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BbwCanaDomme -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 2:53:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MadAxeman

Because your position is built on sand and you appear poorly in this thread.


What position? Your joke wasn't funny. It's because it's considered threadjacking which I believe is frowned upon, plus this is an important issue that deserves better than a totally off topic discussion.




MadAxeman -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 3:00:28 AM)

Taking a day off is an important issue?
It's a poor thread that is 'jacked' by a one liner.
Attacking someone you don't know is a way of trivialising a thread, so accept responsibility.
Excrutiating manners and name calling are also frowned upon I understand.




BbwCanaDomme -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 3:12:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MadAxeman

Taking a day off is an important issue?
It's a poor thread that is 'jacked' by a one liner.
Attacking someone you don't know is a way of trivialising a thread, so accept responsibility.
Excrutiating manners and name calling are also frowned upon I understand.


The day without gays is an important event, and if it works out well, could potentially help the cause of gay marriage in the United States. Making incredibly bad jokes about eyeliner is trivializing the issue, which is one not many people have heard about yet, and some people may not read this thread if they see the petty bullshit :)




MadAxeman -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 3:17:42 AM)

How is wearing eyeliner while being on the phone, not funny?
Incredibly bad? That shows your humourlessness again.
If you think petty BS will harm the issue, STFU.




BbwCanaDomme -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 3:23:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MadAxeman

How is wearing eyeliner while being on the phone, not funny?
Incredibly bad? That shows your humourlessness again.
If you think petty BS will harm the issue, STFU.


Where was there a phone even mentioned? You're making no sense. And I never said petty bullshit would harm the cause, I said it could keep some people from informing themselves about it. So please keep your internet abbreviations to yourself, calm down, and respond in email instead of on here.




MadAxeman -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 3:28:00 AM)

Phoning in gay instead of sick was what I responded to. Keep up.
I will leave this, I do not want to hold gay rights back with this. Didn't realise I had that kind of power.
Have ended the CM mail thing, you are even less funny given room to spread your mind. It gets a bit high pitched and pingy stretched out like that.




RealityLicks -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 5:32:08 AM)

I think it's a great way to raise awareness about both conscious and unconscious homophobia.  Good luck to everyone who supports it.




thishereboi -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 6:47:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BbwCanaDomme

quote:

ORIGINAL: MadAxeman

Taking a day off is an important issue?
It's a poor thread that is 'jacked' by a one liner.
Attacking someone you don't know is a way of trivialising a thread, so accept responsibility.
Excrutiating manners and name calling are also frowned upon I understand.


The day without gays is an important event, and if it works out well, could potentially help the cause of gay marriage in the United States.
Well it would be nice if it did, I honestly don't think it will have much effect on how people feel about gays.

Making incredibly bad jokes about eyeliner is trivializing the issue, which is one not many people have heard about yet, and some people may not read this thread if they see the petty bullshit :)
Well I have heard much funnier jokes, I wouldn't clasify his as incredibly bad. Maybe I just didn't read it right. As to people not reading the rest of the thread because of it....sorry but I give people a little more credit than that. If they are intersted in the subject of the thread, they will read it, if not, you really can't blame MA for that.



AS to the OP....I hope it works, but I don't have a lot of faith that it will accomplish anything. I just hope no one loses their job today trying to make a statement.




Arpig -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 9:32:13 AM)

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What position? Your joke wasn't funny.

Actually it was.




Lynnxz -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 9:34:35 AM)

Personally, I wouldn't want to keep an employee who called in for this. There's plenty you can do on your off time without 'Calling in Gay'. You wouldn't get fired for being gay, you'd get fired for wasting my time.

I could care less if people are gay, bi, straight, what religion they choose to adhere too, piercings and hairstyle.... but you better fricking show up to work.




bestbabync -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 9:47:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Personally, I wouldn't want to keep an employee who called in for this. There's plenty you can do on your off time without 'Calling in Gay'. You wouldn't get fired for being gay, you'd get fired for wasting my time.

I could care less if people are gay, bi, straight, what religion they choose to adhere too, piercings and hairstyle.... but you better fricking show up to work.


