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Lordandmaster -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 9:29:53 AM)

They do shit like this all the time in order to appear "provocative," but by now it's so old-hat that most people aren't even rattled.  If they had any balls at all, they'd show a nude mother of Mohammed.




Raechard -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 9:48:00 AM)

They don't know what she looks like and no one else would either IMOSHO.




Roselaure -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 10:33:03 AM)

A few years ago Leonard Nimoy published a book of photos representing the Shekhina, which in Jewish beliefe is the feminine indwelling spirit of God.  The woman is wearing religious garb, a Tallit and Tefillin, and is clearly nude beneath.  There was some pretty vocal disapproval of it,  I thought it was beautiful. 
http://www.leonardnimoyphotography.com/




GreedyTop -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 11:03:31 AM)

wow.. he's got some talent, doesnt he?




servantheart -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 11:23:41 AM)

~FR~
 
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  Catholics not only in Mexico are visibly angered by this controversy. It is disturbing, and shows the magazine's lack of respect for the faith and the faithful. What's more appalling is the timing. The issue comes as millions of Mexicans celebrate the feast day of the Our Lady of Guadalupe, the country's patron saint.


IMO, this is the crux of it all.  Regardless of whether "outside" people agree or disagree with Catholicism/Christianity, this is the belief of these people and what is on that front cover shows a complete lack of respect for those beliefs.  It sucks when money is more important that showing respect for others. 




dawntreader -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 12:08:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

hawt pic!!!


my thoughts exactly[:)]




Raechard -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 12:13:17 PM)

My thoughts were she is either Mary or a member of the KKK unmasked. You'd only know it was Mary if someone told you.




dawntreader -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 12:18:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Roselaure

A few years ago Leonard Nimoy published a book of photos representing the Shekhina, which in Jewish beliefe is the feminine indwelling spirit of God.  The woman is wearing religious garb, a Tallit and Tefillin, and is clearly nude beneath.  There was some pretty vocal disapproval of it,  I thought it was beautiful. 
http://www.leonardnimoyphotography.com/


i thought the series beautiful!
 
i also loved the The Black and White Project




calamitysandra -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 1:21:51 PM)

Beautiful picture.




Roselaure -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 2:39:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantheart

~FR~
 
quote:

  Catholics not only in Mexico are visibly angered by this controversy. It is disturbing, and shows the magazine's lack of respect for the faith and the faithful. What's more appalling is the timing. The issue comes as millions of Mexicans celebrate the feast day of the Our Lady of Guadalupe, the country's patron saint.


IMO, this is the crux of it all.  Regardless of whether "outside" people agree or disagree with Catholicism/Christianity, this is the belief of these people and what is on that front cover shows a complete lack of respect for those beliefs.  It sucks when money is more important that showing respect for others. 


They have every right to their beliefs, but they don't have the right not to be offended.




Roselaure -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 2:41:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

wow.. he's got some talent, doesnt he?


He ain't just Mr. Spock!  I also liked  the series of fat women.  He clearly finds all kinds of women beautiful.




kittinSol -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 2:47:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: came4U
Personally, it crosses a line. It is not only that they depict the Holy Mother as 'beautiful', it is the beauty of her in body, not spirit  ideology, but that it is blasphamy to associate her at all in the business of (soft) pornography in general. 


Edited to say: it's hawt [8|] .




BbwCanaDomme -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 2:47:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Christians are an easy target these days. Lets see the same cover making light of a Muslim. They are cowards and you will never see it happen..


First of, the average Christian isn't going to be as offended as a catholic, because Christianity generally doesn't focus on Mary as being as important of a figure  (while attending Catholic school, many an evangelical lectured me about how the catholics worship Mary and that's not what god wanted blah blah). Also, as far as I know there's not much of an islamic population in Mexico. It's mostly catholics. Putting muslim imagery on the cover of Mexican playboy would sell less, and generate less controversy.




winterlight -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 2:58:58 PM)

agrees with Cagey...




Arpig -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 2:59:45 PM)

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who cares?

couldn't say it any better if I tried




BKSir -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 3:05:12 PM)

All I can really say is, "Who know Nimoy was such an amazing photographer!?" O.O




Usako -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 3:49:31 PM)

What do I think? I thinks she's hot and I wish I had a copy of that issue. I bet it'll become a collector's item pretty fast. 




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 4:03:57 PM)

It is just good marketing.  Controversy, even tired over-done controversy moves print.  It worked for the Harry Potter books and I'm sure it will sell Playboys.

You'd think the iconic vessel for all creation would be accepted as the fertile, feminine creature she is, instead of cannonized into an untouchable and untouched virgin.  To me, THAT is sacriledge.




Lordandmaster -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 5:26:03 PM)

More than nude beneath:

http://www.leonardnimoyphotography.com/images/2/shekhina/Zz87-18.JPG

quote:

ORIGINAL: Roselaure

A few years ago Leonard Nimoy published a book of photos representing the Shekhina, which in Jewish beliefe is the feminine indwelling spirit of God.  The woman is wearing religious garb, a Tallit and Tefillin, and is clearly nude beneath.  There was some pretty vocal disapproval of it,  I thought it was beautiful. 
http://www.leonardnimoyphotography.com/




kittinSol -> RE: Playboy's nude Virgin Mary (12/14/2008 5:54:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance
You'd think the iconic vessel for all creation would be accepted as the fertile, feminine creature she is, instead of cannonized into an untouchable and untouched virgin.  To me, THAT is sacriledge.


Bravo.





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