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gaysadisbandung -> Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 3:15:43 AM)

1. Which ways of torturing nipple that will result a greater pain? Needle it? Bite it? Hot wax it? Or clothespinned it for hours? And why?
2. Have you ever felt your cock is stroked until you cum three times in a row? So your master/mistress didn't stop stroking when you've cum for the first and second times. How was it feel?
3. When you're forced not to erect by using device, what should we do to make you erect so you'll feel pain when your cock erect in a limited space?

It would be great if I get the answers from male slaves all over the world. Thanks before!




peppermint -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 6:25:16 AM)

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Or clothespinned it for hours?


This would likely result in permanent nerve damage and no more feeling.  Which means no more nipple play because your needles, hot wax, and biting wouldn't be felt at all. 

Other than that, your post reads like the  fantasy of someone who hasn't a clue of what being a slave really is. 




SirMIkeSD -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 8:38:01 AM)

You are 19 according to your profile. Let's assume you are not a wanker. You do not have the knowledge that is needed to understand what is safe and what is not. I suggest you take your time and do some research on this forum (that means using the search function) there is all type of advise and reasons behind it on here and elsewhere. Find yourself a mentor to assist you or give yourself some time because you are not ready.

Mike




IvyMorgan -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 9:08:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SirMIkeSD

You are 19 according to your profile. Let's assume you are not a wanker. You do not have the knowledge that is needed to understand what is safe and what is not.
How do you know this, from one post?

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I suggest you take your time and do some research on this forum (that means using the search function) there is all type of advise and reasons behind it on here and elsewhere.
Perhaps this was the point of his asking the question?

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Find yourself a mentor to assist you or give yourself some time because you are not ready.

Mike
Again, that's an assumption. 




IvyMorgan -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 9:12:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: gaysadisbandung

1. Which ways of torturing nipple that will result a greater pain? Needle it? Bite it? Hot wax it? Or clothespinned it for hours? And why?

Which causes the most pain and discomfort depends very much on the bottom in question.  For me, hot wax isn't really painful, biting doesn't hurt in the traditional sense, the one and only time someone stuck me with a needle I was far to stressed to notice it, whilst clothespins do hurt.

The best thing would be to ask your partner, try things out slowly, and generally get to figuring out how each of you tick and click together.

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2. Have you ever felt your cock is stroked until you cum three times in a row? So your master/mistress didn't stop stroking when you've cum for the first and second times. How was it feel?
3. When you're forced not to erect by using device, what should we do to make you erect so you'll feel pain when your cock erect in a limited space?

It would be great if I get the answers from male slaves all over the world. Thanks before!
I'm female, so, there's really not much I can do to answer your second two questions.




SirMIkeSD -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 9:15:36 AM)

IvyMorgan,

I knew that because I took the time to look at his profile and at 19 he is not ready.

Mike




IvyMorgan -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 1:09:13 PM)

Is that because in general people aren't ready at 19, or because this one specific person at 19 is not ready?




SirMIkeSD -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 1:23:20 PM)

IvyMorgan,

In my 25 or so years, I have never meet anyone ready to be a Dom at 19. There is too much to learn about yourself including how to control your own actions, let alone D/s and S/M. Yes you can be on the road but you are not ready. I have meet one or two in the 20's that are there but they have been rare exceptions and this person based upon his questions does not have a clue as to what is safe SM and will not cause medical problems. So instead of asking for advice on how to do it safely he wants to 'hear' about how it feels. First he sounds like a wanker. Second should a Dom be concerned about how to do it correctly, or how it feels to subs all over the world instead of learning what he does not know.

Mike




IvyMorgan -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 1:35:19 PM)

Mike,

I'd say a mix of both knowing how to do it and knowing what it feels like.  Part of it is technical knowledge and part of it is getting your head around what a sub/bottom gets out of all this.

To me, he sounds like someone who has English as a second language and isn't entirely fluent when it comes to syntax and idiom.

