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lusciouslips19 -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:19:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19




Perhaps if that is not what you want you should seek a sub that doesnt express herself that way on her profile.



This is the statement I was referring to.  I'm not talking about seeking, I'm talking about profiles that I see while making a search.



You say you are making a search but not seeking?
The mind boggles that you don't see the contradiction in saying you dont seek that which you are searching? [sm=dunno.gif]




Aslanemperor -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:19:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: giveeverything

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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

, Some of these subs on this site think that a sub shouldn't have to clean house either.  They expect room and board for a few nights of sex per week.
~Aslanemperor

Who are you talking about?  You have actual examples of subs here who have told you things of this nature?  Pulease, you're pulling shit out of your ass.

Actually, I'm not.  Before my profile went through some changes (Still trying to figure out what to put there because my description of what I want tends to fill a couple of pages), I mentioned that a submissive would have to earn her keep in my house.  This was simple.  She could get a job or she could take care of the house full time.  I spoke to one slave a while back that stands out (Though it was quite a while ago.  Actually something over a year ago, because I collared a new girl shortly after that).  She says to me after being prompted to read my profile, "Oh, I'm supposed to be your submissive and work!?"  As I'm reading this I'm thinking to myself, "Wait a second, what's so wrong about expecting everyone in the house to contribute.?"




yourMissTress -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:19:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor


Ok, I don't know where all that came from, but I'll tell you it's bullshit.  Actually, if you wanna know anything, I make it clear that I want an intelligent woman who knows what she wants.  I simply don't want one who doesn't want to be a submissive.
Where do you get the idea that I'm angry at intelligent women?  I tell you now that it's quite the other way around.  I'm annoyed by STUPID women.  For that matter, I'm annoyed by stupid guys as well.
The fact is that I made this post to point out an inconsistency and I'm seeing that it's gotten WAY out of hand.  I should have realized ahead of time what would happen if I tried to have an intelligent discussion here.  Whatever.
~Aslanemperor



I guess that means that you are the one that can't read...as I stated that my opinion was formed by reading many of your recent postings.

Second bolded ...see my above response.

And of course the ever intelligent debate ender...WHATEVER.






MasterJFrancis -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:20:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

Perhaps if that is not what you want you should seek a sub that doesnt express herself that way on her profile.


This is the statement I was referring to.  I'm not talking about seeking, I'm talking about profiles that I see while making a search.


[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m21.gif[/image]    Oh, light shines on marble head.........

Okay, well here's the solution. If you find a profile that does not fit your predefined criteria as to what is acceptable then move on to the next profile. If that fails, ignore the part that says "not a doormat" and politely inquire as to what they would constitute a "doormat" if this does not agree with your interpretation thank them for their time and move on. If you wish to make a point as to how that cannot possibly be a "doormat" and be prepared to provide examples of what you think would be a doormat under the topic under discussion then do so.

If you at any time do something utterly stupid like "you are a submissive and you don't know what you are talking about" find the nearest refuse container and jump in, it might just save your sorry ass.






Aslanemperor -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:29:07 PM)

well, As I've tried to explain, I am mainly talking about the subs profiles.  I mention contacting them, but usually this is just to ask, "So I read your profile and I wonder, just what do you consider being a doormat?"
I'm simply trying to get oppinions.  I'm starting to think that in spite of the fact that it looks perfectly understandable to me, my orriginal post must be incredibly confusing.




Quivver -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:30:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: yourMissTress

And of course the ever intelligent debate ender...WHATEVER.




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beargonewild -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:33:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

Well my profile says I am not a doormat and dont wish to be a slave. So whats wrong with that? Perhaps if that is not what you want you should seek a sub that doesn't express herself that way on her profile. really its quite simple.

Can you read?  Why even bother responding if you're going to say things like this that have nothing to do with the conversation at hand.  As I said, WE AREN'T DISCUSSING CONTACTING SUBMISSIVES!  WE'RE DISCUSSING SO CALLED SUBMISSIVE'S PROFILES!
Did you get it now?



Though you directed this at luscious, this still ripples back at all the other posters reading this topic. Allow me to point out that this display of manners which is the internet version of yelling doesn't reflect too good on your part.
Now if you are still looking to have an intelligent and civilized conversation, then lets have at it.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:33:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

well, As I've tried to explain, I am mainly talking about the subs profiles.  I mention contacting them, but usually this is just to ask, "So I read your profile and I wonder, just what do you consider being a doormat?"
I'm simply trying to get oppinions.  I'm starting to think that in spite of the fact that it looks perfectly understandable to me, my orriginal post must be incredibly confusing.



Yes. And some apologies for calling all those who read (about how when talking to and mailing subs yada yada) what you wrote, understood it as it was written were called idiots.




Aslanemperor -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:35:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: yourMissTress

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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor


Ok, I don't know where all that came from, but I'll tell you it's bullshit.  Actually, if you wanna know anything, I make it clear that I want an intelligent woman who knows what she wants.  I simply don't want one who doesn't want to be a submissive.
Where do you get the idea that I'm angry at intelligent women?  I tell you now that it's quite the other way around.  I'm annoyed by STUPID women.  For that matter, I'm annoyed by stupid guys as well.
The fact is that I made this post to point out an inconsistency and I'm seeing that it's gotten WAY out of hand.  I should have realized ahead of time what would happen if I tried to have an intelligent discussion here.  Whatever.
~Aslanemperor



I guess that means that you are the one that can't read...as I stated that my opinion was formed by reading many of your recent postings.

Second bolded ...see my above response.

And of course the ever intelligent debate ender...WHATEVER.




