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Firebirdseeking -> SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/23/2008 5:25:14 PM)

I did a search of this topic, and found some information.  But:  has anyone had to deal with someone who is terribly allergic to their beloved feline family?  if someone has not been tested in 5 years, is it worth revisiting the allergist?  Is it a lost cause?




mistoferin -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/23/2008 5:31:37 PM)

I am allergic to cats to the point that I have had severe anaphylactic reactions to some of them that involved my airway becoming completely closed off necessitating the use of epinephrine. As I said though, it is only to "some" cats....and no it doesn't have a thing to do with the length of their hair. Some cats don't bother me a bit. I find that I do better in homes with a cat if the home is kept very clean and well dusted. I've also noticed a big difference in a couple of homes where the owners have really good quality vacuum cleaners that don't disperse the allergens through the air...like the Rainbow water vacs for example. I wouldn't give up hope...it might be manageable.




Kalista07 -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/23/2008 5:34:51 PM)

He is significantly allergic to cats....Even worse to dogs, though...He's more like Erin regarding to dogs the way she is with some cats.  However one month before i got the job up here He offered to take in the Tickey Kitty. i do my best to keep the place cat hair free but i'm not the best at it. He also takes Zyrtec to help with the allergies.
i hope that helps,
Kali




LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/23/2008 6:17:00 PM)

There is a homeopathic that is very helpful in reducing the reaction to cats.  It's not the hair that is the problem, it's the dander.  That's why different coats lengths don't seem to be the triggering effect for erin's allergic reaction.  I knew one woman who was terribly allergic to cats & was given this homeopathic since she needed to go into a not very clean home with cats & lots & lots of dander around.  She reported that she had hardly any reaction while using the homeopathic, but discontinued usage of it for some unknown reason & went back to complaining about her reaction.

For some with even very severe allergies, hypnosis can help.  A friend had a terrible allergic reaction to cut grass.  One day, I dropped by & he was cutting his own grass & was completely free of a reaction.  He told me that he had gone to a hypnotherapist & was now doing self-hypnosis & it was like a freakin miracle!!!




amativedame -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/23/2008 6:51:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LinnaeaBorealis

There is a homeopathic that is very helpful in reducing the reaction to cats.  It's not the hair that is the problem, it's the dander.  That's why different coats lengths don't seem to be the triggering effect for erin's allergic reaction.  I knew one woman who was terribly allergic to cats & was given this homeopathic since she needed to go into a not very clean home with cats & lots & lots of dander around.  She reported that she had hardly any reaction while using the homeopathic, but discontinued usage of it for some unknown reason & went back to complaining about her reaction.

For some with even very severe allergies, hypnosis can help.  A friend had a terrible allergic reaction to cut grass.  One day, I dropped by & he was cutting his own grass & was completely free of a reaction.  He told me that he had gone to a hypnotherapist & was now doing self-hypnosis & it was like a freakin miracle!!!


Both are most likely psychologically based.  Allergies are basically an auto-immune reaction.  If one takes a placebo (like my mother did for allergies years ago) one can experience no issues what so ever.  Granted, there are some other things that can help with allergies and the like... but the brain is a seriously powerful thing.  The hypnosis might actually be a form of bio-feedback, which can also have some incredible effects.  (Its actually been shown to improve things like blood pressure and heart problems over time... it just takes a lot of effort and time and does not show immediate improvement since its a bit like a skill.)

There are some dander products that pet stores tend to sell to help people with allergies.  They can make a difference, and so does cleaning habits (I miss having a rainbow vac terribly.)  Its most certainly worth a trip to the allergist too.  Depending on your reaction, you may find a simple prescription everyday might be the key, and I've known several people who have had some really great experiences with shots.  You have a lot to possibly gain, compared to what you have to loose.




femmetasia -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/24/2008 12:00:41 AM)

Laughing so hard at myself here. When i read this topic header my curiosity was piqued too say the least, wondering what the symptoms of an allergic reaction to a cat o' nine tails would be!  

