important to use a super thin metal. We had friends who did metal work who made the branding iron for us. The rule of thumb that worked well for us is that you take the branding iron design and then take a thick ass magic marker and draw the design tracing the iron and thats about as much as it will spread.

4) Don't do a closed loop with a branding iron.

5) It will look prettier with a cauterizing pen, but for us the brand still looks very nice with the iron and it was all about him marking his property - what else would you mark your property with but a branding iron?

6) Moooooooo

C~

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RE: Branding - 11/30/2005 12:41:38 AM

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I've never been branded and it doesn't really interest me, however I have had a procedure where the flesh inside my nose was cauterised with a pen and the smell was terrible. I can't imagine anything worse than smelling your own flesh burning, it left me in tears for hours and I don't think it was the pain so much as the smell.

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RE: Branding - 11/30/2005 10:29:06 AM

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Wild-
That no smell is a first for me. Anytime I have smelled burning flesh as wet said the smell has been horrible. Knew someone when I lived in NJ that did brands for people on occasion and he said the smell wasnt to pretty either. I agree though obviously on not using an iron designed for cattle.

You also say it fadded, just how much? I've never heard of a brand completly fadding (though as with a tat a certian amount perhaps) that was done deep enough. Just how long was the iron applied in your case?

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RE: Branding - 11/30/2005 2:17:58 PM

Wildfleurs

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wolf1020

Wild-
That no smell is a first for me. Anytime I have smelled burning flesh as wet said the smell has been horrible. Knew someone when I lived in NJ that did brands for people on occasion and he said the smell wasnt to pretty either. I agree though obviously on not using an iron designed for cattle.

You also say it fadded, just how much? I've never heard of a brand completly fadding (though as with a tat a certian amount perhaps) that was done deep enough. Just how long was the iron applied in your case?

Its just been my experience in my branding and the ones I've seen that theres no smell. The commonality is that they were all strike/iron brands so that may have been why. Brands via a cautery pen may smell more.

My brand hasn't faded at all. We just did it in August and we also did it deep on purpose (so that it wouldn't fade easily). You can see a slideshow of the healing at:

www.wildfleurs.com/brand

But of the brands I know of they faded at varying rates:

- Person A: faded after a couple of years
- Person B: took about seven year
- Person C: took about six or so years
- Person D: faded under a year
- Person E: faded under a year

These were all with irons, so again I don't know if its different with cautery pens.

C~

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RE: Branding - 11/30/2005 4:04:16 PM

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I read a piece from a guy who was concerned with brandign his slave beccause brands tend to bleed into a pudle of scar tissue caused by the damage to the tissue surrounding the branding site. He devised this iron that had a metal plate around it which he put in the freezer, then took the heated brand slipped it into the hole in the center of the frozen plate and branded his girl, the frozen plate prevented the tissue around the branding site from getting hot and damaging the surrounding tissue and therefore the brand was cleaner (it almost looked like a colorless tatoo it was so sharp. But for the life of me I can't recall where I saw this site, anyone else out there seen it? Tested his theories? I suspect that it might have been a Gorean sight I stumbled on early on when I was wanting to understand what Goreanism was. tray googleing perhaps?

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RE: Branding - 11/30/2005 4:43:43 PM

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wild-
Thats interesting. Im not an expert I've just never heard of a brand fadding like that, I'd wonder if maybe since it was done with an iron if the brand wasn't set deep enough or something.

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RE: Branding - 12/1/2005 12:57:06 PM

plantlady64

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Hello There,
Yes it does still happen in todays society.
I am being branded 2/24/06 in my collaring ceremony by Master Rick. I've been doing research into branding for about 6 months now.
The dungeon in Dallas Texas the Sanctuary For The Lifestyle Arts even has a branding area in their club.
I think it's more common than you'd think.
Sincerely,
sub suzanne

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RE: Branding - 12/1/2005 7:56:05 PM

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bradning can fade depending on how the person scars and what not there are ways to make the scar more raised and more noticable . as far as useing a cauterizing pen on multiple people unless you change the tips i wouldn't if i were you.Some have said that the [en doesnt heat up enough nor last long enough or deep enough for the right depth but they were working on a big brand project. www.bmezine a site for any mods branding scarification piercing tattoos ect awsome site has alot of info check there.

