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slave's second chances - 12/26/2005 4:58:49 PM

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Should a Master give them? Acceptance and forgive?
Ignore mistakes? Turn the other cheek? Say "move on?"
I'm just asking?
My view is this.
Everyone gets one chance and one chance only....that will include,,,tight bondage, a severe ass whipping...and total humiliation. That's the one chance...and that's it!
Am I too harsh?
No second chances....ever...ever!
I'm in a New York state of mind........but, I do love my Pet..........Katy!

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/26/2005 5:06:40 PM

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quote:

Should a Master give them? Acceptance and forgive?

Hmm, well, much like stated before...It would depend on the infraction.

quote:

Ignore mistakes? Turn the other cheek? Say "move on?"

No, never ignore a mistake. Use approiate measures to correct it.

We are all human...we all make mistakes...no getting around that...the important thing is that we LEARN from them, and apply what we have learned so that we do not make the same mistake twice.

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/26/2005 5:13:18 PM

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quote:

Everyone gets one chance and one chance only....that will include,,,tight bondage, a severe ass whipping...and total humiliation. That's the one chance...and that's it!
Am I too harsh?

Yes, too harsh -- need more chances, more chances, more chances....please? With sugar on top, erm, bottom?

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/26/2005 5:16:15 PM

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sugar on bottom? Fastlane sings the lyrics.."Pour some sugar on me."

I think a sweet pus would be nice....., I've had enough sour pusses for a lifetime.......O,K.!

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/26/2005 5:18:18 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: fastlane

Should a Master give them? Acceptance and forgive?
Ignore mistakes? Turn the other cheek? Say "move on?"
Everyone gets one chance and one chance only....Am I too harsh?
No second chances....ever...ever!
I'm in a New York state of mind........but, I do love my Pet..........Katy!

weren't you just asking about a "friend" who was a dom who had made a mistake? hmmm. curious, that. should trust be trusted, or does one always go with a back up line up? some things just seem to repeat themselves in life, whether in the glory of changing leaves, a beautiful sunset, or in a new york minute.

< Message edited by girl4you2 -- 12/26/2005 5:20:06 PM >

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/26/2005 5:18:51 PM

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Second chances are all well and good, but it seems like they would have to be well-earned in this case.

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/26/2005 5:57:19 PM

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if the slave in question has learned and master doesn't think the behavior will be repeated
but it depends on the situation.

sometimes a slave does learn
from her mistakes

quote:

ORIGINAL: fastlane

Should a Master give them? Acceptance and forgive?
Ignore mistakes? Turn the other cheek? Say "move on?"
I'm just asking?
My view is this.
Everyone gets one chance and one chance only....that will include,,,tight bondage, a severe ass whipping...and total humiliation. That's the one chance...and that's it!
Am I too harsh?
No second chances....ever...ever!
I'm in a New York state of mind........but, I do love my Pet..........Katy!

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/26/2005 6:20:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

if the slave in question has learned and master doesn't think the behavior will be repeated
but it depends on the situation.

sometimes a slave does learn
from her mistakes

or perhaps if the mistake was on the part of the master, and the slave doesn't think that the behaviour will be repeated, then perhaps she should forgive him, but it does all depend upon the situation.

i wish you well.

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/26/2005 6:34:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: fastlane

.......but, I do love my Pet..........Katy!

best of wishes to you both.

i wish you well.

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/26/2005 8:58:29 PM

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Well, as one who often needs a few chances to figure out the "right" way to do stuff, I'm all for second chances...

We all make mistakes. Huge ones. Enormous ones. Dom's make 'em too.

Sometimes we need to practice knowing the rules. Knowing your rules.

I vote "Yes" on Bill Second Chances.

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/26/2005 9:04:20 PM

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quote:

Should a Master give them? Acceptance and forgive?
Ignore mistakes? Turn the other cheek? Say "move on?"
I'm just asking?

I've seen you post enough on this board to know you are far from perfect as the rest of us.
So, would you want your slave to give you a second chance after you messed up?

Or discard you? You should treat your slave the same way you'd like to be treated, after all that is how respect is born.