I have no idea when someone is "ready" to be in a D/s relationship, but, I think you can be happily kinky from the get go, and this idea that it's all about power exchange, D/s and "being a Dom" etc... whatever happened to common or garden kinky fun?  Yes, do it safely, but, that's why you start slow, no?

Ivy




SirMIkeSD -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 1:52:29 PM)

There is kink and there is D/s you can have one without the other. His profile says he is a Dom there are responsibilities that come with that, if you are going to state it then you need to be ready he it not. If he just wanted to be a kinda kinky top then he should not have stated he was a Dom. There seems to be a good deal of confusion in the younger people here where I am that being a Dom top is just about being the 'active' one in gay male sex and being a sub is about sucking cock and getting fucked when someone says been over or get on your knees, you are not a gay male so may not be aware of this trend but I do hear it is creeping into the str8 world. As he did not ask about any of those or about being a SM top as you suggested I have to go with what his profile states. As to English not being his first language, as a Dom he should have said that up front and stated he was not sure how to ask what he wanted to ask etc yes that would be part of taking responsibility for yourself that a Dom must take. He did not.

Mike





peppermint -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 2:38:56 PM)

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirMIkeSD

You are 19 according to your profile. Let's assume you are not a wanker. You do not have the knowledge that is needed to understand what is safe and what is not.

How do you know this, from one post?


The OP does not understand what happens when circulation is stopped for more than a short period of time.  I did not read the OP's profile and felt the same as SirMikeSD.  If the OP doesn't understand simple safety procedures of a clothes pin, I would question what he knows about less benign toys such as a Tens unit, violet want, or floggers.  SirMikeSD's advice was right on.....read and reseach and learn.  The same advice would apply for someone who is 60 years old and has no clue to what damage a clothes pin could do. 




IvyMorgan -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 2:59:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SirMIkeSD

There is kink and there is D/s you can have one without the other. His profile says he is a Dom there are responsibilities that come with that, if you are going to state it then you need to be ready he it not. If he just wanted to be a kinda kinky top then he should not have stated he was a Dom. There seems to be a good deal of confusion in the younger people here where I am that being a Dom top is just about being the 'active' one in gay male sex and being a sub is about sucking cock and getting fucked when someone says been over or get on your knees, you are not a gay male so may not be aware of this trend but I do hear it is creeping into the str8 world. As he did not ask about any of those or about being a SM top as you suggested I have to go with what his profile states. As to English not being his first language, as a Dom he should have said that up front and stated he was not sure how to ask what he wanted to ask etc yes that would be part of taking responsibility for yourself that a Dom must take. He did not.

Mike


It sounds like there could be some language confusion, givin his profile and nick says he's from Bandung... English as a second language isn't that much of a guess.

I do agree, there is a difference between a Dom/Sub and a Top/Bottom but at the same time, there are a lot of people, not just those new to the scene, who use "Dom" to mean both Dominant and Top.  Whilst this linguistic unhelpfulness isn't really very useful because the terms do apply to different things, a lot of people do it, and, those who are starting out are more likely to, I guess, and those using translators are probably even more likely to.

He is new, yes, and does need guidance, which is why he is posting here asking questions.  Perhaps instead of people saying "you're not ready to be a Dom" there were people saying things that would help him learn how to do things more safely.

Just my thoughts,

Ivy




SirMIkeSD -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 4:09:16 PM)

IvyMorgan,

No one is stopping you from stepping up and providing the help you think he needs. Go for it! Keep in mind he did not ask for help nor may be want it.

Mike




chamberqueen -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/14/2008 4:11:37 PM)

The generally accepted rule for nipple clips is 20 minutes.  You want to stay SAFE.  You don't want to risk lasting damage.




IvyMorgan -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/15/2008 3:18:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SirMIkeSD

IvyMorgan,

No one is stopping you from stepping up and providing the help you think he needs. Go for it! Keep in mind he did not ask for help nor may be want it.