Sorry to go off topic here and i sincerely hope you find a solution soon. 




pixidustpet -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/24/2008 6:09:26 AM)

my ex hubby is terribly allergic to a lot of animals, to the point that he had to quit his job over it (store manager at petco).  the pet dander stuff *did* help, you just dampen a washcloth with it and wipe your pet and it helps neutralize the dander.  the problem was, he couldnt treat all the store animals, and he was sadly addicted to breathing.

not having pets at all has been the only thing that reliably worked for him.  if you*do* keep pets, keep the house very clean and the pets too.  and contrary to popular belief, you CAN get a kitty adjusted to being bathed.  a reliable allegen medicine (zyrtec or claratin) taken religiously can relieve symptoms, but if the allergies are life-threatening (wolf has asthma.  his allergies *can* be life threatening), i'd say that you *must* keep the idea of re-homing the animal(s) in mind.

before anyone jump my shit about that, what do you do if your UM is born allergic to an animal?  get rid of the impling, or find a new loving home for the fur-baby?  and yes, we DID have to finally make that decision when it became that he was using the rescue inhaler 5 times a day to keep himself breathing.  he kept visitation rights with the dog we had, but he just couldnt live with her in the house at all times. 

kitten, who doesnt have any pets at the moment because she cant care for them.




moonvine -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/24/2008 7:05:23 AM)

Well, in my case the cat would have been here first, so I guess I'd find a new home for the um.

In all seriousness, I'd find an allergist that would work with the um and find a solution that didn't involve getting rid of another family member.  If it was a man, they would need to figure out a way of dealing with the allergy or find another woman who didn't have cats.  But that's just me.




angelikaJ -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/24/2008 11:21:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LinnaeaBorealis

It's not the hair that is the problem, it's the dander. 


As I understand it it is actually a protien in the cat's saliva.




Termyn8or -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/24/2008 10:03:15 PM)

You don't want to know, but here goes. When the symptoms appear, light an entire book of matches and inhale the fumes. Repeat as necessary. I bought whole boxes of books of matches and did that for a while. After that I was quite desensitized.

It sounds a bit rough, and it is, but it worked. Obviously it is not for everybody though.

T




adora2 -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/24/2008 11:29:52 PM)

Allergies can be triggered by the saliva of cats, or the dander. My freind has severe asthma and allergies to cats, but for some reason insists on taking in homeless strays- she is up to 3 now. She vaccuums, dusts and swiffers daily, and has an air cleaner going all the time. Her other also brushes the cats daily and runs a wet washcloth over them. The cats are never allowed in the bedroom. This,along with allergy meds keeps her from a hospital visit.

I will admit I am with the school of if that cat was there first, then the cat stays. In the end, who will be around the longest.




moonvine -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/24/2008 11:35:38 PM)

I have a similar friend with 3 cats.  He says Zyrtec works for him, though.  




atypicalsub -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/25/2008 12:15:50 AM)

What has already been said here about keeping the place as clean as possible is right on.  Another thing that will help is getting an air cleaner with a HEPA filter.  At minimum get one for the room you sleep in.  If possible bet one for each room.  Change the filters regularly.  Also use alergen filters in place of the normal furnace filters.  Filtering the air *will* make a noticable difference.  I say this from experience of living with people who had both alergies and asthma.




DreamyLadySnow -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/26/2008 9:37:53 PM)

Cats are one of the things I am most allergic to. They are my worst inhalant allergy. Time, hypnosis, placebos do nothing to help my breathing. Not being around cats? That kicks ass. Well actually it doesn't, as I love cats.
IF the affected person's allergy has not changed in 5 years, revisiting the allergist won't make him/her less allergic. Shots are minimally helpful. Drugs are ok short term but not all day, every day.
The VERY CLEAN thing and keeping the cat in another room during a visit will help.