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Emperor1956 -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 9:49:42 AM)

Random thought #1:  I've had an employee or two call me a mean cocksucker.  I guess I'm taking Thursday off!

Merc, when is "A day without a motherfucker day"?

E.

WAIT NO...ITS TODAY?   And I'm at work.   Dammit.




Raechard -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 9:51:31 AM)

I'm going to try phoning in Richard, we'll have to wait and see the results of zat.[8|]




kittinSol -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 9:58:29 AM)

Do you know that you're sounding more and more French :-) ?




Raechard -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 10:01:46 AM)

wOui.[8|]

I've already booked the whole of August off.[8|]




MadAxeman -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 10:08:32 AM)

No jokes now, gay rights are going down in flames.




Raechard -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 10:12:38 AM)

Ok ok Mr MadAxeman on a serious note: One could argue this insinuates gay people need more days off for being sick or they are just lazy. Obviously not well thought through to begin with and I wash my hands of the whole affair.




Emperor1956 -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 10:30:36 AM)

Now wait a minute.

BBWCanaDomme:  The day without gays is an important event,  No it is not.  It is a silly attention-grabbing stunt that has virtually no meaning.  Phoning one's self in "gay" says nothing other than "HEY, I want a day off and I'll color it as something political to scare you (my employer) into thinking I can do it."  There is nothing important in this.

and if it works out well, could potentially help the cause of gay marriage in the United States  How?  Silly me, I thought donating money (both personally and through my company) to civil rights organizations, giving liberal amounts of time off to my employees to work for change during the recent elections and having an absolutely gender/orientation blind workplace (including benefits for domestic partners) for many, many years would "help the cause of gay marriage".  Now I learn that those efforts are nothing...instead I should just let my employees "call in gay" once a year.  Well, that will save me HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dollars.  Thank you!

I'm an old fashioned boy.  There is an obligation between employer and employees that I value.  It isn't really complicated.  Basically, you (as my employee) do your job to the best of your ability without damaging my company or me, and you do as told (within legal limits).  I pay you an agreed upon sum, provide you the tools to do the job, and provide increasing rewards (not just money) for a job well done.  You don't introduce drama or difficulty to my workplace; I value you and strive to preserve your employment even in difficult economic times.  We respect each other.  Is that difficult?

Calling in "gay" is silly.   So is calling in vegetarian, or Mexican or male.   I would not look favorably on an employee who chose to take a day off this way.

E.




NuevaVida -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 11:00:06 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Has this gotten any publicity anywhere?



This thread is the first I've heard of it.

I'm not sure it's a great idea. I'm not a fan of blue flus and masses taking days off. It affects the businesses they work for, and my guess is, here in California, most businesses are supportive of their gay employees. I am fully supportive of organized charity events, however. Where I work, our department is taking a day to help the Salvation Army and a local food bank (half of the employees are going to one place, and half to the other). But this has been a group effort within the company, and measures have been taken to not negatively impact work.

Then again, if these gay employees have worked with their employers and obtained approval to do this, more power to them. Still, I don't think it's going to have the effect they are hoping for.




pahunkboy -> RE: 'A Day Without a Gay' Solidarity or Disclosure? (12/10/2008 12:45:58 PM)

I am gay, I think it is a bad idea.

The idea is to stay working so as to pay bills and put food on the table.

The cause is not aligned with the action.  

People who are bent out of shape on this issue, on either side, are missing the big picture.

The plantation we all live on...is experiencing fractional banking....  which will lead to a fraction of what we have now - as out new standard of living.

General work strikes are what one does to get better working conditions.

The Keynesian mode is woefully short... and once it gets thru the pipeline many wont have a job.

The 13 families who own the 13 branches of the federal reserve love it!

With this distraction, the fed reserve middleman is about to become 2 middleman in the middle of every transaction we touch or do - every single day of our life.

So what IS in that pipeline?    That is the question.    Trust me, when a man hasnt eaten in 30 days... all the "attitude" goes away, a profound humbleness ensues, and as it goes... the new help gotten ... eternal thanks, ie homeage is owed.

See?






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