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weights on nipples - 12/1/2005 8:12:43 PM

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My online master insists that I wear 10 0z weights and I am new to this. He wants me to do it for 4 hours each day is it safe and an it do permanent to my nipples

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/1/2005 8:14:54 PM

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I meant to say does it do permanent harm to my nipples. He also wants we to wear a metal clothe hanger on my nipples for four hours also. He says he is trainng me for when we meet in person. I must admit that the soreness feels good but is it safe?

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/1/2005 8:49:26 PM

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You know I've wondered myself about whats safe in the nipple department. I'm nowhere near where you are though. I'm super sensitive so it's not my favorite thing in the world.

Good question and good luck. Sorry I've got no answers for this one, but I'll be watching for someone who does.

How much is "too much"?

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/2/2005 6:39:18 AM

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quote:

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I meant to say does it do permanent harm to my nipples. He also wants we to wear a metal clothe hanger on my nipples for four hours also. He says he is trainng me for when we meet in person. I must admit that the soreness feels good but is it safe?

Ten ounces is a lot of weight and four hours is a very long time. However there are so many factors no one can say if something is safe for a specific individual. What concerns me is your partner is not there to observe you. It's this observation that allows me to judge the amount of harm that's being done by any specific act so I can balance that against the result I want. With no one objective observing the activity, it moves from my "possible risk" to "out of bounds for me."

You've NEVER met him?

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/2/2005 8:07:32 AM

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Ten ounces is a lot of weight and four hours is a very long time.

I would have to agree. I have to ask how these weights are supposed to be attached? Clamps? Pre-exisiting rings? Four hours is LONG past the point where tissue begins to die due to lack of circulation. I too would be very concerned that this is an instruction from an online Master who will not be present to monitor the process.

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/2/2005 10:11:49 AM

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My online master insists that I wear 10 0z weights and I am new to this. He wants me to do it for 4 hours each day is it safe and an it do permanent to my nipples

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My guess is that this type of expectation, and "order" may be why he's ONLINE! This isn't a realistic expectation, without causing severe discomfort and possible harm. Ask him to try it himself first, and then you'll do it.

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/2/2005 10:15:41 AM

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I think that to have "extreme" play there must be extreme trust. This isn't the kind of thing that someone should ask from an online partner when ..like has been mentioned earlier...there will be no real-time interaction while you're doing it. Don't put yourself in harms way without someone who cares for you there to protect you.

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/2/2005 3:43:07 PM

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If he's an online master, then you really only have to SAY you are doing it, you don't really have to do it. You see, online isn't real. I know, I know, you are probably feeling like my four-year-old son did when I told him that cartoons - and all TV - isn't real; it's ok, go have yourself a good cry. I know - reality is harsh, but wearing 10 oz weights for 4 hours is much more harsh, and IT IS ONLINE! Stop being silly. If you can't hug it after a session, it ain't real. So why bother? I am sure you can be as convincing online about your submission as your master is about dominating you.

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/2/2005 4:09:20 PM

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Chicky-
Agreed in part, though to some people online/long distence relationships are plenty real. That said I agree, four hours is a long time just for clamps, let alone weights. You have to use extreme discretion before following an order from an online "dom". While plenty are real that will want to go to a real life ace to face relationships with you, a very large part of the so called doms onlines are people who really aren't doms and have no clue what they are doing.

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/2/2005 4:12:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: DV8ChickyNYC

If he's an online master, then you really only have to SAY you are doing it, you don't really have to do it. You see, online isn't real. I know, I know, you are probably feeling like my four-year-old son did when I told him that cartoons - and all TV - isn't real; it's ok, go have yourself a good cry. I know - reality is harsh, but wearing 10 oz weights for 4 hours is much more harsh, and IT IS ONLINE! Stop being silly. If you can't hug it after a session, it ain't real. So why bother? I am sure you can be as convincing online about your submission as your master is about dominating you.

Good luck!
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and if it's only online, and he wants to watch you on webcam, well gosh darn it, those finicky things break too often, don't they? bet your digital camera lost its charge as well, and the cats have been playing with it and they've put it who knows where (this indeed is fact based-my kittens have left my camera charger someplace during their play and i've been unable to find it for months). hmmm online. has its ups and downs, and when the devices don't work, what can a girl do?

the above is another light hearted attempt to have you see that online isn't real. what he is suggesting that you do to yourself is not something that is safe to do alone and unspervised in person! he may say he'll watch for signs of this or that on a webcam, but unless it's made by canon or minolta and costs thousands of dollars to add on those reach out and touch you things they hope to one day have in place for physicians, he can't do it. please be smart and hear what the experienced folks on here share with you. first you talk, then you meet, then you talk, then you meet....only when you are very comfortable with each other do you start to play, and research things you don't know about. you showed wisdom by coming here to ask. i'm sure you'll continue to show it.

i wish you well.