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RE: Branding - 12/1/2005 8:11:14 PM

kuntbaby

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I highly recommend electrocautery branding. It heals a lot quicker and cleaner. Once the tip of the tool is removed from your skin all the pain disappears. Unfortunately, I don't have any pics of my electrocautery brand on my profile, but I do have a picture of my strike branding. I keloid easily, which is why it is so raised....my other scarification pieces have keloided as well. My Dominant has a picture of his fresh electrocautery branding on his profile (sadistichell) if you are interested.

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RE: Branding - 12/28/2005 4:52:51 PM

cacodylic

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After 20 years, my brand -- upper/outer part of buttcheek -- has faded to virtual invisibility. My lady used two irons I had made of heavy stainless steel wire {~ coat hanger diameter}, one a heart [not completely closed --important!!!], the other her initials, designed to fit in the heart.

Prior to the event, I applied anesthetic cream to the area, removed before the actual branding. The area was chilled both before and afterward with unopened cans [tuna, if you must know] which had been in the freezer for a few hours. This not only cuts down on [but does not eliminate] the pain, but minimizes unnecessary tissue damage and speeds healing. The smell is like burning hair -- unpleasant, but no biggie.

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RE: Branding - 12/29/2005 7:19:59 PM

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Freeze branding.

Small, heavy gauge brass branding iron, immersed in liquid nitrogen. No burning odor, smarts but not like a firebrand or electric brand.

Damage is minimal, brand is permanent, after the scab sloughs off it's delightfully pink.

My first was a small rising sun icon with TM centered in it. I removed the TM because the letters blotched too much. The rising sun is an emphatic trademark without the blotched center. Works great.

Show Me a boy who's a keeper with a cute butt, and I'll show you My brand.... ; )

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RE: Branding - 1/1/2006 2:33:05 AM

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post on Brands

my thoughts on branding types are in this post...

i still contend that electro cautery branding is the most painfull because of the time and detail it takes...any branding if done right (deep enough) will not hurt like being on fire after the iron is removed because of the degree of burn...and to get a sucessful scar, yes you do need a 3rd degree burn, however thin or "small" which kills the nerve endings in that area, not to mention the endorphin release...and a quick google on burns brings up the point that a 2nd degree burn is the most painful...this is not to say that the healing will not be somewhat painful, but nothing like the initiall pain...if i get another brand it will be from devils fire

chelle

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RE: Branding - 1/1/2006 3:22:00 AM

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Cautery pens can be variable. A lot of them aren't as powerful as they should be (including those sold by people specifically intending them for human branding - there have been quite a few negative reports about the pens sold by www.bmezine.com).

One of the major aims with branding is to burn efficiently through just the right amount of skin. Too deep and you could get a nasty infection, too shallow and you could just end up with a sub in a lot of pain pointlessly. Doing this is an artform within body-modification, and people who've just read about it or been told how to do it won't be able to do it with much or any control over it at all. I know quite a few people who've attempted brandings with the amount of knowledge you get on the internet and just ended up with a stinging red patch for a few weeks to a few months before the burn heals. This kind of thing is *not* a controlled brand. If you want to see what a brand looks like, check out www.bmezine.com or the various other body mod sites around which have pictures of branding scarification results.

Checking out the scarification FAQ would be a good starting place for information if you really are going to go and shove a red-hot piece of metal on your (or your sub's) skin.

PS: TexasMaam - cold-branding is supposed to make any hairs growing back in the branded area come through white. Is that true?

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RE: Branding - 1/1/2006 4:52:52 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Foibey

One of the major aims with branding is to burn efficiently through just the right amount of skin. Too deep and you could get a nasty infection, too shallow and you could just end up with a sub in a lot of pain pointlessly.
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PS: TexasMaam - cold-branding is supposed to make any hairs growing back in the branded area come through white. Is that true?

of course you don't want to go too deep...thought that was common sense so i didn't throw it in...i should point out that i believe that branding should only be done by trained people...fakir offers training for those that wish to brand their own slaves...there are also various less known highly trained bdsm folk who offer to teach people to brand...i would ask to watch them multiple times before taking lessons...

freeze branding kills the melatonin causing any hair that might grow back to be white along with the skin cells...therefore more effective on darker people and will show up "brighter" when tanned...

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RE: Branding - 4/10/2006 6:20:22 PM

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Dear plantlady64, i read your post on branding and hope yours went well. my Master and i are discussing it -- He wishes to mark His property. i am intrigued by your mention of a "branding area" in some of the clubs you know. i would love to hear back from you to find out about how the ceremony went and how you are healing.
respectfully,
dee
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