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/26/2005 9:21:00 PM

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i'm in the second chances camp since i have a habit of making stupid mistakes... but it also depends on the mistake. If it was something delibrate and sufficiently serious then perhaps a second chance isn't in order.

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/26/2005 10:13:42 PM

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2nd chance?

oh shitski.

this is a touchy topic.
1st thing is;
"I" have NEVER ever done anything on-purpose...to hurt anyone...w/o being provoked.
so if 'a' domme said i wasn't good enough..she best have a damned good reason coz i dont know anyone that walks on water YET!

i know for a fact..if ya dont screw up the 1st time ya dont NEED a 2nd chance...huh?
"I" walk the straight n narrow..365.
i am not one that stirs up shit just to get my way...and piss anyone off on purpose..

ya know?
if ya said...
example A///
i would be better to answer for ya.
i seen 'a' post here somewhere about 'a' domme and a sub boy...he was on the net doin stuff and she got miffed over it.
like as if the world came to a halt, right?
nope. wallstreet didnt end..but she got all ticked over this subbie.
what in hell happened to sit at the table and just explain things/
get all pissy and say she wants to throw the guy out over some small thing...like as if...

but this is the issue. what 1 person thinks is bad...another don't.
Mistress here is white collar and enjoys social pleasantries.
i am blue collar and society can kiss my ass.
so Her and i clash.
what SHE thinks is bad.."I" don't.

2nd chances? what happened to cause the FIRST one?

bad communication again?

this is what irks ME........people assume shit.
never ever assume such n such,.,,,

TALK dammit...
and stuff won't happen...............

ya know?

take care
be well

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/27/2005 6:25:46 AM

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I've seen you post enough on this board to know you are far from perfect as the rest of us.
So, would you want your slave to give you a second chance after you messed up?

sub4hire....ouchie....you do swing a hard paddle.
You know I can't wait to look in the mirror, because I'm perfect in every way.....LOL
O.K., O.K, not perfect....but not too far from it!

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/27/2005 7:48:43 AM

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ohhhhh i like that

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ORIGINAL: girl4you2

quote:

ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

if the slave in question has learned and master doesn't think the behavior will be repeated
but it depends on the situation.

sometimes a slave does learn
from her mistakes

or perhaps if the mistake was on the part of the master, and the slave doesn't think that the behaviour will be repeated, then perhaps she should forgive him, but it does all depend upon the situation.

i wish you well.

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/27/2005 8:04:42 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: girl4you2

quote:

ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

if the slave in question has learned and master doesn't think the behavior will be repeated
but it depends on the situation.

sometimes a slave does learn
from her mistakes

or perhaps if the mistake was on the part of the master, and the slave doesn't think that the behaviour will be repeated, then perhaps she should forgive him, but it does all depend upon the situation.

i wish you well.

quote:

or perhaps if the mistake was on the part of the master, and the slave doesn't think that the behaviour will be repeated, then perhaps she should forgive him, but it does all depend upon the situation.

i wish you well.

I think the question was about giving the slave/submissive....a second chance?
A slave who turns it around and blames her Master for her mistakes, is not a worthy slave to begin with, in my view.

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/27/2005 8:05:52 AM

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it seems like in this case a second chance would be a good way for the D/s relationship to grow... trust is important, and if you trust each other to try something again, then it can be an enriching experience for both of you if all goes well.

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/27/2005 8:16:23 AM

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I wonder where any of us would be today if we were only given "one chance" at, well, anything.

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/27/2005 8:19:21 AM

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I wonder where any of us would be today if we were only given "one chance" at, well, anything.

I think we would all be very lonely, alone, without direction, angry, bitter, and well....just plain a bitch to be around

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RE: slave's second chances - 12/27/2005 9:09:39 AM

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O.K. O.K. O.K.

I'm extending my chances...to three.......kinda like aladdins lamp.....so, use them wisely and stop being so Bitchy....gals....LOL

Do, however, remember....Three strikes and your out....don't turn to me with them puppy dog eyes and say,,,"but fastlane, I tipped it."

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