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Alpha Submissives - 11/18/2008 4:28:17 PM   
reneya


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Status: offline 		I am a collared 24/7 bottom heavy switch, but I know that there is more to me than that. I am an alpha submissive. I already take on the role in my Master's household with my sub-sister, but I'll be honest, I am new at it and so far I haven't been able to find any others like myself or very much information on what it means to be one, though I'll be happy to share the thoughts I've had so far.

An alpha submissive, to the best of my understanding is the first among those households with multiple slaves, submissives or pets. It is his or her duty to ease the transition of a new addition into the household, to provide a good example for the others, and to use her skills and experience to make the Dom, Domme(female), Master or Mistress' job easier. I'll be the first to say that I am new at this and thus have a lot to learn and need a lot of work before I'll come close to meeting the standards I have set for myself.

I do not have any authority not explicitly given to me by my Master. It is only with his approval, for his benefit and a direct measure of his trust in me that I am allowed to give direction to those in his care. When I do, it is with the knowledge that if I am wrong, any punishment will come down on me, not the submissive I am directing, and that punishment will be much worse for me, than what a submissive acting on his or her own would get.

What I'd like to hear from you is:
  1)Are you an alpha submissive or have first hand experience with one?
  2)How do you see the role of an alpha bottom in a D/s or M/s relationship?
  3)And do you know where I can find more information about them?
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RE: Alpha Submissives - 11/18/2008 7:04:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		You might get more responses if you post in the Poly section.

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RE: Alpha Submissives - 11/18/2008 7:13:35 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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ORIGINAL: reneya
1)Are you an alpha submissive or have first hand experience with one?
2)How do you see the role of an alpha bottom in a D/s or M/s relationship?
3)And do you know where I can find more information about them?

I have had the position as an alpha and have been with others.  I see the roles as simply a given mark on the totem pole.  And yes, there is the polyamory section as well as the search feature which will give you a handful of topics specifically on the alpha slave.

The best advice is to remember that they deserve fulfillment as much as you do, that your position is a reward and a responsibility, and alpha does not mean "cooler."

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RE: Alpha Submissives - 11/18/2008 9:04:07 PM   
stella41b


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RE: Alpha Submissives - 11/19/2008 12:46:49 PM   
SlaveIndigochild


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quote:

ORIGINAL: reneya


What I'd like to hear from you is:
1)Are you an alpha submissive or have first hand experience with one?
2)How do you see the role of an alpha bottom in a D/s or M/s relationship?
3)And do you know where I can find more information about them?


1. yes i am: definitely, according to my own integrity; maybe, according to others' understanding of the term...................
2. my role is one of deference to my Master but i understand that i was chosen because i am an alpha slave amongst other reasons. my role would be to initiate other slaves/submissives and to teach/mentor/guide (other verbs apply) them when required.i am indiosyncratic (but not alone in this) in as much as i am bisexual and prefer to top women since i always found it difficult to top a male and find myself
increasingly indifferent to this would would do so if instructed to. i also consider myself as head of household with regard to chores, chld care and kitchen work.
3. look into your heart: this informs the most.
PS i is a hard bitch to top...... 
 

< Message edited by SlaveIndigochild -- 11/19/2008 12:50:00 PM >

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RE: Alpha Submissives - 11/19/2008 12:54:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: stella41b

If the object of the thread is to show or prove one's twueness, then I'm sorry, you can count me out.

une, due, tres, quattro, cinque......
looove the new pic Stella darlin........

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RE: Alpha Submissives - 11/19/2008 1:45:24 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		There was a user on bondage.com named bootpig (apparently no longer there) who wrote some of the best posts I've ever read about the responsibilities of an alpha slave and why someone would want that position.  These are a couple of examples I found, but if you're really interested it pays to sift through her 1,000+ posts and see what she has to say about the subject:

http://www.bondage.com/topic_id/239262/forums/topic.html
http://www.bondage.com/topic_id/178743/forums/topic.html

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RE: Alpha Submissives - 11/19/2008 1:55:13 PM   
DavanKael


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Status: offline 		I was in a relationship where it was suggested from outside that it would make sense for me to be the Alpha Submissive while the other female retained the statuses she already had. 
Imo, and this is only from theoretical and self-knowledge, I'd be a great alpha sub as I function very well as a 'right hand man' to a partner.  I believe it is an excellent place for a person of strength, consistency, and confidence. 
And, as someone suggested, you may want to float a similar thread in the poly section as you'll see more of a manifestation of such dynamics there-in. 
  Davan

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RE: Alpha Submissives - 11/19/2008 2:03:47 PM   
colouredin


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Status: offline 		Sometimes the alpha position is given to the one in the position longest, sometimes its a reward. sometimes its what fits the personalities best, sometimes it goes to the one with the most insecurity, sometimes its implicit and people naturally gravitate to the roles. As has been said hopefully the labels given to each person is what suits them best and isnt used as an 'im better than you' thing because thats just sad.

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RE: Alpha Submissives - 11/19/2008 3:29:37 PM   
pinkwind


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quote:

1)Are you an alpha submissive or have first hand experience with one?


i suppose i am what you would term an "alpha" slave, in that i am part of the core relationship, and have taken as part of my responsibility the shared duty to help smooth the introduction of my new sister slave. That responsibility runs in conjunction with Andy's responsibility to see that she feels comfortable and able to fulfil here role within the extended family we have.

quote:

2)How do you see the role of an alpha bottom in a D/s or M/s relationship?


See above...

Also i am unable to move forward in the dynamic we have without having become friends with the others that Andy takes as family members, so i have to be honest with myself and with Andy about my feelings, as well as put in unbiased efforts to make friends and encourage reciprocation.

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3And do you know where I can find more information about them?


Look at poly forums, talk to others that have travelled the path, ask questions even if they might seem simple, but above all listen to the inner voice, take heed of gut instinct and don't let yourself be pulled ino relationships that do not fulfil your needs along with the rest.

Hope this helps.

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RE: Alpha Submissives - 11/20/2008 6:21:56 AM   
reneya


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Status: offline 		Wow, lordandmaster. You were right. Bootpig's posts are amazing. It's too bad she's not around anymore. What she says really gets to what I feel is the heart of how things should be.

I don't really place much importance on the label itself, but I do see my role as very necessary and vital to our relationship. He needs me and what I can provide for Him every bit as much as I need Him.

Thank you all for your responses, and I will definitely be checking out what those in the poly section have to say as well.

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