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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Me too, and I hate kissing boys.

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

There was a bit of an oopsy earlier in the McCain campaign which, effectively, said that a terror attack on the US would be good for McCain. An Al-queda website apparently agrees with him.

Would a terror attack on US soil change your vote? Why or why not?

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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You have to go back much further than one presidency to understand what is happening today. I'd say you need to go back to at least WWII to fully comprehend American policies in the Middle East that have encouraged (not caused) radical Islam as we know it today.

Stopping at one president you don't like isn't knowing the full history and only demonstrate what I was saying about how sad it is that people do not know their own nation's history.

Well, I'd say you'd have to blame the Ottoman Empire for the particular strand of radical Islam (Wahabism) that Bin Laden follows.  You can blame allied Europe for their actions after World War I, especially not keeping their promises to Arab allies that helped defeat the Ottomans.  We can even blame Woodrow Wilson for being so naive when dealing with Europe after that war.  You can try and blame Reagan for arming the partisans in Afghanistan, but you'd be wrong.  The Soviets were a much larger threat at the time, and Reagan acted accordingly.  We can blame Reagan, Bush I, and Clinton for ignoring Afghanistan after the Soviet withdrawal.  Unfortunately we don't have a time machine, or we could go back and change these things. 

I don't know what your point is.  It has nothing to do with the current election.  You can make pompous declarations about the ignorance of American voters all you want, but you're not going to get me with that nonsense.  I was a history major, I know what happened in the Muslim world for the last 1000 years.  It doesn't change my opinion of Obama.  He is the wrong choice; he is Jimmy Carter II. 

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ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne

slave boy,

If you think there is not going to be some kind of civil was in Iraq then you obviously have never paid much attention to the Middle East.  It is not a matter of if, only when.  You have a group of people who do not like one another and take every chance they can to fight amongst themselves.  The only thing that held any of them in check for so long was Sadam and his iron fist. 

K

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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As a historian I am so saddened when folks just ignore the facts of events even within their lifetimes. I can forgive not knowing what happened in 1900 or 1500 or 500 or 500bce but I can't forgive folks "forgetting" what has happened in just the past few decades. That's being unpatriotic and unamerican and downright dangerous to democracy of any type.

What has happened in the past few decades, Tammy?  I remember 8 years under a Democrat administration, part of which he shared power with a Democratic Congress.  In that short period of time;  Al Qaeda tried to blow up the World Trade Center, blew up American embassies in Africa, participated in killing American soldiers in Somalia, attacked the USS Cole and killed several American sailors, repeatedly threatened to kill Americans anywhere in the world, and on and on.  President Clinton did NOTHING.  We had a chance to get Bin Laden from Sudan under Clinton's watch, and he bungled it.  We had a chance to kill the son of a bitch several times, and Clinton bungled that. 

So I am saddened when I see sheep worshipping a man, who wants to "sit down" and chat with representatives of theocratic governments who deny the Holocaust, hang homosexuals, stone rape victims, and call for the destruction of Israel.  I am saddened to see people actually believe that Obama will wave a magic wand and pull our troops out of Iraq without starting a civil war that would destabilize an entire region necessary for the world's energy needs.  Of course those same people don't worry, because they actually believe this magical man will pull the same magic to supply all of our energy with windmills and solar farms.  Obama supporters are dreamers and idealists.  It's sad to see adults that are actually that naive. 

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NONE of what you describe was perpetrated by Al-Qaida. In 1993 A;-Qaida didn;t exist///even as a ruse which is what it is. The bombing of the WTC was aided and abetted by the FBI even hiring a Saudi for $1 million to pose as a terrorist. He even asked just to make sure "This is not real...correct ? It's just a drill to test defenses...correct, being told it was nothing more than smoke and noise.

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NO, It WAS real and after the bombing...disappeared. The US prosecuted a blind muslim cleric, found him guilty and DIDN'T execute him...just deported him. Convicted of killing what was it...7 people and NOT executed. The goal was to get the 'Patriot Act' passed. It didn't work...not enough dead.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

It's incredible to me that people like you persist in calling the many citizens of numerous countries 'Muslims' as if they were one.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

It's as if you're saying that Muslims are less than human, people who haven't the capacity to live in peace. If you really believe that, then why aren't you overtly advocating our militarlily suppressing them... like you advocate for Saddam.

And why would you back someone like Obama, who advocates negotiateing with them? According to your position, that is foolishness on his part.

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ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne

slave boy,

If you think there is not going to be some kind of civil was in Iraq then you obviously have never paid much attention to the Middle East.  It is not a matter of if, only when.  You have a group of people who do not like one another and take every chance they can to fight amongst themselves.  The only thing that held any of them in check for so long was Sadam and his iron fist. 

K