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SunshineSunny -> Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 11:36:50 AM)
I have come across a few profiles that say no FAKES and yet .. have Chatted in Collar me that if i don't do something they want .. THey would call me fake " and yet when i ask a question .. about how do i know .. if a Dom is a fake people get offended. Lauren0221 wrote back to me .. saying :" Just because someone is not right for us does not make them a fake. It makes them not right for us, and they could very well be someone else's ideal Dominant. " ~ In which I do agree with her .. ~ " Can someone tell me why most men Don't look at it that way .. and calls us fakes when they are mad or they don't get their way or even post it in their profiles ? Sunny

TheVoiceofOne -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 11:41:46 AM)
I have no idea... maybe they are children? I have never done that, and I never look at dom male profiles.

xxblushesxx -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 11:46:47 AM)
'cause they hafta play with their own pee pees and they're bored with it...

IronBear -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 11:47:14 AM)
Short answer is I don't call people fakes other than those who are either call girls, spammers or bots ..

Padriag -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 12:01:33 PM)
It comes down to unfulfilled expectations. When someone doesn't match your expectations of what you think they should be, its natural not to think of them as being "fake". Its all subjective. Look at all the arguments about sub vs slave... or what a dominant should be, or what qualifies someone as a "master"... and you see just how subjective and personal all these things are. Doesn't make it any less annoying when someone calls you a fake... but perhaps it helps a little to know that all it really comes down to is that you weren't what they expected. Its also worth noting how varied and diverse those expectations are... and some of those expectations are entirely unrealistic. So keep in mind who you are dealing with, and that none of this is set in stone... be who you are, sooner or later you'll find someone who thinks that is quite "real".

OsideGirl -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 12:11:36 PM)
It's because they're trying guilt/manipulate you into doing what they want. To me "fake" is someone pretending to be someone they're not. Someone who claims experience that they don't have. Or someone that claims to want a r/t relationship but won't ever meet.

kdmfl -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 12:12:38 PM)
I would have to agree with Ironbear. Solicitation and not sincere interest in meeting others I would consider a fake or someone who is just outright lying for their own amusement

Lynnxz -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 12:15:18 PM)
The pornbots I suppose? The callgirls are certainly real, even if they get some folks moral panties in a bunch. Also, I tend to raise an eyebrow at emails from Africa or Egypt. [:D]

lauren0221 -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 12:20:34 PM)
Some humans, and I don't think this confined to people calling themselves Dominants, seem to need to make the other person wrong or "fake", rather than face that there were incompatibilities or issues that are the actual reasons for things not working out. IMHO, it is not a sign of strength or self awareness.

Lockit -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 12:30:05 PM)
Okay they may not be compatible... But someone who isn't pleased with what I will not do for them, that calls me names is a jerk... okay I really did want to say something else! They are an all too real disappointed name calling person.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 12:33:08 PM)
I'm always a fake to those I refuse to go out with! I'm fat, as well! [:D]

LadyPact -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 12:50:25 PM)
One of the answers is that it is a manipulation tool that has worked for some in the past in some situations. It's a childish way to try to coerce someone into doing something and at times it works. The classic example, "you must be a fake since you won't get on cam" comes to mind.

IronBear -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 12:59:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lynnxz The pornbots I suppose? The callgirls are certainly real, even if they get some folks moral panties in a bunch. Also, I tend to raise an eyebrow at emails from Africa or Egypt. [:D] Ermmm Egypt is situated to the Northern Portion of the African Continent…. Besides emails from Africa (usually Ghana, Egypt and Morocco), I also get emails from the USA, UK and Europe. With the latter two confusing Australia with Australia. Just goes to show that some people only read the first few letters in each word and guess what the word is and then never read the profile in full…… Ye Gods and little fishes how I with it was legal to mount a genuine slave raid and scoop up all these dunder heads. Select what I want for my home, then separate those who have top market quality and send the rest to the upper reaches of the Amazon into either slave labour or prostitution in the mining camps..

peppermint -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 1:23:41 PM)
quote: Can someone tell me why most men Don't look at it that way .. and calls us fakes when they are mad or they don't get their way or even post it in their profiles ? Have you considered that most you meet here are not what they say they are? So, it follows that they are going to call you fake because they haven't the foggiest idea what they are doing in the first place. Look...this is a free site. There are no tests and criteria someone has to pass to have a profile here. That means that every Tom, Dick and Hairy has a profile here because they think a submissive means an easy one night roll in bed. The best way....in my own opinion...of finding a partner is to attend munches and events. Yes, there are some bad apples in every bunch, however, your odds there are so much better of finding someone who really has an interest in all this than online.