MistresseLotus -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/27/2008 12:47:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I am allergic to cats to the point that I have had severe anaphylactic reactions to some of them that involved my airway becoming completely closed off necessitating the use of epinephrine. As I said though, it is only to "some" cats....and no it doesn't have a thing to do with the length of their hair. Some cats don't bother me a bit. I find that I do better in homes with a cat if the home is kept very clean and well dusted. I've also noticed a big difference in a couple of homes where the owners have really good quality vacuum cleaners that don't disperse the allergens through the air...like the Rainbow water vacs for example. I wouldn't give up hope...it might be manageable.


(side note --->)  Having a couple dogs (lab being one of them) and cats... I invested in a Dyson made for animal hair. It's fantasic.




mystickoolaid -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/27/2008 12:52:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I am allergic to cats to the point that I have had severe anaphylactic reactions to some of them that involved my airway becoming completely closed off necessitating the use of epinephrine. As I said though, it is only to "some" cats....and no it doesn't have a thing to do with the length of their hair. Some cats don't bother me a bit. I find that I do better in homes with a cat if the home is kept very clean and well dusted. I've also noticed a big difference in a couple of homes where the owners have really good quality vacuum cleaners that don't disperse the allergens through the air...like the Rainbow water vacs for example. I wouldn't give up hope...it might be manageable.


The allergic reaction to cats, dogs, etc. has nothing to do with their hair. It's an enzyme in their spit that gets transferred out of the mouth, onto the hair, skin, etc. that causes the allergic reaction in most people. Therefore even a bald cat isn't hypo-allergenic assuming it licks itself.

Maybe you could just get a cat with no tongue... I'm sure that would require a lot more work keeping it clean, and feeding it some sort of liquid or IV diet... but it might reduce the allergy. :P




mystickoolaid -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/27/2008 12:55:58 PM)

I thought I was the only one who found it *sad* that my ex husband has a breathing addiction and can't seem to quit LOL




MistressSassy66 -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/27/2008 2:06:05 PM)

I have 4 cats that all have different coat lengths.
Sometimes the long hair bugs Me because it tickles
the nose and that can make Me sneeze.
The long hair one loves to be brushed so
as long as hes brushed the hair and dander get
removed,to some extent anyway.It helps.

I take Alavert,Singulair and the good Sudafed,sometimes I
have to use Benedryl also.I have Allergies to almost everything.
I also use a new nasal spray Veramyst,it has a very fine mist
so you dont get that stuff dripping in your throat.I wash My hands
often and use a lint brush to help keep the hair off My clothes and
away from My face. I really love My cats [:D] 
However if I started having severe reactions I would have to
get rid of them.They dont bother My Asthma so they can stay.

Dusting and a good vaccum and wearing a mask while dusting
or other cleaning activities can help a lot.

One of the things that bugs Me most is dog saliva.
That stuff dries on Me like a facial mask,all tight feeling.
I start itching,its horrible.

I have to agree the cat was there first the cat stays. =^..^=




moonvine -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/27/2008 2:10:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mystickoolaid

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I am allergic to cats to the point that I have had severe anaphylactic reactions to some of them that involved my airway becoming completely closed off necessitating the use of epinephrine. As I said though, it is only to "some" cats....and no it doesn't have a thing to do with the length of their hair. Some cats don't bother me a bit. I find that I do better in homes with a cat if the home is kept very clean and well dusted. I've also noticed a big difference in a couple of homes where the owners have really good quality vacuum cleaners that don't disperse the allergens through the air...like the Rainbow water vacs for example. I wouldn't give up hope...it might be manageable.


The allergic reaction to cats, dogs, etc. has nothing to do with their hair. It's an enzyme in their spit that gets transferred out of the mouth, onto the hair, skin, etc. that causes the allergic reaction in most people. Therefore even a bald cat isn't hypo-allergenic assuming it licks itself.

Maybe you could just get a cat with no tongue... I'm sure that would require a lot more work keeping it clean, and feeding it some sort of liquid or IV diet... but it might reduce the allergy. :P



I am not an expert on hypoallergenic cats, but I believe the bald ones do not groom themselves, not having any fur to groom.  I have heard that you need to bathe them regularly to keep them clean as they do not clean themselves.




