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rulemylife -> RE: And Here Comes the Sarahcuda... (10/5/2008 4:36:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic It is what it is, Phil. Isn't every attempt to call McCain '4 more years' a similar falsehood that is only intended to distract from the very real issues? It comes to this pretty much every time. Hate the game, not the player. No. Four more years refers to McCain's proposed policies being practically indistinguishable from Bush's policies. A valid political point. This Ayers nonsense is swiftboating at its finest. From the the man who pledged to run an "honorable" campaign. A year ago I might have voted for this man, but I don't have an ounce of respect left for McCain.

LadyLupineNYC -> RE: And Here Comes the Sarahcuda... (10/5/2008 4:42:42 PM)
Both sides are equal in their ability to act 'negative' (though come now, the GOP has made it a high art form). And it is beside the point when it is done. Negative campaigning is as old as the United States itself, that is not what saddens me, it’s the seeming decrease in the ability of either side to get past such tactics and look at the issues. The issues I care about are ones a researched and came to a conclusion about regarding the candidates (for those who care, I am staunchly ‘Centrist’ and yes, have voted at some point for all three parties at one level or another) based on their stance on those issues. Shocking, I know.

BitaTruble -> RE: And Here Comes the Sarahcuda... (10/5/2008 4:46:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic His association with William Ayers is fair game, Phil. It goes straight to character. I'm sure we'll get some frantic whitewash going on his background (Wikipedia starts their article with him being an educator, for instance), but the device that prematurely detonated and killed his girlfriend was an anti-personnel bomb, packed with nails. The organization Ayers helped found was planning to murder other people with it, than the ones who died that day. McCain needs to be really careful getting into a character debate giving his own philandering ways .. cheating on his disable but loyal wife then marrying his drug addict, thief of a mistress a month after his divorce was final, Keating, admitting in his own book that lying is preferable to losing. His character can't really stand up to a microscope. Obamas 'ties' to Ayers are tenuous at best. McCain's character flaws are solid and well documented.

philosophy -> RE: And Here Comes the Sarahcuda... (10/5/2008 10:48:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic His association with William Ayers is fair game, Phil. It goes straight to character. I'm sure we'll get some frantic whitewash going on his background (Wikipedia starts their article with him being an educator, for instance), but the device that prematurely detonated and killed his girlfriend was an anti-personnel bomb, packed with nails. The organization Ayers helped found was planning to murder other people with it, than the ones who died that day. .......i must admit to knowing next to nothing about Ayers and the Weather Underground. However, if the connection to Obama is legitimate then Palin has a similar level of association with Alaskan Secessionists, and i am even more strongly connected to the IRA. It's a long (and quite funny story) but i once got bought a pint by an IRA commander. Now, as i'm sure you realise i have not the slightest sympathy with the work of the IRA. A certain amount of sympathy with their aim (a united Ireland) but zero tolerance for terrorism. i put this line from Palin in the same category as the suggestion that Obama is a muslim. Wholly designed to create the illusion of collusion. Given the old idea that we are all on the planet only seperated by six degrees......well, i could just as easily make a case that a random backer of McCain has links with paedophiles. If we legitimise this sort of thing then truth will be the first casualty......sadly it wont be the last.

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