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legal question for pro dommes - 10/24/2008 3:46:40 PM   
youngdomofny


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Status: offline 		I have a friend who is attempting to become a pro dominatrix, she is into the lifestyle but also wants to pay for college.  She got an offer for a guy to pay her money to.  He is going to kneel before her and then wants her to watch him masterbate.  Is this considered prostituion and illegal?
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RE: legal question for pro dommes - 10/24/2008 3:51:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Totally dependent on the laws of the state and local municipality you are in.  I would do some research.

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RE: legal question for pro dommes - 10/24/2008 3:54:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		In Michigan, where the prostitution laws are many shades of grey, yes it would be considered prostitution.  Which is a shame, because watching men masturbate is enormously entertaining to me...  but I was verrrrry cautious which clients were allowed to do it.

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RE: legal question for pro dommes - 10/24/2008 4:12:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		the state is in ct, anyone have any ideas to get around on this?

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RE: legal question for pro dommes - 10/24/2008 4:12:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		i've been offered a similar situation with a submissive.  i haven't decided to accept the offer yet, i may not, i don't know.  i'd look into the legal aspects of it before i did anything.
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RE: legal question for pro dommes - 10/24/2008 6:26:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Google is your friend, many legal statues are on the internet.  Also, consult a law enforcement officer.  You might live in an area that is not interested in prosecuting pro dominants, or you might find that they are a target.

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RE: legal question for pro dommes - 10/24/2008 7:41:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Google the local laws.
Find out about the local climate: how often are Pro Dommes targeted by LE, etc.
Set up a screening process: ask for referrals, job phone numbers, etc.



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RE: legal question for pro dommes - 10/24/2008 11:03:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Coupleofwhats
Find out about the local climate: how often are Pro Dommes targeted by LE, etc.


You beat Me to it.   IMHO, a lot of times the laws concerning Pro Domination are based on interpretation. Hell, all the laws are based on interpretation.

For example: strap-on play can actually be considered prostitution because it involves penetration, but it depends on how law enforcement chooses to see it. So the local climate regarding Pro Dommes is definitely something She'd want to look into.

If it were Me, I would err on the side of caution- I'd talk online to get to know each other, meet for lunch to see if we're comfy with one another, and ultimately start off with a "light" session. If he was an undercover cop, I doubt he'd jump through all those hoops (not to mention let someone paddle his ass) just to make one arrest.


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RE: legal question for pro dommes - 10/25/2008 9:04:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds like a question worthy of a call to an attorney.  You may also want to get in touch with the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom for some advice. 
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RE: legal question for pro dommes - 10/25/2008 9:10:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		My favorite pro domme simply hired a lawyer in her state to find out.

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RE: legal question for pro dommes - 10/26/2008 5:53:19 AM   
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LadyHibiscus wrote: Google is your friend, many legal statues are on the internet.

Be very wary of coming to conclusions about what the law says by reading the law.  Your interpretation of a given legal text may be dramatically different from a trained lawyer's. 

Even in the absence of this, written law is often deliberately open-ended.  You might find that all the relevant statute says is that prostitution means the performance of sexual services in exchange for payment and is illegal  What constitutes a `sexual service'?  Does payment have to be with money or could it be with goods or services?  This sort of thing is established by case law so, unless you're familiar with all the relevant case law, as well as the statutes, you can't say anything for certain.  In the absence of any relevant case law, you're basically in the situation of it being legal if your lawyer can convince a jury that it is.

The cynic might suggest that this is all just a scheme to keep the lawyers in well-paid jobs but it does have certain advantages.  For example, too tight a definition of what constitutes payment might lead to a loophole when a new payment technique is brought in, until the legislation catches up.  (Hookers by paypal!)

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