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Topping from below - 8/1/2004 6:36:42 AM

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I'm curious to hear from Dominants who have had both sexes as subs/slaves/bottoms. Who tends to Top from below more, men or women?

Is there a difference in how it is done. I would assume men are more blatant. ("Hit my left butt cheek at a 17.37 degree angle, spread mayonaisse on my head, and let me smell your pocket book, please."

Whereas a woman will let you think it was your idea.) I base this upon nothing beyond regular vanilla life, however. (No no c-workers ask me to spread mayo on their heads.)

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RE: Topping from below - 8/1/2004 6:56:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: iwillserveu

I'm curious to hear from Dominants who have had both sexes as subs/slaves/bottoms. Who tends to Top from below more, men or women?

I’m not sure if I would call it topping from the bottom so much as being more resistant and vocal about what they want, but women seem less passive then men *in my experience*. Submissive men tend to be more submissive then their female counterparts.

That is a very broad statement however because in general, it’s much more up to the individual. When playing with someone for the first time, I try to not pigeon hole them right away based on age, gender, experience, etc. Rather, I learn who they are and what makes them tick.

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RE: Topping from below - 8/2/2004 3:03:49 AM

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for Me it has been
females over males
but My female slave
ratio is 2 to 1 hence
it could be the statistics
as well iwill........ I do
have three slaves that
I have never had Topping
from the bottom experiances
with.....Most I find regardless
if Male or Female like to test
their boundries and My limits.

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RE: Topping from below - 8/2/2004 9:49:13 AM

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with due respect to those who have posted above me, I think everybody has been topped from the bottom, most times its 'accidental' as a sexual relationship turns into something with a more whole-self concepts...i.e. bf/gf, marriage etc. with that said I think if you're smart and hardcore as Mis.Dread seems to be that pro'lly isn't a problem....

the last one was my wife with her dom here, and for the record we started as lovers, who played with the kink for a bit, but our tastes were too far apart to let ying meet yang....anyway...but she got mad at him person to person and damned if he wasn't acting like a dog within hours. Kinda shocked me, though maybe I'm old fashioned and think if you have to bribe a slave with more than their own wants, then sumthin's not being done right.

but blessings on 'em both, if they're happy then I'm happy for em but it did show the most common (at least in my expierence) form of domming from the bottom

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RE: Topping from below - 8/2/2004 9:53:07 AM

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with due respect to those who have posted above me, I think everybody has been topped from the bottom

I don't believe anyone here said they were never topped from the bottom. Nor has anyone mad a judgement call on topping from the bottom. We've simply tried to deconstruct it, as you have with your story.

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RE: Topping from below - 8/2/2004 3:58:53 PM

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I hear much about the Topping from below however not often
do I hear of a discussion about bottoming from the Top. Any comments on this little kink that sum Dominants dabble in would be of interest to the public as well I think and I beleive much more common then Dominants will admit to or the other Dominants,subs,slaves whom have experianced such will admit to.JMO

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RE: Topping from below - 8/2/2004 4:27:49 PM

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In my experience males have always been more convicted in their submission. Seeking to please me with realistic thinking. Females always seem to have those "bump" moments, ie "I rearranged the kitchen, what do you think?" beaming with pride actually thinking, on some level, that I would be pleased.

That is an interesting question, Dread. I believe I can think of at least one instance where I may have done just that.

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RE: Topping from below - 8/2/2004 4:42:08 PM

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OMJAH!
I can TOTALLY relate to the kitchen and other rooms of the House being totally redesigned in My absence only to have to face tears when I say simply [put it back to the exact way I had it and it better be right this instant.]from several female slaves. Its like its been a initiation time as My other slaves tend to not say anything to the newer slave to see if they will tempt to enter and * make things better * to them...... LOL I think
its just another way they put their selfs up for punishment at the cost of anothers actions..... Whad Ya think?

