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juliaoceania -> RE: "Why should I consider you?" (10/7/2008 4:54:56 PM)

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I do not play games in the mating dance... it is deadly serious to me.


I do not say "game" as in head games or drama or not being serious about commitment. It is not a competitive game between the couple with a loser and a winner.... hopefully the game will end with both people winning. To me playing a game is an enjoyable experience. Dating is supposed to be fun. When I was dating I was looking for something substantial but enjoyed all the dates I went on for what they were... even if I knew it wasn't my mate for life that I was out with. I am a firm believer in The Rules, with a small amount of variation. The courtship stage of the relationship is a game in my mind. People are not open with each other right away, and in my opinion it is a good idea to hold stuff back and be a little mysterious.




thedavezone -> RE: "Why should I consider you?" (11/14/2008 12:17:25 PM)

The answer they're probably looking for is that you fit what they've stated as preferences on their profile.

You might also say that you're willing to serve, show your picture (if you're hot), and maybe even say you'll do ANYTHING (if that's true).




lusciouslips19 -> RE: "Why should I consider you?" (11/14/2008 12:22:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

consider it like a job interview. sell yourself. what have you got to offer?


I disagree Greedsie.
Why should I consider the Master?
I am a person trying to get to know a person. The question itself is annoying to me. I would just be looking to get to know a person outside of the Kink. Thats how I think getting to know someone should be approached. All in good time in a natural way you will learn what the persons have to offer each other or not.




akisha -> RE: "Why should I consider you?" (11/14/2008 3:19:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thedavezone

The answer they're probably looking for is that you fit what they've stated as preferences on their profile.

You might also say that you're willing to serve, show your picture (if you're hot), and maybe even say you'll do ANYTHING (if that's true).


So if you're not hot you shouldn;t show a picture?  And really, no one is willing to do "Anything" That's fantasy talk, not reality




agirl -> RE: "Why should I consider you?" (11/16/2008 5:43:44 AM)

 'Why should I consider you?'..Good question.

Surely it depends on who you're speaking to and why.

If M had asked it of me, I'd probably have said ....... 'Well, no good reason apart from the fact that I'd like your control'.

It's purely situational and what 'doms' glean from the reply is part of their personal process of elimination and information gathering.

Never having been in the position where I've had to do any applying or petitioning for a 'position' it ranks alongside the 'tell me a bit about yourself'.

agirl











VampiresLair -> RE: "Why should I consider you?" (11/16/2008 5:53:37 AM)

~FR~
I have not read everyone elses answers, but this is from my point of view alone.
When I ask someone why I should consider them, I am asking because I want to know what THEY think they can offer me by way of a relationship, what they bring to the table so to speak. I dont care how they stack up against other subs/slaves I might talk to, everyone is their own person. However, if they do not think they are particularly worth my time and can tell me why then I likely wont think they are worth my time either.
The best answer I have ever gotten to the question, back when I was single was "I do not think you should consider me for any specific reasons, yet. I would however, like to get to know you better and see if you find your own reasons for thinking I am worthy of consideration."

DV




antipode -> RE: "Why should I consider you?" (11/16/2008 7:58:27 AM)

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a question I often get is "Why should I consider you?"


Should you ever need to take corporate management training, you'll find that this is one of the classic manipulative questions used by incompetent managers who lack negotation skills. It falls in the same category as "I need you to help me with this" instead of "I would like you to do this". I personally would go so far as to suggest to you that if someone who wants to be your authority asks you this question, you can walk away, they are manipulative, and manipulative people are always insecure. The proper questions a master can ask would be "What can you do for me?" and "What do you expect of me?".




CaringandReal -> RE: "Why should I consider you?" (11/16/2008 8:38:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

I find the question a little bit off-putting Padriag, and it also leaves me dumbfounded and like I don't really know how to answer either.



"What do you have to offer?" feels off-putting to me, as well, because of reasons you have already stated: generic skills like cooking or playing a music instrument, lists that turn you into a commodity, have very little to do with the real you or the real person you are talking to and his particular needs. You don't know what those preferences are yet, so you have no idea if admitting to him that you are fabulous at cleaning feet with your tongue is going to appeal to him or (because he's ticklish or has a common aversion to his feet being touched) disgust him. So this very question may actually  encourage a submissive to self-censor and hide things from you from the start, because she will likely be afraid of offending you or not sure what the point is asking this at such an early stage and suspect something worse than you meant.  Not an auspicious beignning.

The question also makes me wonder,"WTF?  Didn't he read all those dozens of words in my profile where I  lay all of that out in precise detail? Does he need a copy-n-paste review? " 

But mostly I think it's off-putting because of the way it is phrased. A much softer way of asking this question that would also provide a dominant with good (and very similar) information would be, "What do you see as your best qualities as a submissive (or slave)?" This version is a lot less "job-interview, in-your-face" in feel  and, because of the attempt on his part to not make me feel defensive and flustered and (yes) annoyed, I feel much more positive toward the asker. It makes me think that the person asking it is the sort of person (intelligent, perceptive, aware of the effect his words have on others) that I would want to reveal that information to rather than someone to avoid.

In the early stages of a conversation online, both people are touchy, both have had bad prior experiences usually, and  almost anything can derail it, even if they both are quite  interested in each other. It takes certain skill to avoid making someone who is a stranger to you and who barely knows you want to terminate the contact. The same principle applies to writing and publishing. In Writing 101 you are taught (if you have a good teacher)  this truth: the reader, any reader, all readers,  are  looking for any excuse whatsover to stop reading. Anything that confuses him, stops him from continuing to read, makes him pause or go "what the heck?" bores or annoys him,  you want to avoid. And you do so by applying all aspects of your craft.   

"What do you have to offer?" is a legitimate question and certainly has a place in a conversation between a dominant and a submissive, but I think that place comes quite a bit further in time, when it won't be something that will make the other run. A good point to ask it, for instance, would be  when it's perfectly clear to both parties that the submissive wants very badly to offer something to this particular dominant. 




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