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openmindedslave -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (3/3/2006 6:35:38 PM)

I will only say that this question has taken on a life of its own and has spawn all host of answers ...many not directly pertaining to the question.
The question stemmed from the number of Mistresses that stated tribute was required if you were going to be involved with them. To many, the fantasy of money being part of the submission is importain to them. To others , when an amount of money is required up front, before play or personal involvement, they believe it is totally wrong or at least not for them. The answer is there is no black and white answer that makes everyone happy. There are professionals out her that offer services to persons who seek fullfillment and guidance but may not require the lenghty time involved with getting to know each other here. And in the long term, you have lifestylers who live this life to a greater fullness than what may be available to the other...





McWhips -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (3/5/2006 1:21:46 PM)

Why on earth does it say this on the message page?:

Note: Any messages involving Africa, Ghana, Nigeria, Singapore, wiring money, online
escrow services, or cashiers checks are scams and should be ignored. Be wary of
requests for your personal email address or money from people you just met.

I really dont see the point in saying that as half of it is the status quo here anyway. There are literally Tons of Dommes here who expect money to be wired to them online as well as people who expect money before youve even met them let alone 'people you just met'. escrow services? I can only assume that means escort services? Seeing as this is a BDSM site why would Vanilla Escorts come here? they dont! They must be reffering to people who spend time with you in a BDSM context in exchange for money and theres tons of that here too.




MarinaBlack -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (3/6/2006 2:00:56 AM)

Then one may say that being paid for any service makes one a prostitute - and btw, there is nothing wrong with being a prostitute.



BitaTruble -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (3/6/2006 2:14:27 AM)

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let alone 'people you just met'. escrow services?


There's a scam out there regarding 'escrow' services in which someone will contact with an offer of, usually, hundreds of thousands of dollars which is being held in 'escrow' and all you do is pay the small 'fee' to release the funds. As soon as you send in the fee, they disappear and you're out the money.

Celeste



collegebeauty -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (3/6/2006 8:30:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: McWhips

escrow services? I can only assume that means escort services?


Um, no.... Escrow services are a part of the financial services industry. They hold funds that can only be used to pay money owed to someone. Therefore, someone would tell you "we have money owed to you by x group, just send us $50 for expenses and you'll get $x". It's a scam that's not just here. As a member of the financial services industry, I've seen dozens of people get scammed this way.



openmindedslave -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (3/6/2006 5:25:27 PM)

Ohhh NOooo the real scam is going to the movies and paying more for the popcorn and a coke....now thats a scam...




MistressSassy66 -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (3/7/2006 6:20:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MysticalPhoenix


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ORIGINAL: michaelGA

would love to see a poll on this subject and cut through all this nonsense...it make it so much easy find out who think it's one way or the other and maybe settle this arguement once and for all...this thread is not really going anywhere...IMHO



It's all just rhetoric. And rhetoric, by it's very nature, never goes anywhere. It's just supposed to make you think.

There is no way to "settle" the argument. There will always be people who will charge for scening, and people who don't. There will always be people who will pay for scening, and people who won't. And there will always be people who complain about people who charge and people who pay.

It's really nobody's business except the Pro's and their customers. The rest of us are just keeping the thread going.

Phoenix




Very well put Phoenix.



incognitoinmass -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (3/16/2006 9:19:29 AM)

Hey, if you take money to play with some guy's penis and bare bottom, even if you are using clothespins and crops, you're a hooker. It ain't complicated.

Now, whether you think there is anything wrong with that is another question altogether.



ArtistInTN -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (3/17/2006 11:16:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren


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ORIGINAL: McWhips

Technically speaking, asking money in exchange for sexual services is prostitution.


Since professional domination is legal in areas where prostitution is illegal, this means it's not prostitution.



My question on this is how does one go about learning if professional domination is legal in their area of the country?



JohnWarren -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (3/17/2006 11:42:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ArtistInTN
My question on this is how does one go about learning if professional domination is legal in their area of the country?