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RE: Topping from below - 8/3/2004 8:42:52 AM

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Hmm.. well. to tell the truth.. I would love to have my place rearrainged right now. Pretty much anything would be better. I frankly do not have the eye for that type of design. I know when I like it, but don't really have the talent to know what will work where yanno?

*Thinkin' I need a fung shui slave or somethin'*
John

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RE: Topping from below - 8/3/2004 10:41:07 AM

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Hello,

Both of the submissives in my life, as well as the vanilla relationship I was in a few years ago, said that I had exquisite taste in decorations and dressing people, as well as that I am a wonderful cook.

This explains why I live in old moldy t-shirts, faded and ripped blue jeans with stains from the docks on them, and flip flop sandals.

On the other hand, I had a clothes horse boss once express shock that I could tie a tie perfectly without a mirror. Im thinking "It is not rocket science" but then I thought he was nice and we worked well together, but found him to be a legend-in-his-own-mind wannabe middle manager type.

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way off topic as usual - 8/3/2004 11:34:11 PM

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On the other hand, I had a clothes horse boss once express shock that I could tie a tie perfectly without a mirror. Im thinking "It is not rocket science"

bet he tied his using a single windsor - is kinda hard to not make a perfect tie knot when you go ahead and do a full double windsor knot

want to really <insert sarcasm here> make friends and impress people??

tie a bow tie without using a mirror

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RE: way off topic as usual - 8/4/2004 5:25:26 PM

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tie a bow tie without using a mirror

The Barney Fife approach to dressing doesnt appeal to me, plus it doesnt match my
flip-flops.

Sinergy

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RE: way off topic as usual - 8/4/2004 7:25:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

The Barney Fife approach to dressing doesnt appeal to me, plus it doesnt match my
flip-flops.

Sinergy

HA! You crack me up.

Let's go have a drink.

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RE: way off topic as usual - 8/4/2004 9:19:23 PM

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quote:

HA! You crack me up.

Let's go have a drink.

Works for me. Will let you know the next time Im on the right coast, and if you get out to the left coast look me up.

Sinergy

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RE: Topping from below - 8/4/2004 9:42:15 PM

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quote:

I’m not sure if I would call it topping from the bottom so much as being more resistant and vocal about what they want, but women seem less passive then men *in my experience*. Submissive men tend to be more submissive then their female counterparts.

I tend to agree with this. Comparing my own experiences with those of my Dom and Domme friends it seems that men generally go "in character" much more readily. I'm actually not real surprised by this since men are culturally encouraged to indulge their sexuality moreso than women are and it's probably safer for them to do so. This doesn't necessarily correlate to "topping from the bottom", but in the local community here there are a much larger numer of female subs with reputations for "topping from the bottom" than male subs so this might be indicative of a larger issue.

John

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RE: way off topic as usual - 8/5/2004 9:37:13 AM

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The Barney Fife approach to dressing doesnt appeal to me, plus it doesnt match my
flip-flops.

I was thinking more along the lines of tophat and tails (which also wouldnt match your flipflops)

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RE: Topping from below - 8/5/2004 4:57:25 PM

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Comparing my own experiences with those of my Dom and Domme friends it seems that men generally go "in character" much more readily. I'm actually not real surprised by this since men are culturally encouraged to indulge their sexuality moreso than women are and it's probably safer for them to do so.

I never looked at it from that perspective before John. I'm not dismissing it but I'm not sure I agree with it...

I think that then women I know very much indulge in their sexuality. And at the risk of pissing someone off with this comment, I think has something to do with the fact that men fear pissing me off more then women. Men know they could be replaced much easier then a bi or lesbian female sub. Though that is not the way I operate, I see this pattern happen.

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RE: Topping from below - 8/5/2004 6:43:55 PM

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I was thinking more along the lines of tophat and tails (which also wouldnt match your flipflops)

*stands around Domly and stuff in tophat, tails, and flip-flops and opines...*

Says who?

Sinergy

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RE: Topping from below - 8/6/2004 12:03:01 AM

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I didnt know they made patent leather flip flops - I stand corrected

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