DelilahDeb -> RE: SEVERE SEVERE cat allergy - is there help? (11/27/2008 3:14:40 PM)

Background info: grass pollen and cat dander are structurally/chemically quite similar. This is one reason why so many folks have both allergies. Of course, the fact that cats (most pets) generally have access to getting their coats full of lawn toxins (grass allergies here!) doesn't help.
The largest component of household dust in most environments is pollen—something close to three-quarters of it!

The victim can:

  • 1, Get a neti pot (I use a small porcelain gravy pitcher) and use it at least morning and evening. (Wash out sinuses with warm salted water, like the old gargle recipe for sort throats.) Huge help. NY Times article on the neti pot.
  • 2. Establish an "allergen-free" place for the victim to sleep; I lived through four years of three-plus months massive grass pollen allergies without such. (It was as if I had a streaming head cold at its worst stage continuously for those three months, to the point that I slept no more than two hours a night before sinus pressure pain in my face woke me up and forced me to turn over so the full side could drain…until the other side filled up)—and the night that my mom installed a room size ESP air cleaner in my room was the first time I slept through a night during March–June in my entire high school career.) This may take significant home changes: excluding allergens (cats) permanently from the bedroom; cleaning/washing the entire room from the ceiling and walls down including closets (carpets are much harder to clean than wood floor, tile, or lino); removing and washing or cleaning every scrap of fabric or bedding and getting it back into the room before a cat sleeps on the nice warm stuff in the dryer basket.
  • 3. Get and use under-pillowcases and mattress covers for managing allergies (they prevent dust in pillows and mattress from being dislodged into one's immediate airspace every time one gets into bed or moves around in bed). They're washable but won't need it every time you change the normal bedding. Maybe every third or fourth time. If a cat gets in, repeat at least the later half of step 1, washing fabrics.
  • 4. Acquire a electrostatic precipitator type room air cleaner (these bleeping HEPA filter units are relatively cheap ($60) but require that you throw plastic single-use filters away frequently and replacements cost almost a third of the cost of the unit ($15–20 each)! Electrostatic precipitator units have metal plates on which the junk in the air is captured by controlled static and can then be cleaned by washing regularly—some models have a "club sandwich" of collector plates in a single removable assembly that one can run through a dishwasher on a gentle cycle. Honeywell and others make ESP units that you can add to a central AC/furnace or to individual duct registers in specific room/s. Brands to hunt for include Bionaire and Pollenex and any working OEM clones: I've owned Montgomery Ward, Kenmore and Tryon (both bought at Sears), and I dunno what all. The spendy Sharper Image brand Ionic Breeze also cleans the air using ESP and are silent when operating…but (a) they are damn pricey, and (b) I was never able to find out how much air they circulate how quickly. Older Kenmore and other ESP units that I have owned specifically state that they, for example, "remove 95.8% of pollutants from 2,000 cubic feet of air—that's a room 10x20 feet with a 10-foot ceiling—within 20 minutes when running the fan on high speed."
  • 5. Talk to your MD about older as well as newer antihistamines (histamine is the stuff your immune system makes because it thinks the allergen is some sort of attacking organism). When Benadryl was the only antihistamine available, it was Hobson's choice, but these days there are both the "passé" prescriptions that are available over the counter, everything from nose sprays, pills, inhalers, eyedrops. Speaking of passé, I find the antihistamine trade-named Cromolyn Sodium (the active ingredient in Nasalcrom nose spray, as well as the prescription inhaler Intal and eyedrops Opticrom) a very effective choice that—when combined with my safe-zone bedroom—very much minimize any symptomatic meds I might need to use. A far cry from when I had to spend my three-plus months so dopey with symptoms that I didn't even notice any "drowsiness" side effects of Benadryl and its cousins.


Everyone is different. I provide this laundry list for the aid of folks who would rather help themselves first, and resort to so-so medical practitioners later.

Lady Delilah Deb




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