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/3/2005 5:44:16 PM

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lady1,

With all due respect to this so called master, do not do this to yourself. I have done much study on womens breasts for my play. The weight is fine as long as you build to it not just do it all in one step. As one post stated of a time factor...4 hours....IT IS TOO LONG!!!! PERIOD!! It will do damage to the underlying tissue and may permantly have your nipple removed from death of same. This amount of weight should never be used without having one to supervise over the situation. I would for get rid of this online master. He has not done his homework.

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/3/2005 10:30:30 PM

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you know every one who posted with a snooty snide attitude oh how online bdsm isn't real and is fake, yeah you can't touch each other online but the bonds can be very real. There's no need to be snotty about someone else doing online. If you don't like online or don't think it's real ok but don't project your snooty attitude onto others about it.

Every one else who had something valid to say on the thread, Every one is right about the cautions and the dangers. 10 ounce for a new nipple play person is extream let alone adding 10 hours. Your master is being unrealistic and is basing his request on some fantasy idea.

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/4/2005 5:45:33 AM

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you know every one who posted with a snooty snide attitude oh how online bdsm isn't real and is fake, yeah you can't touch each other online but the bonds can be very real. There's no need to be snotty about someone else doing online. If you don't like online or don't think it's real ok but don't project your snooty attitude onto others about it.

Online is whatever someone wants it to be, whether that be "real" actions, or "real" emotions, or just whatever "they" want out of it.

The fact that this man is ordering a harmful action, to be self inflicted is quite evident that he is not projecting "realistic" expectations. His actions...his order, are proof that he is not real, dontacha think?

This order to wear daily weights for four hours, on the nipples, is for someone that is in a fantasyland. Pure and simple.

Most people are making their judgments based upon what was presented.

Fantasy is fun...but it's not real. It's doesn't negate the pleasure that fantasy brings. It doesn't negate the emotional release it brings to others. It should stop the perpetrating of causing harm to unsuspecting folks though, that take online domination seriously, and follow orders blindly.

Whether online, in person, real life, or fantasy...it appears that safety is an aspect for all of us.

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/4/2005 2:56:08 PM

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FelinePersuasion

The fact of the matter is this. If a so called master is unrealistic in their expectaions and does not care for the bottoms wellfare, than this sub should seek one that IS!

What happened to the terms safe and consensual????

This practice IS not safe! It maybe consensual but I am betting not really.

Biggest problem on here is you can read any emotion you want into the words printed. Where in print did I mention anything about online being wrong or not correct!!
If you can find it let me know and I will eat them. Read a bit more carefully before casting judgement on others.

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/4/2005 5:25:43 PM

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I 100% agree with slaveless on this one. You are judgemental and did not read it properly. It is unsafe my dear. The only thing slaveless eluded to is the fact it was unsafe and she should consider getting a different one. I did not read anything about one being better or not as real as any other. you are off base!

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/4/2005 8:03:29 PM

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all that indicates to me is that he is uneducated/uninformed about the topic. doesn't mean he's not "real" but it maybe means he still needs to learn some things.

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/4/2005 8:28:43 PM

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i think about everyone tried, in one way or another, to say that this practice is unsafe, and even perhaps tried to give a nice way out of it all. i didn't see any "snooty" posts other than the one that used the term.

it was said that it wasn't safe for him to try to monitor something like this online via a webcam, and it's not. without someone physically in the room it's not "real" time reality. it's an online vision of something that is not a sound practice. it was also also said that the poster showed wisdom in coming to ask about this.

i think sometimes things just get a bit out of shape from looking at them in ways other than as they were intended. i saw a lot of caring, concern, and sound advice, no "snooty snide attitudes."

we're the good guys here, offering our time and sharing our knowledge.

i wish you well.

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/4/2005 10:32:53 PM

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Every one back off and READ LOL I didn't say HE was real. I agree with every one who says it's not safe or realistic.

I said the snotty ness about people who do bdsm online was un nessisary. I had a long distance relationship with a guy who I only met once in our year together and it was very much real to us. I couldn't hug him after we talked god I wanted to but His and my connection from talking on the phone on email or in yim everyday was real. and so was the intense heartache when we went wrong and split

Slaveless1 you weren't the one I was talking about. I was talking about DV8's Assertion that online bdsm is fake if you can't hug after then it's not real

now how do you want your crow hehehe since I wasn't refering to yourp ost.

BTW Did you know some crows here get as big as small puppies, crows make a living in CA

and slv hunter, I'm not off base. They said and I quote

IT IS ONLINE! Stop being silly. If you can't hug it after a session, it ain't real.

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/4/2005 10:37:03 PM

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all that indicates to me is that he is uneducated/uninformed about the topic. doesn't mean he's not "real" but it maybe means he still needs to learn some things.

I agree. It's been my experience that, despite talk about predators, most of the real harm in the scene comes from novice doms who, lacking the courage to say 'no' or having their "training" from bad porn, end up getting way over their heads and unintentionally harming submissives, sometimes seriously.

It isn't "evil," but it ends up damned "bad."

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RE: weights on nipples - 12/5/2005 2:22:01 AM

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It also isn't agiasnt the rules to research or ask someone who knows better.....maybe someone made it a rule that you can't ask someone more experienced for advice when I wasn't looking.

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