Go to your local strip club or adult bookstore. Ask who their lawyer is. Call him or her and offer to pay for a consultation.

This is a very specialized area of the law depending not only the written law itself but the degree of interest evidenced by law enforcement officials to prosecute preceived violations.



QueenKimberlie -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (3/19/2006 5:33:12 AM)

I do pro-domme sessions for tribute........ when I first started I was concerned about this but my local prosectuer told me its not because neither of us are nude... no genital touching is involved and no orgasms and NO SEX wheter it be oral or otherwise... for Tribute I do not do anytype of Anal Play as that falls into the sex catergory.... So If the domme is having sexual activities with the sub then I would agree yes...... but alot of my sub are into foot and boot worship and its mental for them not sexual..... so therefore its not illegal...



QueenKimberlie -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (3/19/2006 5:39:34 AM)

I never have charged for $$ before a real meet but I decided to recently after all the guys that wasted my time and we no shows the ones that are serious will have the small depoit refunded if they cancel with ample notice (3 days or more) not 2 and certainly not day of the meet then they forfeit so far that has worked out people that are interetsed have paid and showed and the $$ is counted toward the tribute fee for the session....

Also to another comment ........ Hey, if you take money to play with some guy's penis and bare bottom, even if you are using clothespins and crops, you're a hooker. It ain't complicated.


so what does it make you if you do it for free?? a slut?? whats the old saying between the difference between a slut and a whore? One gets paid and the other gives it away.

Come on now... what about Strippers..... I can be for certain more strippers give up that ass in the vip room for xtra tips then a mistress does for tribute for subs



dsamethyst -> RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? (10/18/2006 8:52:57 PM)

I realize that I my not have a politically correct dictionary made for this lifestyle,  but well...As far as prostitution issues go,I feel the only  way I can be sure to avoid being accused of  Prostitution when working as a pro Domme....and yes i have done a few "pay per play" sessions...I had a few rules...
1. I would not permit any of my clientele to touch me in any area above my knees, for those that had made an appointment for foot
       worship...I catered to those that enjoy the cute feet and legs of a true lady.
2. I do not touch "goodies" with anything!  not a foot  not a toy not even with a hand!  I do not do anything that is remotely sexual.
3. Orgasm,  not an option.
4. NO strap on play....Strap on play in my opinion is prostitution....if you are having intimate sexual contact in any way...
    and being paid for it...In my humble opinion it is prostitution.  an artificial penis is hanving sex in my opinion as is performing
    a hand job, a foot job, need i express the context of oral sex...(or in some peoples circles...body worshipping is comes a bit
    close for my comfort!  If a mouth is coming with in kissing distance of a nibble on a part of the body that cannot be exposed in 
     public....It is intimate contact ie sexual in nature!)
5.  I play only out in a public venue....basically i feel that things are less likely to veer off into a forbidden land if things are
    out in the open!
6.  I have never had a set rate...I actually accepted a true tribute...meaning i accepted what ever the person that made the appointment with me felt that my time and energy was worth...

and well i cannot say that was ever given a gift of anything less than what most of the advertised mistresses..."charged"    I was able to earn enough for my breast reconstruction within a 3 month period and i didn't do all that many sessions, and all were done on friday or saturday evenings.  I do not know if it was because I didn't demand a set price, or because the gentlemen that i dealt with felt that i deserved the increase fee.  

It may very well be that they gentlemen that i dealt with were new comers and well how do i put this....well they were looking more for the fantasy then they were the actual experience.  I do know when i did my interviews prior to arranging my meetings...i asked and answered many questions and anyone that i felt was out of my experience level..I would send them elsewhere..i have sent men to other Dommes that i knew to be capable of the severe humiliation and sadistic play that they were seeking.   ..

I just know within 3 months i had the finances necessary and well it was about 10 weeks worth of energy expended.  

I no longer do Pro work due to physical limitations and the fact that there is no longer a public venue in my immediate area.  I continue
to recieve word of mouth referrals which is the only way I had previously taken new clients.

well that is my view on this topic..



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