Mike

I answered his question as best I could, but, not being male, there's a limit to my ability to know what a multiple orgasm for a man feels like.  He asked for answers to his questions... not being male, I really couldn't answer them all.




windchymes -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/15/2008 4:17:07 PM)

I think the most excruciating nipple pain of all is REMOVING that clothespin or clamp that has been attached for 20 minutes.  [:o]




Despot -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/21/2008 8:03:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: gaysadisbandung

? Or clothespinned it for hours?


I would never leave clothespins on for hours.... not very safe. However, if yanked off after about 20 minutes does leave a lasting impression.




beargonewild -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/21/2008 9:14:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: gaysadisbandung

1. Which ways of torturing nipple that will result a greater pain? Needle it? Bite it? Hot wax it? Or clothespinned it for hours? And why?
2. Have you ever felt your cock is stroked until you cum three times in a row? So your master/mistress didn't stop stroking when you've cum for the first and second times. How was it feel?
3. When you're forced not to erect by using device, what should we do to make you erect so you'll feel pain when your cock erect in a limited space?

It would be great if I get the answers from male slaves all over the world. Thanks before!


Each method in it's own can cause great pain when used on another's nipples. As to the dripping wax, I have no idea since that is something which will never be tried on me.
Clothespins can be quite painful especially when they are applied just to the nips. It's very important not to compress the nipples for great lengths of time due to an increase chance of causing permanent nerve damage. I've been told approx 20 mins max is enough.





OttersSwim -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/21/2008 12:42:46 PM)

Is this for a school report or something?   [;)]




sandmva -> RE: Questions for male slave (12/23/2008 4:23:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gaysadisbandung

1. Which ways of torturing nipple that will result a greater pain? Needle it? Bite it? Hot wax it? Or clothespinned it for hours? And why?
2. Have you ever felt your cock is stroked until you cum three times in a row? So your master/mistress didn't stop stroking when you've cum for the first and second times. How was it feel?
3. When you're forced not to erect by using device, what should we do to make you erect so you'll feel pain when your cock erect in a limited space?

It would be great if I get the answers from male slaves all over the world. Thanks before!

I'm not here to comment on whether you think you're ready/experienced/aged enough to be a Dom, but I'll try to answer some of your questions. A lot of this is contextual, but I'll give it a go:

1. The sensation of pain is as much psychological as it is physical. It depends on the context and the application, in my opinion. The fact that these are entirely different sensations (burning, pressure, pinching) makes it nearly impossible to answer this question without exploring the psychology of the recipient. Even the sensitivity of the nipples can vary widely from person to person. I'm not into needle play, but if you're trying to play safe, make sure you're using sterile needles, as you would buy at a drug store, versus something you find lying around in a sewing kit. Use the cheap candles you would find in a Wal-mart (candles using honeycomb, soy, etc. tend to get MUCH hotter than the synthetics and can really, really burn). Finally, clothespins can be clipped onto the edge of a desk or candle to soften the spring. This could extend the wearing time, but not by much. http://www.gayhealth.com has a good Q&A conducted by doctors, and I would encourage you to check it out. There you will find much more reliable health-related information than what you would find on a forum. I'm sure they won't cover everything, but it's a start. I'm lucky to have a health professional in-house, but you'll have to do your own research.
2. Intense. And it doesn't always work. There's a period after the male orgasm called the absolute refractory period, during which orgasm is nearly impossible, and it usually averages five minutes. To some, continued stroking feels painful, to others it feels like tickling. Again, somewhat contextual and subjective.
3. Sounds like you're talking about a chastity device. It's really not that painful unless the dick is put in an awkward position (and I've certainly seen some devices out there that look like they would cause hemorrhaging in the soft tissues of the penis). How to make him erect? Simple: turn him on.

Anyway, these are just my ruminations. Feel free to take them with a grain of salt, and if you really want to play it safe, consult a health practitioner. In America, they are bound by client confidentiality, so you can speak freely. Of course, you may not want to play it safe, and while that certainly runs counter to the institutionalized anthem of the BDSM community, I'd be naive to think that all seek safe play. I've seen plenty of people on CM here begging for broken bones, blood, and scat, all of which harbor dangers, both visible and unseen.

Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to be abused


~S.




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