fergus
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My masachist theory is dichotomous:
1) that when it isn't seated in a deeper, more serious psychology (sociopothy, surgical addiction, rape addiction, etc) that it has alot to do with the highly associative nature of the human brain. That is, as you have explored, or seen explored (in movies, on TV, in porn, etc) sexuality, there have been patterns of violent overtones embedded within the experiences (action movies with love scenes, violent TV shows, or even the easy accessibility of BDSM material on the web); as the human brain is so associative, sex and violence merged like many paraphalias (I know, technically, only men have paraphalias; I use the term loosely).
2) Of course, this associative nature could be more or less than just violence in media; you could have had many bad intimate relationships, and the underlying negativity associated with the intertwined sexuality, creating a kind of neurosis (Dr Freud would say you were taking out your past aggressions on the most convinient person: your current partner).
I'm still a bit sketchy on my sadist theory; I've developed, though only from my own experience, that it is a way of feeling something; pain is the easiest thing to feel. I think that we are numbed by media and rationalizations that we experience today. Maybe even from too little contact with other people (Refer to the movie, "Crash" for a delightful narration of a similar theory). Such a numbness makes us want to feel something ('so we know we are still alive'; an interesting observation of schitzophorenics reveals a tendency to hurt themselves when they experience compulsory hallucinations -- it is usually done as a symbol to establish, in the patient's mind, that he or she is still alive).
Of course, under the two theories, it's easy to see how the two neuroses could become associated or intertwined.
Just my thoughts,
-- CM
CM,
Very interesting ideas. One the first part, I can't say that I totally agree with the "over exposure to violence" idea only because the whole of our human history has been punctuated with real violence. Often the violence was directly witnessed as in wars, looting, public hangings, witch trials, to Roamn colloseum etc.
I tend to go with your second theory, not about our associations of sex and violence, but rather our DISassociations from feeling. I think in our over-secularized world, we often stimulate the brain to such a degree that emotional reasoning (TOTALLY different from conscious, cognative reasoning) is far underdeveloped in people today. So, we still need our emotional outlets, and oftimes they will manifest themselves in these ways.
That being said, I am MOST inclined to lean towards John Warrens thoughts.....
That although intrigueing, all the wonderful sounding theories we can come up with will disagree with each other ;)
At any rate, a 'normal' person is someone you don't know very well.
fergus
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, try "When Someone You Love Is Kinky" by Dossie Easton and Catherine Listz. (I never even got a chance to read it myself, but the reviews on it were good.) 
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