Rover -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 1:59:12 PM)
It's been my experience that having realistic expectations for the behavior of those you meet in chat (male or female, Dominant or submissive) are generally misplaced. Case in point... the Dominants you're meeting in chat expect "real" submissives will defer to them simply because they are (calling themselves) Dominant. How realistic is that? Not very. So really, they're behaving just as I would expect most folks in chat to behave. What's out of step are your expectations. Either lower them to correspond with the general standard found in chat, or find another venue that is more compatible with your expectations as they exist. Like the forums. John

lally3 -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 2:27:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus I'm always a fake to those I refuse to go out with! I'm fat, as well! [:D] that made me laugh, thanks. youre fake when all their best efforts failed - its an attack on their prowess and cannot be allowed. pathetic really. hopefully one day, if they ever do bother to find out how it works theyll realise that domination of another is down to chemistry (pretty much) and not sustainably enforceable through cyber enhanced fantasy and a vague notion that telling someone what to do is all there is to it. throw in the urge to spank a yielding, helpless bottom asap and fuck like the last rabbit on the planet - and you have yourself a confusion of bog ignorance and frustration. just my opinion on the matter.

OrionTheWolf -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 2:51:49 PM)
Because they would rather use petty manipulation and emotional blackmail, to get you to do what they want. Rather than good dominant and leadership qualities, that they may lack. quote: ORIGINAL: SunshineSunny I have come across a few profiles that say no FAKES and yet .. have Chatted in Collar me that if i don't do something they want .. THey would call me fake " and yet when i ask a question .. about how do i know .. if a Dom is a fake people get offended. Lauren0221 wrote back to me .. saying :" Just because someone is not right for us does not make them a fake. It makes them not right for us, and they could very well be someone else's ideal Dominant. " ~ In which I do agree with her .. ~ " Can someone tell me why most men Don't look at it that way .. and calls us fakes when they are mad or they don't get their way or even post it in their profiles ? Sunny

Lynnxz -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 4:03:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear quote: ORIGINAL: Lynnxz The pornbots I suppose? The callgirls are certainly real, even if they get some folks moral panties in a bunch. Also, I tend to raise an eyebrow at emails from Africa or Egypt. [:D] Ermmm Egypt is situated to the Northern Portion of the African Continent…. Besides emails from Africa (usually Ghana, Egypt and Morocco), I also get emails from the USA, UK and Europe. With the latter two confusing Australia with Australia. Just goes to show that some people only read the first few letters in each word and guess what the word is and then never read the profile in full…… Ye Gods and little fishes how I with it was legal to mount a genuine slave raid and scoop up all these dunder heads. Select what I want for my home, then separate those who have top market quality and send the rest to the upper reaches of the Amazon into either slave labour or prostitution in the mining camps.. Oops, heh, I knew that I swear. >.> Meh, blame the Vicodins perhaps? And great idea on the slave trade. eyeroll

hellstorm -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 6:42:50 PM)
Well from my experiences lately, it has absolutely nothing to do with compatiblity. When someone is begging to relocate within 15 minutes of talking to me that definitely raises a red flag. So of course I then have to ask if they are financially able to relocate and of course they need me to send them money. Crazy, just crazy I tell ya! And then there are the ones that are 32 and have never worked a day in their life, who actually goes through life with out ever working unless their married or have kids? The ones I really enjoy say there from oh lets say Provo, Utah, but when you refer to the city they say their from thay say no I'm in the UK, could you what? Send money! I have spoken with so many "slaves" lately that their masters have died that I almost have to sleep with one eye open. I guess for me if I can ask a few crucial questions right up front, I save myself a lot of time in the long run.

littlewonder -> RE: Why you call a sub/slave a fake ? (12/12/2008 7:35:49 PM)
They do it because they're bitter, jaded and angry people with nothing else to say. It's the best they can come up with.

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