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IV 'Kits' - 9/15/2008 8:01:37 AM

Lynnxz

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Well shoot. I had the bright idea of playing around with some IV's for a medical scene. Don't worry,- I'm not as incompetent as this post is going to make me sound.

In the past, I was a combat medic, and recieved lots of hands on IV training- problem is, the IV's always came wrapped up in a little package, tied together neatly with the little elastic tourniquet.

I haven't the slightest clue how to purchase them seperately. The training wasn't big on naming gauges and sizes and things... just a lot of 'here's what you do, now do it fast, and in the dark'

Crap.

Is there a site that sells IV 'kits'? I can find catheters, and I can find the saline, and I can find the tubing in between, but I have to admit I'm ignorant when it comes to knowing if you can put them all together, or if it's something retarded and you can't mix brands.

I 'could' wait until I go to some kinky convention, but I hate paying 15$ for a 2$ bag of saline.

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RE: IV 'Kits' - 9/15/2008 8:11:29 AM

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I dont post often. But, since I am big on MedFet, I have to say this. I do not care what training you have, if you do not even know what to properly call the equipment then you should not be playing with it. Especially when it comes to needles and the like. I would suggest you find a local Dom/Domme that might would give you lessons or take an EMT class. This, of course, is my opinion. From a subs standpoint this is a huge red blaring NO NO flag for me. Which means something, since I am in no way timid with play. Good luck. Maybe someone here will help you, I feel better though not doing so at this moment.

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RE: IV 'Kits' - 9/20/2008 8:04:35 PM

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I have to agree, if you have no idea about guages and how much saline and such then dont do it. Playing with IV's alone can be dangerous. Anything your putting in is going straight to the heart. And a little saline never hurt someone, but I am pretty sure alot could. For IM shot's we do a 27 guage, 1 -1 1/2 inch. For Blood draws we get a little smaller in the guage size. I know for a butterfuly we did a 23 guage. Take some classes first. Be safe about it all.

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RE: IV 'Kits' - 9/20/2008 8:08:00 PM

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You need to identify more what type of play ur are doing. If it is just a saline IV intravenous then your med experience is a good start and there are plenty of web sites that give more detail and sell such items. Some play would do well with a IV for dehydration.

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RE: IV 'Kits' - 9/20/2008 10:11:10 PM

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Have no fear, a civilian medic is here.

I.V. Starter kits can usually be bought at a medical supply store. When it comes to Gauge, the lower the number, the bigger/wider the needle. Since you are using these IVs for play, I suggest go with 22 and 20 gauge. 18 gauge is what the ER normally sticks people with. 16 is what is used when you donate blood. 14 gauge is what is used for patients in surgery. If and when a hospital sticks with something lower than 14, it usually means you're in deep shit. You're normally to far gone to feel the pain the 8 gauge gives.

The bad news is that most medical supply stores might be cautious in selling you and IV kit. Too many drug users have made even buying insulin needles a bit of a pain. I suggest you try purchasing IV kits online. Unless you're all sadist, go with the gauge of 18 and up versus 16 and down. But that has more to do with between you and the sub.

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RE: IV 'Kits' - 9/21/2008 1:28:26 AM

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FnF is right on. Combat medics and corpsmen usually deal with very large (16G or lower) needles, but this is most likely more than you would want for play. 20-22G would be a better choice, esp at first, as the larger the needle the easier it is to punch through with either needle or cath and blow the vein (having been used as a practice dummy for paragods in training, I can say that 16G needles hurt like a bitch when pushed THROUGH a vein, although they do leave pretty bruises, lol) or miss it entirely if it "jumps". EMT training isn't a bad idea, but (at least when I took the course) IV insertion is not taught at the Basic level. That said, any decent FTO will probably be happy to let you practice on him/her, or another willing victim, during your field time.

Not that I think you are, but if you are thinking of anything other than standard-issue saline IVs, please think again.

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RE: IV 'Kits' - 9/21/2008 1:42:33 AM

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My opinion is that for 'scenes', surely subcutaneous (under the skin) would suffice. I am also interested in medical fetish, and have the background of an ER nurse for many years, I would question the need and safety of intravenous play as it is extremely dangerous in terms of infection, heart failure etc.

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RE: IV 'Kits' - 9/21/2008 1:57:08 AM

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I've done the supply ordering (and the supply usage) for veterinary IV supplies, which are eactly the same as human, and yes, different brands will fit together. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt in knowledge of aseptic technique, so let me know if you have any questions re: specific components. To my knowledge, no one sells "kits" because they would be horribly ineffective cost-wise, plus you have to deal with expiration dates, etc.

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RE: IV 'Kits' - 10/12/2008 2:14:32 PM

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This doesn't sound like such a good idea.

The fact that you dont even know how to put all the equipment together or how much saline to use is a bad start.

IV's should be left for actual medical purposes and done my a trained professional. OK you may not think that pushing saline into the body can be a problem but it can become one, causing the patient or 'play thing' to become overloaded. Thus causing Edema if continued.

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