I'm saying that there is nothing in my "recent posts" to indicate such nonsense.  As for Whatever, I'd say it says volumes.  In otherwords I'm saying:  "It's obvious that there's no use arguing with someone who's made up their mind about me without ever really learning anything about me."
So to you I say, "Whatever", because you've made your decision and showed your true colors with your first post.  I could say that based on that post I think that you're probably a lesbian that thinks that any man who asserts himself as a Dom must be a hater of intelligent women.  It would make perfect sense given the way you've acted, but I'm not that way, and I understand that to make such an assumption would be stupid and childish.  I don't know you and thus can't make a real judgement.
You don't know me, and all you've managed to do with the last two posts is show just how childish you really are.  Have a nice life.  Whatever.




MasterJFrancis -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:35:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

well, As I've tried to explain, I am mainly talking about the subs profiles.  I mention contacting them, but usually this is just to ask, "So I read your profile and I wonder, just what do you consider being a doormat?"
I'm simply trying to get oppinions.  I'm starting to think that in spite of the fact that it looks perfectly understandable to me, my orriginal post must be incredibly confusing.



Just a silly question: Out of 100 profiles that you look, at how many even mention the phrase "doormat" in this context?




beargonewild -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:36:23 PM)

In keeping with the thread topic, what is your definition of a doormat, luscious? 




SailingBum -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:36:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

So I've been asking myself this, and it's plagueing me.  Why is this site full of "submissives" who put stuff in their profile like, "I'm submissive, but I'm not a doormat!"?  I hear this, and then I talk to them only to find that the most basic of submissive acts is considered being a doormat.


I've read thru the most of the posts on here that perhaps you don't act domly enuff , exude enuff power to elicit the submissive side in the girls you are attempting to lure in.  The point I am getting from your posts is your whining about not being able to find a fucktard on this site.  Whiney doms are frowned upon.  After all your the only one complaining.   Look inward.

BadOne




Aslanemperor -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:38:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: beargonewild

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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

Well my profile says I am not a doormat and dont wish to be a slave. So whats wrong with that? Perhaps if that is not what you want you should seek a sub that doesn't express herself that way on her profile. really its quite simple.

Can you read?  Why even bother responding if you're going to say things like this that have nothing to do with the conversation at hand.  As I said, WE AREN'T DISCUSSING CONTACTING SUBMISSIVES!  WE'RE DISCUSSING SO CALLED SUBMISSIVE'S PROFILES!
Did you get it now?



Though you directed this at luscious, this still ripples back at all the other posters reading this topic. Allow me to point out that this display of manners which is the internet version of yelling doesn't reflect too good on your part.
Now if you are still looking to have an intelligent and civilized conversation, then lets have at it.


I would love to Bear, but I wasn't yelling.  Once again, I was making the text larger.  I assumed since I had stated twice (once in the first post and again in a response to luscious) that I wasn't talking about sending out corespondance and demanding girls get on their knees and serve me and whatnot, that she just didn't see that particular part of the post.  I would have made it bold, italics, underlined and sized up, but I figured that would be going a bit far.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:41:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: beargonewild

In keeping with the thread topic, what is your definition of a doormat, luscious? 


Well, Bear,

When I wrote awhile back" I am not a doormat and dont seek to be a slave". I was trying to discourage the types that want to micromanage to a point that you are treated as a mindless robot with no opinion of her own and not allowed to have a personality. Most Dominants dont want that either. So really I am discouraging those I really dont think understand what a true D's relationship is. Those that have an image of bossing someone around in a bully like manner. You know the puffed chest, on yer knees bitch wanna bees? [:)]




beargonewild -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:42:29 PM)

I can see it the entire post was enlarged, yet it was only certain statements which were in bold and caps. Underlining probably would've been more effective and less misunderstood, me thinks.




Aslanemperor -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:43:30 PM)

I would say off the top of my head that it's a good 25% at least.  Believe it or not, I expect this sort of action from a switch.  I just don't think it makes any sense for someone to lable themselves submissives when they obviously aren't.




beargonewild -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:45:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19


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ORIGINAL: beargonewild

In keeping with the thread topic, what is your definition of a doormat, luscious? 


Well, Bear,

When I wrote awhile back" I am not a doormat and dont seek to be a slave". I was trying to discourage the types that want to micromanage to a point that you are treated as a mindless robot with no opinion of her own and not allowed to have a personality. Most Dominants dont want that either. So really I am discouraging those I really dont think understand what a true D's relationship is. Those that have an image of bossing someone around in a bully like manner. You know the puffed chest, on yer knees bitch wanna bees? [:)]


Yes, which pretty much is alike to what I originally stated way back on pg 2 or 3 of this topic! Thanks luscious. I've found that when I don't quite understand what a person means, it's best to ask for clarification and that way I'm on the same page as they are.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:47:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

I would say off the top of my head that it's a good 25% at least.  Believe it or not, I expect this sort of action from a switch.  I just don't think it makes any sense for someone to lable themselves submissives when they obviously aren't.



A submissive and a slave are 2 different things. there are strictly bedroom submissives and submissives that are in a TPE. However the role and say so in the relationship and power transfer is different for a submissive as compared to a slave.

Perhaps they are correct in labeling themselves as submissives, but you should be looking at slave profiles?




giveeverything -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:48:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyLupineNYC

" Cause that would be like the trifecta. 

Trifecta!  I love it!  The use of it was a delightful surprise.  Well-done.




NihilusZero -> RE: Where are the submissive submissives? (10/1/2008 8:48:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

I just don't think it makes any sense for someone to lable themselves submissives when they obviously aren't.


You are still an "employee" of the place you work even if you only log in 8 hours a week.

Your annoyance falls upon itself since the bio section (which these members USE to describe their feelings) is specifically meant to elucidate further upon the basic user categories.




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